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  • El Nino
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 05-03-12
    • 18426

    #316
    What is this, backyard baseball??? Ghostie on 2nd! Fukk that noise.
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    • Cross
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 04-15-11
      • 5777

      #317
      Why would they make a rule change like that, ridiculous.
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      • EmpireMaker
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 06-18-09
        • 15579

        #318
        An unanticipated series of factors led starter Jason Hammel to sign with the Royals, as Rustin Dodd of the Kansas City Star writes. That included not only the fact that Hammel surprisingly reached and then remained on the open market, but also the untimely death of young Royals righty Yordano Ventura. First and foremost a human tragedy, Ventura’s passing also left the organization in need of another starter for the coming season — an uncomfortable situation which Hammel thoughtfully acknowledged in his introductory remarks. “I feel like I need to express my condolences to, first of all, Royals Nation and the Ventura family,” he said. “Just because, I truly feel that if that unfortunate passing doesn’t happen, you guys aren’t talking to me.”
        Here are a few more notes on the free-agent market…
        • Coco Crisp doesn’t have a job for the 2017 season yet, but he tells John Hickey of the San Jose Mercury News that he isn’t ready to retire and hopes to latch on with a club. “Physically, I’m good,” says Crisp. “There’s nothing that would keep my from playing. My neck feels better, my body feels good.” Crisp’s agent, Steve Comte, tells Hickey that he has spoken to multiple clubs and continues to do so in hopes of securing a new contract for the 37-year-old outfielder. Crisp hit .231/.302/.397 with 13 home runs (plus two in the playoffs) last season and could conceivably help a club as a fourth outfielder and veteran influence. He has struggled against lefties in recent years but has logged a respectable .236/.324/.368 slash against righties (96 wRC+).
        • The Yankees discussed a potential Chris Carter trade with the Brewers before the slugger was non-tendered by Milwaukee, according to ESPN’s Buster Olney. Had that deal come to fruition, the Yankees would likely have been on the hook for an arbitration salary near $8MM for Carter, who instead agreed to a one-year, $3.5MM free-agent deal with the Yanks earlier this week. Certainly, that could’ve had a trickle-down effect on the Yankees’ offseason, as those talks would’ve occurred prior to the Yankees’ signing of Matt Holliday to a one-year deal. Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times spoke to Carter’s agent, Dave Stewart, who wouldn’t directly comment on how the Rays’ bid compared that of the Yankees (Twitter link), though Stewart did note that Carter “felt the opportunity was the same.”
        • Topkin also tweets that the Rays are among the teams keeping tabs on free-agent outfielder Sam Fuld. The 35-year-old Fuld missed the 2016 season due to shoulder surgery and had a poor year at the plate in 2015 with the A’s, but he provided Oakland with solid defense and baserunning that season. Fuld can almost certainly be had on a minor league deal and would give Tampa Bay some depth behind current starters Colby Rasmus, Kevin Kiermaier and Steven Souza. Corey Dickerson figures to see some time in the outfield as well, and non-roster invitee could make the Rays’ roster as a right-handed-hitting complement to Rasmus. Utilityman Nick Franklin, too, could see some time in the outfield. None of those alternatives can play center field, though, so adding Fuld would give the Rays a veteran fourth outfielder while Mallex Smith gets some more work at Triple-A.
        • The Nationals “checked in on” first baseman/outfielder Brandon Moss before he signed with the Royals, reports Chelsea Janes of the Washington Post. Moss would at least have represented a quality bench piece for the Nationals, whose depth is an issue, as FanGraphs’ Dave Cameron wrote last week. The lefty swinging Moss could theoretically have shared time (and provided insurance) for right-handed-hitting first baseman Ryan Zimmerman and left fielder Jayson Werth — a possibility that led MLBTR to guess that Moss would land in D.C. at the outset of the offseason.
        • Thirteen teams attended the workout hosted by free agent lefty Jon Niese earlier today, reports ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick (Twitter link). The 30-year-old Niese, hoping to demonstrate his health for interested parties, threw a 40-pitch bullpen session for the scouts in attendance. Niese struggled through the worst season of his career in 2016 but was a solid fourth/fifth starter for the Mets for several years prior to the down season. He underwent arthroscopic knee surgery to repair a torn meniscus late in the year.
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        • Otters27
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 07-14-07
          • 30756

