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  • EmpireMaker
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 06-18-09
    • 15579

    #3081
    Dodgers To Re-Sign Kenley Jansen

    By Steve Adams | December 12, 2016 at 6:35pm CDT
    6:35pm: While the deal doesn’t include no-trade protection, it does come with an assignment bonus, Rosenthal tweets.
    2:49pm: Barry Svrluga of the Washington Post reports (on Twitter) that the Nationals were willing to offer more, though their offer contained deferred money. USA Today’s Bob Nightengale tweets that the Nats were willing to offer “as much as $5 million more.”
    Jansen’s agent, Adam Katz, confirmed to Joel Sherman of the New York Post (all links to Sherman on Twitter) that the Nats offered more: “The Nationals’ presentation was exceptional and generous and for more money. They conducted recruitment of this player in a high caliber professional way. Kenley and I were very impressed. At the end of the day Kenley loves Los Angeles, his Dodger family, the fans here and although money was a factor, it wasn’t the most important thing.”
    Of course, the deferrals involved in Washington’s offer could very well have brought the present-day value of the deal south of $80MM, and there’s been no word that the Nats were willing to include an opt-out in the deal, either (and such clauses add significant value to the deal as well, as MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz explained when attempting to monetize opt-out clauses last winter). As such, while the Nationals’ offer may have been for more money on paper, the overall value of the proposal could’ve been lower than the Dodgers’ offer.
    1:29pm: Jansen can opt out of his new five-year deal after three seasons, reports Yahoo’s Tim Brown (on Twitter), who also notes that Jansen was offered more money elsewhere. (As noted below, the Marlins are reported to have topped $80MM in their best offer.)
    12:38pm: The Dodgers and closer Kenley Jansen are in agreement on a five-year deal worth $80MM, reports Jim Bowden of ESPN and MLB Network Radio on SiriusXM (Twitter link). FOX’s Ken Rosenthal had reported that the Dodgers and Jansen were closing in on a deal shortly prior to Bowden’s report, and MLB Network’s Jon Morosi had tweeted that it was expected to be a five-year deal.
    [Related: Updated Los Angeles Dodgers Depth Chart]

    The 29-year-old Jansen is fresh off what was arguably the best season of his excellent career. In 68 2/3 regular-season innings, Jansen notched a full-season career-best 1.83 ERA with 13.6 K/9, 1.4 BB/9 and a 30 percent ground-ball rate to go along with a career-best 47 saves. That performance earned him his first All-Star berth, though how he’d gone five full seasons without an All-Star appearance is a mystery, as Jansen has compiled a 2.20 ERA with 13.9 K/9 against 2.6 BB/9 in 408 2/3 innings in the regular season over the life of his career. He’s never posted an ERA higher than 2.85 in his career, and even that mark came back in 2011. Since that time, his control has improved remarkably, and his ERA numbers have dipped accordingly. Dating back to the 2010 season, Chapman ranks third among all qualified relievers in total strikeouts, fourth in strikeout percentage and seventh in earned run average.
    Jansen entered the winter as one of the market’s premium free agents and drew significant interest from the Yankees (who instead re-signed Aroldis Chapman), Nationals and Marlins — the latter of whom reportedly made an offer to Jansen that was greater than the five-year, $80MM pact to which he has agreed with the Dodgers. (It’s not known whether the Marlins’ offer included any sort of opt-out clause or deferred money, however.) In the end, he’ll join Rich Hill (three years, $48MM) back in Los Angeles, and that pair seems likely to be rejoined by Justin Turner, who is reportedly close to a four-year deal to return to the Dodgers. That trio comprised the Dodgers’ top three offseason targets, and while it figures to cost the club just shy of $200MM, that expenditure will net president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman, GM Farhan Zaidi and the rest of the Dodgers’ front-office staff three of the winter’s top open-market talents.
    The Dodgers already projected to have a $203.9MM payroll even without Jansen in the fold, and adding his average annual value to the mix — we don’t yet know the official breakdown of the deal — should push the Dodgers’ 2017 payroll up to $219.4MM (via Jason Martinez of MLBTR/Roster Resource). Further adding Turner at a reported $16MM annual value would push next year’s overall commitments upwards of $235MM, though the luxury tax is calculated on the average annual value of a team’s total contracts as opposed to the bottom-line payroll figure.
    The Dodgers are known to be working to decrease their payroll, which may seem counter-intuitive after they’ve spent nearly $200MM on their top three free agents (assuming the Jansen deal gets done). However, the Dodgers will also see their commitments to Alex Guerrero and Carl Crawford (roughly $28MM combined) come off the books next winter, at which point they can also buy out the mutual option on Andre Ethier’s contract. A year later, they’ll see Adrian Gonzalez, Scott Kazmir, Hyun-jin Ryu and Brandon McCarthy each come off the books as well, creating further opportunity to trim down the payroll. And, with a number of young in-house options both on the roster (Corey Seager, Julio Urias, Joc Pederson) and rising through the farm (Cody Bellinger, Jose De Leon, Yadiel Alvarez, Alex Verdugo, among others), they could eventually field a roster that is built more on homegrown talent than through free-agent spending, as recent iterations of their roster have been.
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    • Cross
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 04-15-11
      • 5777

