Andrew McCutchen Could be Member of Washington Nationals by End of Today

**jtoler** · 12-01-16, 12:51 PM

Good, Pittsburgh doesnt seem to treasure him like they should, stupid organization.

**daneblazer** · 12-01-16, 01:26 PM

Guys declining. Good time to sell

**RockBottom** · 12-01-16, 01:53 PM

Joe Sheehan proposed a mccutch for Lucas Giolito trade in July.

**irish1** · 12-01-16, 05:51 PM

great pick up for any team in contention. He had a off year last year and still hit 24HR and drove in 79. I think he is only 31 still plenty left in the tank.

**jjgold** · 12-01-16, 05:55 PM

He is still good

He is better than Harper

**PittsburghPlayer** · 12-01-16, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Guess Pirates are entering rebuilding mode

May as well, for however many years that they can not conquer the Cubs and Cards.

**Mr KLC** · 12-01-16, 06:22 PM

They know that Cubs own the division for the next few years. Timing to contend is not right. Time to break it down, and try again in about 3 years. Good for me. I'll have my pick of what seat I want when I go there in August next year.

**19th Hole** · 12-01-16, 06:43 PM

Now if the Nats can dig up a shut down closer they could be in business.

**Chi_archie** · 12-01-16, 08:34 PM

I feel bad for Cutch

signed a super team friendly extension right before he got MVP good

guy gets paid like a good utility player

now in 2019 when he is A FA again he may not get that big of a contract

**thetrinity** · 12-01-16, 09:04 PM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

I feel bad for Cutch

signed a super team friendly extension right before he got MVP good

guy gets paid like a good utility player

now in 2019 when he is A FA again he may not get that big of a contract

Me too, awful timing all around

**Kermit** · 12-01-16, 09:05 PM

Ever since he cut his hair before the start of the 2015 season, his career went downhill.

**BarkingToad** · 12-02-16, 01:37 AM

Would be nice addition for the Nationals.

**thellama** · 12-02-16, 02:28 AM

As a Mets fan, Im all for this. He's been on the decline the last year and a half. Let him languish in the Nat outfield with the other dinosaurs.

**kingdom** · 12-02-16, 03:26 AM

as a met fan, i wish we got him. 24 hr's? we could use that in our often inept lineup. still not over losing murphy to them. guys a clubhouse leader as well.

**Chi_archie** · 12-02-16, 08:34 AM

guys number ended up being mediocre but they were super lackluster until a big surge in August and September.

as a Pirate fan, it was clear he was a HUGE part of the reason the Pirates didn't compete when they needed him April thru July

too little too late from him last year

**jtoler** · 12-02-16, 10:24 AM

Pirates are just cheap as usual, they never dole out any money, Cutch made the mistake of resigning with them in the first place. Just a crappy organization in a miserable city. He still led the team in homers, he batted .256 so what, do you know how many every day players who batted lower and wasnt half as good many? Its baseball you go through slumps, his talent is solidified, last season he finished 5th in MVP voting, year before that, 3rd, year before that he won it, year before that 3rd. Yea, Pirates are losers, Ill be glad when he's gone it will haunt them for a while.

**Kermit** · 12-02-16, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by jtoler

Pirates are just cheap as usual, they never dole out any money, Cutch made the mistake of resigning with them in the first place. Just a crappy organization in a miserable city. He still led the team in homers, he batted .256 so what, do you know how many every day players who batted lower and wasnt half as good many? Its baseball you go through slumps, his talent is solidified, last season he finished 5th in MVP voting, year before that, 3rd, year before that he won it, year before that 3rd. Yea, Pirates are losers, Ill be glad when he's gone it will haunt them for a while.

One thing that was very noticeable in the past year was that his speed diminished drastically. Only 13 steal attempts while getting caught 7 times.

**jtoler** · 12-02-16, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by Kermit

One thing that was very noticeable in the past year was that his speed diminished drastically. Only 13 steal attempts while getting caught 7 times.

He's had lingering knee issues, he's the 3 hitter, him stealing bases isnt a need anyway.

**irish1** · 12-02-16, 07:07 PM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

I feel bad for Cutch

signed a super team friendly extension right before he got MVP good

guy gets paid like a good utility player

now in 2019 when he is A FA again he may not get that big of a contract

I find it hard to feel sorry for anyone who is making 14 million plus a year for playing baseball and having 4 months vacation. He never should have signed a 6 year deal. In your prime you sign 3 maybe 4 and then become a free agent again. Hey maybe 51.5 million 6 years ago was a super contract. He seems to be a classy guy so I wouldn't say anything negative about him. Good person and good player and his 14 million will be more than the average person will ever see.

2010	23	Pittsburgh Pirates	$422,500	0.123
2011	24	Pittsburgh Pirates	$452,500	1.123
2012	25	Pittsburgh Pirates	$500,000	2.123	contracts
2013	26	Pittsburgh Pirates	$4,500,000	3.123	contracts
2014	27	Pittsburgh Pirates	$7,250,000	4.123	contracts
2015	28	Pittsburgh Pirates	$10,000,000	5.123	contracts
2016	29	Pittsburgh Pirates	$13,000,000	6.123	contracts

2017	30	Pittsburgh Pirates	$14,000,000	7.123
2018	31	Pittsburgh Pirates	*$14,750,000		$14.75M Team Option, $1M Buyout
		Earliest Free Agent: 2018
Career to date (may be incomplete)			$36,125,000	Does no

**Chi_archie** · 12-02-16, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by Kermit

One thing that was very noticeable in the past year was that his speed diminished drastically. Only 13 steal attempts while getting caught 7 times.