          #319
          Runner on 2nd rule change will never make it to the majors. I'd hate to be a pitcher going into a runner on second every time there is extra innings.
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          • JAKEPEAVY21
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 03-11-11
            • 29268

            #320
            Originally posted by Cross
            Why would they make a rule change like that, ridiculous.
            absolute joke, I can't see it happening
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            • Chi_archie
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-22-08
              • 63167

              #321
              Originally posted by BigSpoon
              Brian Wilson is planning a comeback as a knuckleballer. http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...-knuckleballer

              oh please someone give him a chance
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              • BigSpoon
                SBR MVP
                • 11-04-10
                • 4113

                #322
                I'd rather have ties than that stupid extra innings rule.
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                • koz-man
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 11-21-08
                  • 7102

                  #323
                  Win total for defending champ Cubs set at 95.5; totals for all 30 teams released

                  The defending World Series champion Chicago Cubs have been projected for the most victories in 2017 as the first sportsbook posted season win totals for Major League Baseball teams.

                  For the 11th straight year, the Atlantis Casino in Reno, Nevada, is the first sportsbook with MLB season win totals, and it set the Cubs' number at 95.5 for betting that began Friday morning.

                  Cubs 95.5
                  Indians 92.5
                  Dodgers 91.5
                  Nationals 90.5
                  Red Sox 90.5
                  Mets 89.5
                  Astros 87.5
                  Cardinals 87.5
                  Giants 87.5
                  Blue Jays 86.5
                  Rangers 86.5
                  Mariners 85.5
                  Pirates 85.5
                  Tigers 85.5
                  Orioles 84.5
                  Yankees 83.5
                  Royals 80.5
                  Rockies 79.5
                  Diamondbacks 78.5
                  Marlins 77.5
                  Angels 76.5
                  Rays 75.5
                  Reds 73.5
                  White Sox 73.5
                  Brewers 72.5
                  Phillies 72.5
                  Braves 71.5
                  Twins 70.5
                  Athletics 66.5
                  Padres 64.5
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                  • Andy117
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 02-07-10
                    • 9511

                    #324
                    Originally posted by koz-man
                    Win total for defending champ Cubs set at 95.5; totals for all 30 teams released


                    The defending World Series champion Chicago Cubs have been projected for the most victories in 2017 as the first sportsbook posted season win totals for Major League Baseball teams.

                    For the 11th straight year, the Atlantis Casino in Reno, Nevada, is the first sportsbook with MLB season win totals, and it set the Cubs' number at 95.5 for betting that began Friday morning.

                    Cubs 95.5
                    Indians 92.5
                    Dodgers 91.5
                    Nationals 90.5
                    Red Sox 90.5
                    Mets 89.5
                    Astros 87.5
                    Cardinals 87.5
                    Giants 87.5
                    Blue Jays 86.5
                    Rangers 86.5
                    Mariners 85.5
                    Pirates 85.5
                    Tigers 85.5
                    Orioles 84.5
                    Yankees 83.5
                    Royals 80.5
                    Rockies 79.5
                    Diamondbacks 78.5
                    Marlins 77.5
                    Angels 76.5
                    Rays 75.5
                    Reds 73.5
                    White Sox 73.5
                    Brewers 72.5
                    Phillies 72.5
                    Braves 71.5
                    Twins 70.5
                    Athletics 66.5
                    Padres 64.5
                    I like the Red Sox and Mets over & the Marlins under.
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                    • yisman
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 09-01-08
                      • 75682

                      #325
                      Originally posted by BigSpoon
                      I'd rather have ties than that stupid extra innings rule.
                      EXACTLY

                      feel the same way about hockey and shootouts
                      [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                      [/quote]

                      [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                      • Cross
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 04-15-11
                        • 5777

                        #326
                        I'll still take the over on cubs wins, starting a dynasty.
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                        • EmpireMaker
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 06-18-09
                          • 15579