      #3082
      Jansen is a beast, smart move Dodgers.
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      • Chi_archie
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-22-08
        • 63167

        #3083
        Yes, wise decision Doyers
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        • El Nino
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 05-03-12
          • 18426

          #3084
          Spend $80 milly on a closer when the rest of the bullpen blows = far from smart.
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          • RudyRuetigger
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 08-24-10
            • 65084

            #3085
            archie how the hell are the pirates going to be next year
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            • BigSpoon
              SBR MVP
              • 11-04-10
              • 4113

              #3086
              MLB gone mad for relievers making over $16M per year to pitch 50-80 innings a season.
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              • koz-man
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 11-21-08
                • 7102

                #3087
                Originally posted by BigSpoon
                MLB gone mad for relievers making over $16M per year to pitch 50-80 innings a season.
                I Agree..This is getting out of control.

                If your team can't score runs to get a led. Closer are useless!!!
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                • Cross
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 04-15-11
                  • 5777

                  #3088
                  When he gets a lead, the game is over. Quite the luxury.
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                  • El Nino
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 05-03-12
                    • 18426

                    #3089
                    Originally posted by koz-man
                    I Agree..This is getting out of control.

                    If your team can't score runs to get a led. Closer are useless!!!
                    Not to mention the volatility of the closer role. You can be an ace closer one season and out of the majors in 3 seasons.
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                    • EmpireMaker
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 06-18-09
                      • 15579

                      #3090
                      The Dodgers have finalized their new four-year deal with third baseman Justin Turner, reports Jim Bowden of ESPN and MLB Network Radio on SiriusXM. The deal will guarantee Turner a total of $64MM, Bowden notes, as was reported yesterday when the two sides were first said to be nearing an agreement. Turner is a client of the Legacy Agency. The Dodgers have yet to officially announce the deal.

                      Turner, who just turned 32, was an unheralded minor league signing for the Dodgers three offseasons ago but broke out and reached star status in his three years with Los Angeles. Since being non-tendered by the Mets and signing in L.A., he’s slashed .296/.364/.492 with 50 homers in just shy of 1400 plate appearances. His walk rate was down a bit in 2016, but Turner offset the dip in on-base percentage by delivering the best power production of his life. Turner hit .273/.339/.493 while setting career-highs in home runs (27), doubles (34), triples (three), and isolated power (.218). Further strengthening his overall performance was his excellent defense at third base, where Defensive Runs Saved pegged him at seven run above average, while Ultimate Zone Rating was even more bullish at +14 runs.
                      [Related: Updated Los Angeles Dodgers Depth Chart]
                      A look at the open market shows a number of free-agent alternatives to Turner, and there were trade options to pursue as well (e.g. Todd Frazier), but none of the available alternatives can reliably be expected to produce in the manner that Turner did in his first three years with the Dodgers. Though president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman hasn’t made a habit out of beating the market and landing top-tier free agents since taking over atop the Dodgers’ front office, he’s now done just that on three instances this winter — each to retain one of his own players — by agreeing to new deals with Turner, Rich Hill and Kenley Jansen. That trio will cost the Dodgers about $192MM in total and add about $48MM of luxury tax considerations to the annual ledger.
                      Then again, the Dodgers are poised to see their commitments to Carl Crawford, Andre Ethier and Alex Guerrero come off the books next year and could bid farewell to Adrian Gonzalez, Scott Kazmir, Brandon McCarthy and Hyun-jun Ryu a year later. Those commitments total upward of $100MM in annual luxury tax penalization, so while the Dodgers are adding $48MM to their CBT total in the short-term, they’ll see more than twice that sum come off the books in the next 24 months. And, of course, Los Angeles could look to trade from its stable of veterans and jump the gun on removing some of those mostly onerous commitments from the ledger.
                      Of course, the Dodgers can’t be completely ruled out from pursuing further additions. They could still stand to see upgrades in the bullpen, at second base and possibly in the corner outfield. In particular, the 2016 iteration of the club was the worst in baseball at hitting left-handed pitching. The return of Turner should help with that flaw — though he did have some uncharacteristic struggles against southpaws last year — but further right-handed bats with some pop and/or strong on-base skills would make for reasonable pursuits. And, even with Jansen on board, the Dodgers are currently down a pair of setup men, as both Joe Blanton and J.P. Howell hit the free-agent market following the 2016 season.
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                      • Chi_archie
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-22-08
                        • 63167

