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  • Love The Action
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    • 11-08-10
    • 10952

    #1
    LTA's Heisman Play - RGIII (+150) $125
    I posted this in my thread earlier. http://forum.sbrforum.com/college-fo...plays-p50.html

    I thought we could get some Heisman talk going. I think RGIII is a great value wager for Saturday. Let's hear your thoughts. Good luck on whoever you choose.

    ACTION WAGER


    Heisman Trophy Winner
    December 10, 2011

    Robert Griffin, III (+150) $125 (Locked)

    Along with a play on the total in the Army game, I will also have some action on the Heisman Trophy award this Saturday. I think this is a great spot to exploit some value in the odds. Right now, in addition to RGIII at +150, I'm getting +175 on Luck, +10000 on Keenum and Moore, +2500 on Barkley and Ball and -185 on Richardson. Keenum and Moore are eliminated because they have no chance as evidenced by their odds, leaving the only real contenders of Barkley, Ball, Luck, Richardson and RGIII.

    Barkley played well coming on at the end of the year, but because of the USC sanctions he was precluded from contending for a National Championship or conference championship game and was not allowed to play in a bowl game. That hurt his chances. Much like a few of the other candidates, Barkley was "out of sight, out of mind" this weekend as UCLA and Oregon played each other for the Pac 12 crown. Even though Barkley might have the best pro prospects out of this group, he is not walking away with the award. I don't think the voters will embrace Barkley.

    Montee Ball was a beast for Wisconsin this year, but was overshadowed by Russel Wilson to some extent. Was Ball's success the result of Wilson and vice versa? If you look at the other candidates, they are the main weapons for their respective offenses. However, with Wilson and Ball on the same team, the spotlight was shared. In fact, for most of the year, the Wisky PR Office was hyping Wilson more than Ball and it wasn't until the last few weeks that Ball established himself as a candidate. That is too little, too little in my mind and I don't think the voters will embrace Ball.

    Andrew Luck was the darling of world until he was handled quite easily by the Oregon defense. Before that, he had a few games in which he struggled, including the lucky win over USC. I just don't see the voters giving Luck the award after fading over the last quarter of the season. While he has an outside shot as evidenced by his +175 price, Luck's lack of winning the big game will hold him back. The voters know this guy is destined for #1 NFL draft pick status, so don't expect him to get the Heisman too. Plus, Luck didn't play last weekend and missed out on that last chance to showcase his talents. I don't think the voters will embrace Luck.

    Trent Richardson can very well win the award and if RGII doesn't, my pick would be Richardson. However, at -185, there is no value in this play. Richardson is a beast, but might not get enough love from the writers because he didn't do anything flashy and he doesn't have the off the field persona of an RGIII. I think Richardson will also be very successful in the pros and he has all the stats in the world to support winning the award, I just don't think he gets it because the best "story" in this year's race -- and remember the sports writers are the voters -- is RGIII. With Richardson coming from Bama and all the disdain the writers have for Saban, I think they want to root for the underdog this year and that dog is RGIII. I don't think the writers will embrace Richardson.

    THE WINNER of this year's Heisman will be Robert Griffin, III.

    RGIII is the full package. He's got all the stats, has done it for two years and he produced week in and week out all year rarely having an off game. In addition, he just had a huge game against Texas which was fresh in the writer's mind as the procrastinators turned in their ballot today. At +150, RGIII gives us the best bang for our buck and provides a nice return on our investment. Bottom line is that writers love a story and RGII gives them that underdog story. RGII is a very smart guy, graduated in three years at Baylor and will get his master's degree in communication this spring. If he decides to forgo the draft and stay at Baylor for a fifth year, he will do so as a law student at Baylor's law school. Writer's love this sort of story of a successful guy like RGII in comparison to all the dirty players and scandals of the Cam Newton and Reggie Bush Heisman years. I predict the writers give the award to RGIII because he earned it on the field just as much as any other player, plus he is a great story off the field that will restore some credibility to the award. RGII gives us the best value at +150 and I think the writers embrace RGII and his story by awarding him the Heisman Trophy Award on December 10, 2011. I am rolling with RGIII for 0.50x (under my football scale that is $125). Good luck.
  • mlb
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-04-09
    • 10509