                          #327
                          The Orioles have acquired right-hander Gabriel Ynoa from the Mets in exchange for cash and designated catcher Francisco Pena for assignment to clear a spot on the 40-man roster, per a team announcement. The move opens a spot on the Mets’ 40-man roster, which the team still needed to do in order to make the re-signing of Fernando Salas official.
                          The 23-year-old Ynoa made his MLB debut with the Mets this past season, tossing 18 1/3 innings with a 6.38 ERA. His 17-to-7 K/BB ratio, 49.2 percent ground-ball rate and average fastball velocity of 93.5 mph were all more encouraging numbers than the unsightly ERA in that small sample. In 154 1/3 innings at the Triple-A level this past season, Ynoa posted a 3.97 ERA with 4.5 K/9, 2.3 BB/9 and a 48.8 percent grounder rate.
                          Ynoa ranked among the Mets’ top 20 prospects each year from 2012-15, with BA’s most recent report calling him a “control artist” and a potential fourth starter if he can make improvements to his secondary offerings. Also noted, though, was that while Ynoa has a knack for throwing strikes, he doesn’t hit his spot within the zone often enough, so honing his command could also be an area of focus moving forward.
                          “Our scouts feel he can develop into a Major League starting pitcher by developing a consistent breaking pitch,” said Orioles GM Dan Duquette of the newly acquired Ynoa. “We look forward to his contributions to the Orioles this season and beyond.”
                          Ynoa will give the Orioles some much-needed rotation depth beyond the quintet of Chris Tillman, Kevin Gausman, Dylan Bundy, Wade Miley and Ubaldo Jimenez. He has a minor league option remaining, which was likely a key factor for the Orioles, as there doesn’t look to be an immediate spot in the rotation for Ynoa, barring a spring injury to one of the previously listed rotation members. The 154 innings that Ynoa threw at Triple-A last season represent his only experience at that level, so it seems likely that he’ll head to Norfolk to open the season for further development. Should things pan out for Ynoa, he’ll be under club control through the 2022 season in Baltimore.
                          Pena, 27, appeared in 14 games and hit .200/.238/.275 across 43 plate appearances for the Orioles last season. He was expected to compete with Caleb Joseph for the backup catcher role this spring and may still do so if he clears waivers. The defensive-minded backstop was out of minor league options, which undoubtedly played a role in the Orioles’ decision to designate him. In parts of four Triple-A seasons (1188 plate appearances), Pena has displayed good power but struggled to get on base, as evidenced by his .248/.294/.453 batting line. He’s thrown out 32 percent base base thieves in his minor league career and routinely draws considerably above-average framing grades from Baseball Prospectus.
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                          • Otters27
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 07-14-07
                            • 30756

                            #328
                            Like the Rockies over 79.5
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                            • El Nino
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 05-03-12
                              • 18426

                              #329
                              Dbacks under looks good for those that wish to tie up money for 9 months.
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                              • Chi_archie
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-22-08
                                • 63167

                                #330
                                players hate the long extra inning games I guess
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                                • JAKEPEAVY21
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 03-11-11
                                  • 29268

                                  #331
                                  Originally posted by Cross
                                  I'll still take the over on cubs wins, starting a dynasty.
                                  gotta agree with that
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                                  • BigSpoon
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-04-10
                                    • 4113

                                    #332
                                    Originally posted by El Nino
                                    Dbacks under looks good for those that wish to tie up money for 9 months.
                                    Yeah, the 78.5 total is surprisingly high.
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                                    • mr. leisure
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 01-29-08
                                      • 17507

                                      #333
                                      Originally posted by El Nino
                                      Dbacks under looks good for those that wish to tie up money for 9 months.
                                      Like that 1 too
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                                      • koz-man
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 11-21-08
                                        • 7102

                                        #334
                                        Inside MLB's potential new strike zone


                                        ESPN’s Jayson Stark reported Monday that MLB has submitted a formal proposal to the players’ union to raise the strike zone -- particularly, the bottom of the strike zone, by an estimated 2 inches.

