PSA: syracuse defense is not that good

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  • spongerat
    SBR MVP
    • 10-01-08
    • 2023

    #1
    PSA: syracuse defense is not that good
    syracuse played colgate, maine and akron obviously it brings their numbers down. when they played any team whose offense had a heartbeat (washington, pitt, uconn and louisville even) they had decent size numbers hung on their "solid defense"

    guess what those 3 teams had in common? They were all ranked higher in rushing offense than passing. Guess what kansas state has ranked higher?

    If you remove maine and colgate...

    in games where syracuse won
    average rank of opponents rushing offense: 77.2
    average opponents rushing y/g: 136.52

    games where syracuse lost:
    average rank of opponents rushing offense: 50
    average opponents rushing y/g: 202.55

    kansas state is ranked 20th in rushing with an average of 206 y/g
    that includes beating UCF who is ranked 7th in rushing D

    not saying Kstate will definately win because syracuse has had a lot of time to prepare and turnovers can happen. Just trying to state that syracuse D isn't as amazing as their "points allowed" ranking
  • JassieJames
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 02-03-09
    • 988

    #2
    Kansas state is my pick. I have an office wager on this game!
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    • southpaw74
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 12-21-09
      • 7104

      #3
      Good points...thanks
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      • Cuse0323
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 12-09-09
        • 30169

        #4
        keep studying those numbers. syracuse wins.
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        • tcarn01
          SBR MVP
          • 10-27-09
          • 1993

          #5
          HOMER cuse0323.. No way that happens.. Old man river will have k state ready for this game and they will blow cuse out..
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          • cadillac pete
            SBR MVP
            • 01-15-06
            • 1675

            #6
            Syracuse is getting play b/c of the location of the Bowl.
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            • Cuse0323
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 12-09-09
              • 30169

              #7
              Originally posted by tcarn01
              HOMER cuse0323.. No way that happens.. Old man river will have k state ready for this game and they will blow cuse out..
              no way syracuse wins yet it's a pickem?
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              • spongerat
                SBR MVP
                • 10-01-08
                • 2023

                #8
                yes, in the same way you're saying no way they lose as a pk
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                • EaglesPhan36
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 12-06-06
                  • 71662

                  #9
                  I think all of the Big East defenses get too much hype for their rankings - they all beat up on each other with some very mediocre offenses. End of the day, they have to score points to win ... I don't know if 'Cuse can score enough to win here.
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                  • Cuse0323
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                    • 12-09-09
                    • 30169

                    #10
                    Originally posted by spongerat
                    yes, in the same way you're saying no way they lose as a pk
                    yep cause i definitely said there's no way they lose. pretty sure i called this game a toss up in another post.
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                    • Serbone
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-21-09
                      • 1300

                      #11
                      Originally posted by spongerat
                      syracuse played colgate, maine and akron obviously it brings their numbers down. when they played any team whose offense had a heartbeat (washington, pitt, uconn and louisville even) they had decent size numbers hung on their "solid defense"

                      guess what those 3 teams had in common? They were all ranked higher in rushing offense than passing. Guess what kansas state has ranked higher?

                      If you remove maine and colgate...

                      in games where syracuse won
                      average rank of opponents rushing offense: 77.2
                      average opponents rushing y/g: 136.52

                      games where syracuse lost:
                      average rank of opponents rushing offense: 50
                      average opponents rushing y/g: 202.55

                      kansas state is ranked 20th in rushing with an average of 206 y/g
                      that includes beating UCF who is ranked 7th in rushing D

                      not saying Kstate will definately win because syracuse has had a lot of time to prepare and turnovers can happen. Just trying to state that syracuse D isn't as amazing as their "points allowed" ranking
                      Agree, very good points.
                      Also, Syracuse is a dome team out in the cold today, K State plays outdoors, used to cold weather smash mouth football.
                      K State has veteran coach Snyder back, 2nd yr he got them to a bowl game and he knows what it takes to win.
                      K State should control the ball with running and short passes, Syracuse "O" is not explosive.
                      Big East is down, WV got pounded and though Louisville did cover they were very fortunate against a CUSA team.
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                      • Wolf40
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 02-09-10
                        • 954

                        #12
                        I dont think Cuse will show up today... the only thing that has me a little skeptical is the line movement from -3 down to a pk with public on Kstat???
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                        • Cuse0323
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                          • 12-09-09
                          • 30169

                          #13
                          well some of this idiotic reasoning makes me feel better. they won't show up today for their first bowl game in their career, this is a dome team that lives in one of the snowiest, coldest places in college football yet they won't be ready. good to know.
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                          • dskibin2
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 07-09-09
                            • 313

                            #14
                            Syracuse had trouble scoring even 20 points a game in the finals months indoors. The cuse will have trouble getting to 20 in this game as well.

                            I like K-state by 10+
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                            • Wolf40
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 02-09-10
                              • 954

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Cuse0323
                              well some of this idiotic reasoning makes me feel better. they won't show up today for their first bowl game in their career, this is a dome team that lives in one of the snowiest, coldest places in college football yet they won't be ready. good to know.
                              it has nothing to do with the cold it has to do with exactly what you said.... first bowl game in years, inexperienced bowl coach with the pressure of being in NY for first bowl game ever. with an already medicore offense. they will press and the pressure will get to them.
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                              • aufordboy
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 11-22-06
                                • 519

                                #16
                                I really like KS St in this one
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                                • newbie
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 03-04-10
                                  • 236

                                  #17
                                  I am playing K State today as well. I think the cold weather and the run game pulls them through.
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                                  • Bostongambler
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                                    • 02-01-08
                                    • 35581

                                    #18
                                    Since everyone likes K. St. I have to say Cuse. gl
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