                        #3091
                        Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                        archie how the hell are the pirates going to be next year

                        they need a lot of pitching help to not be a sub .500 team next year. But there ain't much out there so they need another reclamation miracle
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                        • BigSpoon
                          SBR MVP
                          • 11-04-10
                          • 4113

                          #3092
                          Originally posted by Chi_archie
                          they need a lot of pitching help to not be a sub .500 team next year. But there ain't much out there so they need another reclamation miracle
                          That Pirates pitching coach is a miracle worker though. He turned J.A. Happ's career around.
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                          • koz-man
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 11-21-08
                            • 7102

                            #3093
                            League source indicates the Cubs and pitcher Koji Uehara have agreed on terms for a one year deal at $6 million.

                            Uehara will turn 42 after opening night providing the Cubs with a third arm who has closing experience to go along with Wade Davis and Hector Rondon. Uehara has 93 career saves having pitched most recently for the Boston Red Sox. He began his MLB career at age 34 with the Baltimore Orioles.
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                            • Cross
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 04-15-11
                              • 5777

                              #3094
                              Let's hope he's better that Kosuke Fukudome.
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                              • El Nino
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 05-03-12
                                • 18426

                                #3095
                                Originally posted by Cross
                                Let's hope he's better that Kosuke Fukudome.
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                                • EmpireMaker
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 06-18-09
                                  • 15579

                                  #3096
                                  IMO it's time for Hamilton to give it up.

                                  The Rangers are planning to watch free-agent outfielder Josh Hamilton work out prior to Christmas, reports Jeff Wilson of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. If everything checks out, Texas will consider signing Hamilton to a minor league pact, GM Jon Daniels tells Wilson.

                                  The Rangers released Hamilton back in late August, although at the time reporters (including Wilson) explained that the decision was largely procedural. Texas released Hamilton to free up a 40-man roster spot and also to create the opportunity for Hamilton to be re-signed and play with the team early in the 2017 season.
                                  [Related: Texas Rangers Depth Chart]
                                  Hamilton still has one year remaining on the five-year, $125MM contract he signed prior to the 2013 season (the Angels are on the hook for nearly all of his 2017 salary), and if Texas had waited to release him until after the season and then re-signed him to a minor league deal, Hamilton would’ve been ineligible to play in the Majors with Texas until May 15 of next year. Releasing him in August created some needed 40-man move and also allowed for the possibility that Hamilton is healthy enough to contribute in a part-time role early next year. It’s been expected that the Rangers would ink Hamilton to a minor league deal for quite some time, as the player himself even told Wilson that he was expecting as much prior to his initial release.
                                  Now 35 years of age, Hamilton underwent a pair of knee surgeries last season that proved to be more serious than initially expected. Hamilton underwent surgery to repair some meniscus damage in early June last year, but upon beginning the operation, Dr. Walt Lowe discovered enough damage to the anterior cruciate ligament that an ACL repair was also required. That surgery effectively ended Hamilton’s 2016 campaign — a season in which he was never able to take the field in the Majors.
                                  Once one of the game’s most feared sluggers, Hamilton’s tumultuous career has been in a downward spiral since he signed in Anaheim four years ago. While he delivered respectable production in his first two years with the Halos — .255/.316/.426 — Hamilton never came close to the heights he reached with the Rangers, for whom he batted .305/.363/.549 from 2008-12. He was traded back to Texas in 2015 after a relapse into substance abuse seemingly fractured his relationship with Angels management. The Rangers are on the hook for just $2MM of Hamilton’s 2017 salary, while the Angels are paying him more than $26MM in the final season of his deal.
                                  If Hamilton does land with the Rangers, he certainly won’t be counted on for any kind of regular role with the team. Rather he’d have to earn a roster spot with the club come Spring Training, and even if he were to make the team, it’d likely be as a part-time outfielder and designated hitter. The Rangers currently have Shin-Soo Choo, Carlos Gomez and Nomar Mazara lined up in the outfield, but the DH situation is a bit murkier. Joey Gallo could potentially fill that role, though it’s been reported this winter that the team would ideally like Gallo to open the season in the minors. Choo could also line up as the team’s DH next year and beyond, though they’d need to bring in some additional corner outfield help in that scenario.
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                                  • koz-man
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 11-21-08
                                    • 7102