                                        Let’s take a look at what’s behind the potential change, which players and teams could be most affected, and what it could mean for baseball going forward.

                                        The growing strike zone
                                        It’s no surprise MLB is looking to raise the bottom of the strike zone. The MLB strikeout record has been broken for nine consecutive seasons, and the growth in the zone –- particularly the bottom of the zone -- is a big reason why.

                                        Previous research by Jon Roegele of The Hardball Times has shown that the bottom of the strike zone began to expand in 2011. The frequency of pitches in that area has remained consistent across the league since then, but the results have shifted dramatically (see the graph below).

                                        In 2011, 24 percent of taken pitches in the bottom 2 inches of the strike zone were called strikes; that number has grown to 50 percent in each of the past two seasons
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                                        • Andy117
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 02-07-10
                                          • 9511

                                          #335
                                          Originally posted by koz-man
                                          Inside MLB's potential new strike zone


                                          ESPN’s Jayson Stark reported Monday that MLB has submitted a formal proposal to the players’ union to raise the strike zone -- particularly, the bottom of the strike zone, by an estimated 2 inches.

                                          Let’s take a look at what’s behind the potential change, which players and teams could be most affected, and what it could mean for baseball going forward.

                                          The growing strike zone
                                          It’s no surprise MLB is looking to raise the bottom of the strike zone. The MLB strikeout record has been broken for nine consecutive seasons, and the growth in the zone –- particularly the bottom of the zone -- is a big reason why.

                                          Previous research by Jon Roegele of The Hardball Times has shown that the bottom of the strike zone began to expand in 2011. The frequency of pitches in that area has remained consistent across the league since then, but the results have shifted dramatically (see the graph below).

                                          In 2011, 24 percent of taken pitches in the bottom 2 inches of the strike zone were called strikes; that number has grown to 50 percent in each of the past two seasons
                                          Messing with the strikezone doesn't mean a damn thing if they keep the same crew of umpires. Their inconsistency makes the change irrelevant.
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                                          • yisman
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 09-01-08
                                            • 75682

                                            #336
                                            not much accountability for the umps


                                            free rein to blow calls
                                            [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                            [/quote]

                                            [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                            • EmpireMaker
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 06-18-09
                                              • 15579

                                              #337
                                              The strike zone is very subjective and it varies from ump to ump and sometimes from day to day with the same ump.
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                                              • El Nino
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 05-03-12
                                                • 18426

                                                #338
                                                The players union will submit their proposal, the umpires union will fight it, MLB can do what they want...the umps will too. Ain't nothing changing.
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                                                • JAKEPEAVY21
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 03-11-11
                                                  • 29268

                                                  #339
                                                  according to sources, Brandon Phillips traded to Braves
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                                                  • koz-man
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 11-21-08
                                                    • 7102

                                                    #340
                                                    Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                    according to sources, Brandon Phillips traded to Braves
                                                    Yep..And the Reds got pretty much nothing in return. They will not release the 2 players names until they pass a physical.
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                                                    • koz-man
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 11-21-08
                                                      • 7102

                                                      #341
                                                      Jim Bowden ESPN Senior Writer

                                                      The Atlanta Braves have acquired second baseman Brandon Phillips from the Cincinnati Reds. For the Reds this was about giving him a graceful exit. They had no leverage so they didn't ask for much of anything in return.

                                                      The Braves became a good fit for Phillips and the Reds didn't want to stand in his way, although they could have. This trade was vastly preferable to a release after going through what would have been an awkward spring since Reds are committed to going with Jose Peraza and Dilson Herrera at second.

                                                      This trade is not a win for the Reds in terms of return which is close to nothing according to sources from both teams. Just avoiding tough times and getting on with with Reds rebuilding good enough reasons for them to make the trade.

                                                      For the Braves they get a gold glove second baseman who can still play and a solid place holder until Braves top prospect Ozzie Albies is ready in 2018.