    #2
    Interesting to see that he costs more then luck.... rgIII is still the least known to a slightly below average sports fan ... I think he could win it as that last performance against Texas surely did not hurt his chances
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    • goblue12
      SBR MVP
      • 02-08-09
      • 1316

      #3
      What sportsbook are you guys finding props on this?
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      • Love The Action
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        • 11-08-10
        • 10952

        #4
        Originally posted by goblue12
        What sportsbook are you guys finding props on this?
        I use local books. But the local I made this wager through usually follows 5d/pinny numbers. I'm sure 5d has this prop. Good luck on whoever you choose.
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        • letsgo
          SBR MVP
          • 03-27-10
          • 2204

          #5
          On 5 dimes:

          Heisman Trophy Winner - Best Buy Theater - New York, NY
          Sat 12/10 17101 Robert Griffin III wins Heisman Trophy -190
          8:00PM 17102 Field wins Heisman Thophy +150
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          • letsgo
            SBR MVP
            • 03-27-10
            • 2204

            #6
            I would go all in if I could get those odds on RGIII, they said on ESPN that he is leading among Heisman votes at ESPN.
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            • Love The Action
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 11-08-10
              • 10952

              #7
              Originally posted by letsgo
              On 5 dimes:

              Heisman Trophy Winner - Best Buy Theater - New York, NY
              Sat 12/10 17101 Robert Griffin III wins Heisman Trophy -190
              8:00PM 17102 Field wins Heisman Thophy +150
              Wow....I'm still getting +150. I'm adding another 0.50x. Thanks for the heads up.
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              • letsgo
                SBR MVP
                • 03-27-10
                • 2204

                #8
                Yeah, I am thinking it may be an error on your book, I would hammer that.
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                • xbhessx
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 11-05-11
                  • 23

                  #9
                  I took "the field" vs Andrew luck at +250 about a month ago.
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                  • Love The Action
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 11-08-10
                    • 10952

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Love The Action
                    I posted this in my thread earlier. http://forum.sbrforum.com/college-fo...plays-p50.html

                    I thought we could get some Heisman talk going. I think RGIII is a great value wager for Saturday. Let's hear your thoughts. Good luck on whoever you choose.

                    ACTION WAGER


                    Heisman Trophy Winner
                    December 10, 2011

                    Robert Griffin, III (+150) $125 (Locked)

                    Along with a play on the total in the Army game, I will also have some action on the Heisman Trophy award this Saturday. I think this is a great spot to exploit some value in the odds. Right now, in addition to RGIII at +150, I'm getting +175 on Luck, +10000 on Keenum and Moore, +2500 on Barkley and Ball and -185 on Richardson. Keenum and Moore are eliminated because they have no chance as evidenced by their odds, leaving the only real contenders of Barkley, Ball, Luck, Richardson and RGIII.

                    Barkley played well coming on at the end of the year, but because of the USC sanctions he was precluded from contending for a National Championship or conference championship game and was not allowed to play in a bowl game. That hurt his chances. Much like a few of the other candidates, Barkley was "out of sight, out of mind" this weekend as UCLA and Oregon played each other for the Pac 12 crown. Even though Barkley might have the best pro prospects out of this group, he is not walking away with the award. I don't think the voters will embrace Barkley.

                    Montee Ball was a beast for Wisconsin this year, but was overshadowed by Russel Wilson to some extent. Was Ball's success the result of Wilson and vice versa? If you look at the other candidates, they are the main weapons for their respective offenses. However, with Wilson and Ball on the same team, the spotlight was shared. In fact, for most of the year, the Wisky PR Office was hyping Wilson more than Ball and it wasn't until the last few weeks that Ball established himself as a candidate. That is too little, too little in my mind and I don't think the voters will embrace Ball.

                    Andrew Luck was the darling of world until he was handled quite easily by the Oregon defense. Before that, he had a few games in which he struggled, including the lucky win over USC. I just don't see the voters giving Luck the award after fading over the last quarter of the season. While he has an outside shot as evidenced by his +175 price, Luck's lack of winning the big game will hold him back. The voters know this guy is destined for #1 NFL draft pick status, so don't expect him to get the Heisman too. Plus, Luck didn't play last weekend and missed out on that last chance to showcase his talents. I don't think the voters will embrace Luck.