                                    #3097
                                    The White Sox signed free-agent pitcher Derek Holland. From 2011 to 2013, Holland averaged 195 innings per season and pitched to a 3.98 ERA. From 2014 to 2016, he's averaged 68 innings per season and pitched to a 4.30 ERA, including 4.91 and 4.95 the last 2 seasons with the Rangers.
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                                    • koz-man
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 11-21-08
                                      • 7102

                                      #3098
                                      The Orioles signed free-agent catcher Welington Castillo, who will replace Matt Wieters as the Orioles everyday catcher. Castillo outperformed Wieters in all 3 of the slashline stats last season, hitting .264/.322/.423 to Wieters' .243/.302/.409.
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                                      • Chi_archie
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-22-08
                                        • 63167

                                        #3099
                                        Originally posted by koz-man
                                        The White Sox signed free-agent pitcher Derek Holland. From 2011 to 2013, Holland averaged 195 innings per season and pitched to a 3.98 ERA. From 2014 to 2016, he's averaged 68 innings per season and pitched to a 4.30 ERA, including 4.91 and 4.95 the last 2 seasons with the Rangers.

                                        Solid signing
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                                        • BigSpoon
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-04-10
                                          • 4113

                                          #3100
                                          Relief pitchers continue their great offseason. Rockies sign lefty Mike Dunn to 3 years and $19M, wow. http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...-year-contract
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                                          • EmpireMaker
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 06-18-09
                                            • 15579

                                            #3101
                                            The Marlins have agreed to a two-year deal with free-agent righty Junichi Tazawa, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (Twitter links). He’ll earn $12MM in the contract, per Rosenthal, with $5MM in the first year and $7MM coming in the second, according to SB Nation’s Chris Cotillo (via Twitter).
                                            [RELATED: Updated Marlins Depth Chart]
                                            Tazawa, 30, has long carried strong strikeout-and-walk numbers, with a lifetime 8.9 K/9 against 2.0 BB/9, though he induces grounders on less than two of every five balls put in play against him. From 2012 through 2014, that steady backdrop allowed Tazawa to carry an excellent 2.62 ERA over 175 1/3 innings.

                                            While the K/BB figures remained about the same over the ensuing two seasons, however, Tazawa has fallen off in the results department. Since the start of 2015, he has allowed 4.15 earned runs per nine. The main culprit in 2015, perhaps, was an elevated .349 batting average on balls in play against him. While that fell back to earth (.292) in 2016, Tazawa showed a new susceptibility to the long ball, allowing 1.63 homers per nine.
                                            The Marlins could have a relative bargain on their hands if Tazawa’s earned-run dip is more fluke than fact. He was mostly dinged up last year in a six-appearance stretch in August, but finished strong and otherwise was much the same pitcher as usual. His average fastball velocity in 2016 (92.8 mph) was down slightly against prior years, but not drastically so (he had ranged between 92.2 and 93.9 over the prior four seasons). And Tazawa’s 13.0% swinging-strike rate was the second-best mark of his career.
                                            Having missed on top-dollar closer Kenley Jansen, Miami will instead plug Tazawa — and, potentially, another as-yet-undetermined new acquisition — into the set-up corps. A solid unit is taking shape in front of presumptive closer A.J. Ramos, with Tazawa joining returning righties David Phelps and Kyle Barraclough, each of whom was excellent in 2016.
                                            Of course, that’s not quite the potential super-pen that has been hypothesized as the Fish seemingly moved off of the idea of dealing for a high-quality starter, but there may be more yet to come from president of baseball operations Michael Hill and his staff. Having watched as former southpaw reliever Mike Dunn landed with the Rockies earlier today, it’s possible to imagine the Marlins turning their sights to the remaining market for lefty relievers.
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                                            • koz-man
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 11-21-08
                                              • 7102

                                              #3102
                                              Hall of Famer Rod Carew is preparing to receive a new heart and undergo a kidney transplant.