                                                      The reason we are not releasing names of players going to Cincinnati is this deal has the final hurdle of a physical on Phillips and it's not a slam dunk at this point. Would not be fair to name the 2 other players if the physical doesn't pass and the trade falls through.
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                                                      • Otters27
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 07-14-07
                                                        • 30756

                                                        #342
                                                        Cubs should win 100 games. This year the pressure is off so they can play loose.
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                                                        • mr. leisure
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 01-29-08
                                                          • 17507

                                                          #343
                                                          Originally posted by koz-man
                                                          Jim Bowden ESPN Senior Writer

                                                          The Atlanta Braves have acquired second baseman Brandon Phillips from the Cincinnati Reds. For the Reds this was about giving him a graceful exit. They had no leverage so they didn't ask for much of anything in return.

                                                          The Braves became a good fit for Phillips and the Reds didn't want to stand in his way, although they could have. This trade was vastly preferable to a release after going through what would have been an awkward spring since Reds are committed to going with Jose Peraza and Dilson Herrera at second.

                                                          This trade is not a win for the Reds in terms of return which is close to nothing according to sources from both teams. Just avoiding tough times and getting on with with Reds rebuilding good enough reasons for them to make the trade.

                                                          For the Braves they get a gold glove second baseman who can still play and a solid place holder until Braves top prospect Ozzie Albies is ready in 2018.

                                                          The reason we are not releasing names of players going to Cincinnati is this deal has the final hurdle of a physical on Phillips and it's not a slam dunk at this point. Would not be fair to name the 2 other players if the physical doesn't pass and the trade falls through.

                                                          Yep , the Reds got pretty much nothing .
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                                                          • BigSpoon
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 11-04-10
                                                            • 4113

                                                            #344
                                                            Joey Votto content to waste away the rest of his career with the Reds.
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                                                            • Chi_archie
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-22-08
                                                              • 63167

                                                              #345
                                                              Not q big Phillis fan

                                                              bye
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                                                              • yisman
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 09-01-08
                                                                • 75682

                                                                #346
                                                                Originally posted by mr. leisure
                                                                Yep , the Reds got pretty much nothing .
                                                                Phillips doesn't really have any value.
                                                                [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                                [/quote]

                                                                [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                                • EmpireMaker
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 06-18-09
                                                                  • 15579

                                                                  #347
                                                                  • There weren’t many whispers about Brandon Phillips on the rumor mill this offseason, and according to C. Trent Rosencrans of the Cincinnati Enquirer (via Twitter), “the Braves were the only team that had any interest in Phillips whatsoever.” Given this limited market and the added complication of Phillips’ no-trade protection, it perhaps isn’t surprising that the Reds didn’t get much of a return in finally dealing Phillips to Atlanta.
                                                                  • The biggest benefit for the Reds is that Jose Peraza and Dilson Herrera now have a clearer path towards regular playing time. Reds GM Dick Williams told Rosencrans (Twitter link) and other reporters that the two young infielders and veteran shortstop Zack Cozart will rotate the middle infield jobs during Spring Training. Cozart has himself been the subject of trade speculation, though those rumors have dried up since the Mariners (his most ardent suitor) addressed their shortstop need by acquiring Jean Segura from the Diamondbacks.
                                                                  • Extension talks between Chris Tillman and the Orioles have been “nothing serious” thus far, MASNsports.com’s Roch Kubatko reports. The two sides began preliminary talks back in December, though as of mid-January, Tillman said he hadn’t heard any details on negotiations from his agents. Kubatko wouldn’t be surprised if more substantial talks take place during Spring Training, as Tillman can become a free agent after the 2017 season.
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                                                                  • Otters27
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 07-14-07
                                                                    • 30756

                                                                    #348
                                                                    OK I get it. Reds wanted Herera and Peraza to get more real game reps in to develop.
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                                                                    • Chi_archie
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 07-22-08
                                                                      • 63167

                                                                      #349
                                                                      lets get some pitchers and catchers reporting!!!!

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                                                                      • JAKEPEAVY21
                                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                        • 03-11-11
                                                                        • 29268

                                                                        #350
                                                                        Originally posted by BigSpoon
                                                                        Joey Votto content to waste away the rest of his career with the Reds.
                                                                        he has more than 200 million reasons to be content
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