                    Trent Richardson can very well win the award and if RGII doesn't, my pick would be Richardson. However, at -185, there is no value in this play. Richardson is a beast, but might not get enough love from the writers because he didn't do anything flashy and he doesn't have the off the field persona of an RGIII. I think Richardson will also be very successful in the pros and he has all the stats in the world to support winning the award, I just don't think he gets it because the best "story" in this year's race -- and remember the sports writers are the voters -- is RGIII. With Richardson coming from Bama and all the disdain the writers have for Saban, I think they want to root for the underdog this year and that dog is RGIII. I don't think the writers will embrace Richardson.

                    THE WINNER of this year's Heisman will be Robert Griffin, III.

                    RGIII is the full package. He's got all the stats, has done it for two years and he produced week in and week out all year rarely having an off game. In addition, he just had a huge game against Texas which was fresh in the writer's mind as the procrastinators turned in their ballot today. At +150, RGIII gives us the best bang for our buck and provides a nice return on our investment. Bottom line is that writers love a story and RGII gives them that underdog story. RGII is a very smart guy, graduated in three years at Baylor and will get his master's degree in communication this spring. If he decides to forgo the draft and stay at Baylor for a fifth year, he will do so as a law student at Baylor's law school. Writer's love this sort of story of a successful guy like RGII in comparison to all the dirty players and scandals of the Cam Newton and Reggie Bush Heisman years. I predict the writers give the award to RGIII because he earned it on the field just as much as any other player, plus he is a great story off the field that will restore some credibility to the award. RGII gives us the best value at +150 and I think the writers embrace RGII and his story by awarding him the Heisman Trophy Award on December 10, 2011. I am rolling with RGIII for 0.50x (under my football scale that is $125). Good luck.

                    Added 0.50x ($125) for total of 1x ($250) +150 (Locked)


                    Getting +150 is too good to pass up. According to Letsgo's post, 5d has RGIII at -190 so getting +150 is almost stealing. I'm rolling with RGIII to win the Heisman for 1x. Good luck.
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                    • Love The Action
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                      • 11-08-10
                      • 10952

                      #11
                      My local book just removed the Heisman odds from the website. I betcha he reopens with RGIII at minus odds. This is looking like a great wager right now.
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                      • BiffTFinancial
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                        • 01-29-09
                        • 22670

                        #12
                        shrewd call, LTA. BOL, i think you're right.
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                        • Donnie Brasco
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 01-04-11
                          • 862

                          #13
                          5d is -410!
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                          • letsgo
                            SBR MVP
                            • 03-27-10
                            • 2204

                            #14
                            5D -410 now, -600 other places, looks like he won.
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                            • letsgo
                              SBR MVP
                              • 03-27-10
                              • 2204

                              #15
                              -900 now on 5 dimes.
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                              • Love The Action
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 11-08-10
                                • 10952

                                #16
                                Originally posted by BiffTFinancial
                                shrewd call, LTA. BOL, i think you're right.
                                Thanks...its looking really good now. My local just posted new odds and griffin is at -400. I can now get richardson at +200, setting up some free money if I wish to arb out. However, I think that griffin wins so I may just let it ride.
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                                • Love The Action
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                                  • 11-08-10
                                  • 10952

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by letsgo
                                  5D -410 now, -600 other places, looks like he won.
                                  I hope so...my local has -400 now...

                                  GL if you played it
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                                  • Love The Action
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                                    • 11-08-10
                                    • 10952

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by xbhessx
                                    I took "the field" vs Andrew luck at +250 about a month ago.
                                    That's a great bet
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                                    • No coincidences
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                                      • 01-18-10
                                      • 76300

                                      #19
                                      Holy shit -- -750 now at BOL! Was +300 yesterday!

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                                      • BriGuy
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                                        • 12-06-11
                                        • 1556

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by letsgo
                                        5D -410 now, -600 other places, looks like he won.
                                        Yeah, as the week progresses the ESPN "Heismanology" random sample gets larger and therefore more statistically accurate. RG3 is the clear front runner.