And Putrid defense

went from gold glove to worst defensive CF-er

i think its possible he returns to form offensively this year, but I think the speed and D is gone for good

**jtoler** · 12-02-16, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by irish1

I find it hard to feel sorry for anyone who is making 14 million plus a year for playing baseball and having 4 months vacation. He never should have signed a 6 year deal. In your prime you sign 3 maybe 4 and then become a free agent again. Hey maybe 51.5 million 6 years ago was a super contract. He seems to be a classy guy so I wouldn't say anything negative about him. Good person and good player and his 14 million will be more than the average person will ever see.

2010	23	Pittsburgh Pirates	$422,500	0.123
2011	24	Pittsburgh Pirates	$452,500	1.123
2012	25	Pittsburgh Pirates	$500,000	2.123	contracts
2013	26	Pittsburgh Pirates	$4,500,000	3.123	contracts
2014	27	Pittsburgh Pirates	$7,250,000	4.123	contracts
2015	28	Pittsburgh Pirates	$10,000,000	5.123	contracts
2016	29	Pittsburgh Pirates	$13,000,000	6.123	contracts

2017	30	Pittsburgh Pirates	$14,000,000	7.123
2018	31	Pittsburgh Pirates	*$14,750,000		$14.75M Team Option, $1M Buyout
		Earliest Free Agent: 2018
Career to date (may be incomplete)			$36,125,000	Does no

Peanuts.

**Chi_archie** · 12-02-16, 07:36 PM

One of the best team contracts in baseball

and when he signed it, people thought it was Toooooo much!

Lol

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**dg84** · 12-04-16, 01:59 AM

This isn't totally about money, it's just one factor. The Pirates are like about half of MLB, they can only spend so much & have to constantly restock the farm system because they can't afford more than 2 or 3 stars at one time on the roster. They already have Marte and Polanco in the outfield and Austin Meadows is ready to join them in the big leagues. Need to get a veteran starter & starting pitching prospects for him now. He just turned 30 & has two years left on his contract, so it's the best time to get the most for him. If their young pitching takes a step forward & Cole can actually stay healthy, they can compete for one of the wildcards without Mcutchen. I love the guy, but that's how it is in a small market town where football & hockey rule the roost ahead of baseball.

**irish1** · 12-04-16, 11:05 AM

VIEWING:

2020 2019 2018 2017 2016 2015 2014 2013 2012 2011
Team Salary Payroll Team Cash
Roster Breakdown Positional Breakdown

1	Los Angeles Dodgers	40	$216,109,521	$13,928,333	-	$9,090,000	-	$279,107,794
2	New York Yankees	36	$170,986,549	$11,862,800	-	$1,522,500	-	$227,365,376
3	Boston Red Sox	35	$181,483,500	$19,694,500	-	$23,874,428	-	$215,166,336
4	Detroit Tigers	35	$203,835,000	$509,500	-	$2,555,000	-	$205,894,085
5	Chicago Cubs	36	$176,878,047	$2,050,500	-	$3,230,000	-	$188,402,394
6	San Francisco Giants	36	$184,981,610	$1,545,000	-	$3,902,500	-	$183,077,044
7	Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim	33	$104,697,833	$39,788,000	-	$6,071,500	-	$180,743,007
8	Texas Rangers	37	$154,923,760	$21,782,500	-	$2,033,000	-	$168,520,990
9	St. Louis Cardinals	36	$142,507,000	$13,596,500	-	-	-	$167,016,170
10	Washington Nationals	39	$143,946,885	$5,869,400	-	$515,900	-	$163,605,722
11	Toronto Blue Jays	36	$177,690,066	$1,000,000	-	$4,083,200	-	$159,923,579
12	Baltimore Orioles	35	$151,931,782	$5,765,000	-	$3,061,000	-	$156,868,519
13	New York Mets	38	$118,584,073	$46,101,500	-	-	-	$156,642,515
14	Seattle Mariners	34	$140,772,542	$4,247,700	-	$3,556,000	-	$154,817,501
15	Kansas City Royals	35	$111,647,850	$20,825,000	-	$1,016,000	-	$145,220,358
16	Chicago White Sox	35	$104,317,667	$12,670,500	-	-	-	$141,208,186
17	San Diego Padres	35	$29,152,300	$15,207,600	-	$1,016,800	-	$127,681,702
18	Atlanta Braves	35	$68,892,541	$8,760,250	-	$4,650,000	-	$122,163,633
19	Colorado Rockies	37	$92,876,571	$1,526,500	-	$3,037,000	-	$120,586,480
20	Philadelphia Phillies	36	$62,030,000	$22,225,000	-	$6,166,668	-	$117,259,109
21	Cleveland Indians	37	$83,639,399	$11,875,000	-	$2,015,000	-	$114,707,868
22	Cincinnati Reds	32	$68,954,885	$12,552,175	-	$4,953,000	-	$114,297,733
23	Houston Astros	34	$80,498,600	$7,156,700	-	$2,507,500	-	$112,738,542
24	Minnesota Twins	31	$69,496,200	$24,375,000	-	$3,782,000	-	$106,235,357
25	Pittsburgh Pirates	34	$71,459,433	$11,498,833	-	$2,030,000	-	$105,866,836
26	Arizona Diamondbacks	35	$83,615,700	$1,051,200	-	$3,053,700	-	$103,372,186
27	Oakland Athletics	34	$35,089,566	$20,137,500	-	$507,500	-	$99,914,388
28	Miami Marlins	37	$75,923,500	-	-	$6,199,500	-	$80,461,206
29	Milwaukee Brewers	35	$55,126,100	$2,517,700	-	$4,262,100	-	$75,244,791
30	Tampa Bay Rays	33	$42,188,891	$5,226,100	-	$3,537,000	-	$71,332,249

**irish1** · 12-04-16, 11:06 AM

Pirates have plenty of cash with that low payroll.