                                              Wow.. God bless & hope the Best for him!!!
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                                              • Chi_archie
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-22-08
                                                • 63167

                                                #3103
                                                Originally posted by koz-man
                                                Hall of Famer Rod Carew is preparing to receive a new heart and undergo a kidney transplant.

                                                Wow.. God bless & hope the Best for him!!!
                                                woah two different organs! that has got to be tough to keep the body from rejecting
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                                                • El Nino
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 05-03-12
                                                  • 18426

                                                  #3104
                                                  BOL, Rod Carew!
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                                                  • El Nino
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 05-03-12
                                                    • 18426

                                                    #3105
                                                    Originally posted by koz-man
                                                    The Orioles signed free-agent catcher Welington Castillo, who will replace Matt Wieters as the Orioles everyday catcher. Castillo outperformed Wieters in all 3 of the slashline stats last season, hitting .264/.322/.423 to Wieters' .243/.302/.409.
                                                    Beeeeeeeef! He should have good power #'s at Camden Yard
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                                                    • BigSpoon
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-04-10
                                                      • 4113

                                                      #3106
                                                      Phillies sign CF Odubel Herrera to a 5 year contract worth $30.5M. Going to be a steal of a deal for Philly imo. http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...ract-extension
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                                                      • BarkingToad
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 08-31-08
                                                        • 5913

                                                        #3107
                                                        Originally posted by El Nino
                                                        Not to mention the volatility of the closer role. You can be an ace closer one season and out of the majors in 3 seasons.
                                                        Exactly, Trevor Rosenthal is a perfect example.
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                                                        • EmpireMaker
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 06-18-09
                                                          • 15579

                                                          #3108
                                                          Originally posted by BigSpoon
                                                          Phillies sign CF Odubel Herrera to a 5 year contract worth $30.5M. Going to be a steal of a deal for Philly imo. http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...ract-extension
                                                          I think that the Phillies made out good on this contract too.
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                                                          • Chi_archie
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-22-08
                                                            • 63167

                                                            #3109
                                                            Originally posted by BigSpoon
                                                            Phillies sign CF Odubel Herrera to a 5 year contract worth $30.5M. Going to be a steal of a deal for Philly imo. http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...ract-extension


                                                            Good signing
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                                                            • koz-man
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 11-21-08
                                                              • 7102

                                                              #3110
                                                              Brad Ziegler signs 2 year $16 million dollar deal with Marlins confirmed by multiple sources and first reported by Ken Rosenthal of MLB
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                                                              • El Nino
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 05-03-12
                                                                • 18426

                                                                #3111
                                                                Originally posted by koz-man
                                                                Brad Ziegler signs 2 year $16 million dollar deal with Marlins confirmed by multiple sources and first reported by Ken Rosenthal of MLB
                                                                Underrated closer. Guey is a double play inducing machine.
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                                                                • BigSpoon
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 11-04-10
                                                                  • 4113

                                                                  #3112
                                                                  White Sox avoid salary arbitration with Jose Abreu, agree to terms on a 1 year, $10.825M deal. Now they can trade him away to continue the rebuild. http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...5-million-deal
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                                                                  • EmpireMaker
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 06-18-09
                                                                    • 15579

                                                                    #3113
                                                                    Originally posted by BigSpoon
                                                                    White Sox avoid salary arbitration with Jose Abreu, agree to terms on a 1 year, $10.825M deal. Now they can trade him away to continue the rebuild. http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...5-million-deal
                                                                    Jose Abreu was a huge disappointment this season, it was nothing like last season at all. So who knows what he will achieve next season.
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                                                                    • koz-man
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 11-21-08
                                                                      • 7102

                                                                      #3114
                                                                      Clayton Kershaw's alma mater, Highland Park High School, won a Texas state football championship Saturday.

                                                                      Jerry Jones' grandson, John Stephen Jones, was the starting QB for Highland Park. The title game was at Jerry Jones' football palace, AT&T Stadium.
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                                                                      • El Nino
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 05-03-12
                                                                        • 18426

                                                                        #3115
                                                                        Originally posted by BigSpoon
                                                                        White Sox avoid salary arbitration with Jose Abreu, agree to terms on a 1 year, $10.825M deal. Now they can trade him away to continue the rebuild. http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...5-million-deal
                                                                        It's hard to believe the White Sox ever won the World Series...
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