                                        Personally I think the best college player I saw this year was a fella by the name of Montee Ball. But he received absolutely none of that all-important preseason hype machine.
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                                        • Love The Action
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                                          • 11-08-10
                                          • 10952

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by BriGuy
                                          Yeah, as the week progresses the ESPN "Heismanology" random sample gets larger and therefore more statistically accurate. RG3 is the clear front runner.

                                          Personally I think the best college player I saw this year was a fella by the name of Montee Ball. But he received absolutely none of that all-important preseason hype machine.
                                          Yep....and he played alongside Wilson, whose success hurt Ball's chances and vice versa.
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                                          • Love The Action
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                                            • 11-08-10
                                            • 10952

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by BiffTFinancial
                                            shrewd call, LTA. BOL, i think you're right.

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                                            • Love The Action
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                                              • 11-08-10
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by No coincidences
                                              Holy shit -- -750 now at BOL! Was +300 yesterday!


                                              It's -700 at the local book where I placed my wager. I'm loving it. Can't get more +ev than locking in a play at +150 and watching it go all the way up to -700. Sweet.
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                                              • Love The Action
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                                                • 11-08-10
                                                • 10952

                                                #24
                                                I just hope some of you were able to get on this one with me. I posted it the night before the odds jumped, so maybe a few of you were up late. Let's cash it!
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                                                • upscope
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                                                  • 04-26-11
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                                                  #25
                                                  Yesterday my book had RG III @ +180 today its -500
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                                                  • jas19illini
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                                                    • 10-27-10
                                                    • 682

                                                    #26
                                                    Mine was EVEN yesterday and -2000 today. No that's not a typo.
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                                                    • Night-Tripper
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                                                      • 12-14-09
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                                                      #27
                                                      2011 Heisman Trophy Winner - Award must have a ultimate Winner. ALL BETS ACTION. DEAD HEAT RULE APPLIES.
                                                      Dec 11, 2011 23:59 PM
                                                      American (+105) Decimal (3.50) Fractional (5/2)
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                                                      Robert Griffin III (Baylor) 1/8

                                                      Trent Richardson (Alabama) 15/4

                                                      Andrew Luck (Stanford) 15/4

                                                      Tyrann Mathieu (LSU) 25/1

                                                      Montee Ball (Wisconsin) 100/1
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                                                      • riffraff24
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                                                        #28
                                                        Unreal. -1350 now. wish i saw this earlier!
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                                                        • PaperTrail07
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                                                          • 08-29-08
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                                                          #29
                                                          LOL.....RGIII should 100% win the heisman....
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                                                          • Night-Tripper
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                                                            #30
                                                            2011 Heisman Trophy Winner - Award must have a ultimate Winner. ALL BETS ACTION. DEAD HEAT RULE APPLIES.
                                                            Dec 11, 2011 23:59 PM
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                                                            Robert Griffin III (Baylor) 2/19

                                                            Trent Richardson (Alabama) 9/2

                                                            Andrew Luck (Stanford) 9/2

                                                            Tyrann Mathieu (LSU) 30/1

                                                            Montee Ball (Wisconsin) 100/1
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                                                            • Night-Tripper
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                                                              • 3205

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Love The Action
                                                              I posted this in my thread earlier. http://forum.sbrforum.com/college-fo...plays-p50.html

                                                              I thought we could get some Heisman talk going. I think RGIII is a great value wager for Saturday. Let's hear your thoughts. Good luck on whoever you choose.

                                                              ACTION WAGER

                                                              Heisman Trophy Winner December 10, 2011

                                                              Robert Griffin, III (+150) $125 (Locked)

                                                              Along with a play on the total in the Army game, I will also have some action on the Heisman Trophy award this Saturday. I think this is a great spot to exploit some value in the odds. Right now, in addition to RGIII at +150, I'm getting +175 on Luck, +10000 on Keenum and Moore, +2500 on Barkley and Ball and -185 on Richardson. Keenum and Moore are eliminated because they have no chance as evidenced by their odds, leaving the only real contenders of Barkley, Ball, Luck, Richardson and RGIII.

                                                              Barkley played well coming on at the end of the year, but because of the USC sanctions he was precluded from contending for a National Championship or conference championship game and was not allowed to play in a bowl game. That hurt his chances. Much like a few of the other candidates, Barkley was "out of sight, out of mind" this weekend as UCLA and Oregon played each other for the Pac 12 crown. Even though Barkley might have the best pro prospects out of this group, he is not walking away with the award. I don't think the voters will embrace Barkley.

                                                              Montee Ball was a beast for Wisconsin this year, but was overshadowed by Russel Wilson to some extent. Was Ball's success the result of Wilson and vice versa? If you look at the other candidates, they are the main weapons for their respective offenses. However, with Wilson and Ball on the same team, the spotlight was shared. In fact, for most of the year, the Wisky PR Office was hyping Wilson more than Ball and it wasn't until the last few weeks that Ball established himself as a candidate. That is too little, too little in my mind and I don't think the voters will embrace Ball.

                                                              Andrew Luck was the darling of world until he was handled quite easily by the Oregon defense. Before that, he had a few games in which he struggled, including the lucky win over USC. I just don't see the voters giving Luck the award after fading over the last quarter of the season. While he has an outside shot as evidenced by his +175 price, Luck's lack of winning the big game will hold him back. The voters know this guy is destined for #1 NFL draft pick status, so don't expect him to get the Heisman too. Plus, Luck didn't play last weekend and missed out on that last chance to showcase his talents. I don't think the voters will embrace Luck.

                                                              Trent Richardson can very well win the award and if RGII doesn't, my pick would be Richardson. However, at -185, there is no value in this play. Richardson is a beast, but might not get enough love from the writers because he didn't do anything flashy and he doesn't have the off the field persona of an RGIII. I think Richardson will also be very successful in the pros and he has all the stats in the world to support winning the award, I just don't think he gets it because the best "story" in this year's race -- and remember the sports writers are the voters -- is RGIII. With Richardson coming from Bama and all the disdain the writers have for Saban, I think they want to root for the underdog this year and that dog is RGIII. I don't think the writers will embrace Richardson.

                                                              THE WINNER of this year's Heisman will be Robert Griffin, III.

                                                              RGIII is the full package. He's got all the stats, has done it for two years and he produced week in and week out all year rarely having an off game. In addition, he just had a huge game against Texas which was fresh in the writer's mind as the procrastinators turned in their ballot today. At +150, RGIII gives us the best bang for our buck and provides a nice return on our investment. Bottom line is that writers love a story and RGII gives them that underdog story. RGII is a very smart guy, graduated in three years at Baylor and will get his master's degree in communication this spring. If he decides to forgo the draft and stay at Baylor for a fifth year, he will do so as a law student at Baylor's law school. Writer's love this sort of story of a successful guy like RGII in comparison to all the dirty players and scandals of the Cam Newton and Reggie Bush Heisman years. I predict the writers give the award to RGIII because he earned it on the field just as much as any other player, plus he is a great story off the field that will restore some credibility to the award. RGII gives us the best value at +150 and I think the writers embrace RGII and his story by awarding him the Heisman Trophy Award on December 10, 2011. I am rolling with RGIII for 0.50x (under my football scale that is $125). Good luck.
                                                              You did good by catching this when you did... similar to me catching Colts @ +550 to go winless on November 6th. Told my best friend about it and he wanted me to put a buck on it for him... was down to +500 that afternoon. Now, it's only +115.

                                                              Of course, the Colts could win a game and make it all irrelevant.
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                                                              • Lock Of The Aeon
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 10-16-11
                                                                • 184

                                                                #32
                                                                Nice steal. Too bad you didn't bet more. Wish I had gotten in on this.
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                                                                • Love The Action
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 11-08-10
                                                                  • 10952

                                                                  #33
                                                                  RGIII at -1000 now at the book where i got +150
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                                                                  • Redscot
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 05-16-11
                                                                    • 2571

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Regardless of outcome, this was a great bet! GL bud, I hope he gets it,seems like a quality kid too.
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                                                                    • buurrdman
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                                                                      • 09-28-10
                                                                      • 121

                                                                      #35
                                                                      What do you guys think about Luck +575.5 in points? I think RGIII Wins but its not going to be a landslide....Right?
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