Oklahoma -3 @ Missouri

thebestthereis · 10-20-10, 07:24 PM

Total is 52 very easy to achieve, night game on national tv, easy over. Pound the under at gametime.

Powerhaus · 10-20-10, 07:33 PM

San Diego State ran for over 250 yards on Mizzou, @ Mizzou

Illinois also ran for 200 yards on Mizzou, @ Mizzou

What will DeMarco Murray do??? How about Landry Jones off play action as well???

Landry Jones

RATING - 146.13
YARDS - 1,791
COMP - 67.4
TOUCHDOWNS - 14
INTS - 3

pantala · 10-20-10, 07:36 PM

I am a Mizzou grad student; I've been to or watched every game this year, and I'm hitting OU with 100% of my account.

Our defense is improved? Absolutely. Holding A&M to 9 points and CU to 0 is impressive.
Our offense has looked good? Yeah, it's looked good. Our O-line is much better than it's been in a long time, and that's a very underrated aspect. We haven't been as flashy as the Chase Daniel Era but we're a better all-around team.

These things matter when you're playing a less talented team. I was at the game in San Antonio when we lost to OU by 40 two years ago.

I could see us beating OU by up to 10; it's our best chance in the last 15 years. I could also see Oklahoma winning by 20. We look good, sure; our corners are playing out of this world. My recommendation, as an avid MU fan, is to hammer Oklahoma.

Don't get fooled.

Powerhaus · 10-20-10, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by pantala

I am a Mizzou grad student; I've been to or watched every game this year, and I'm hitting OU with 100% of my account.

Our defense is improved? Absolutely. Holding A&M to 9 points and CU to 0 is impressive.
Our offense has looked good? Yeah, it's looked good. Our O-line is much better than it's been in a long time, and that's a very underrated aspect. We haven't been as flashy as the Chase Daniel Era but we're a better all-around team.

These things matter when you're playing a less talented team. I was at the game in San Antonio when we lost to OU by 40 two years ago.

I could see us beating OU by up to 10; it's our best chance in the last 15 years. I could also see Oklahoma winning by 20. We look good, sure; our corners are playing out of this world. My recommendation, as an avid MU fan, is to hammer Oklahoma.

Don't get fooled.

Thank You so much for your input Sir, it's greatly appreciated...

Bacon · 10-20-10, 07:52 PM

I agree powerhaus. Mizzou is much better than I expected them to be, but a good defense can keep them in check, and their defense is better, but ok is a step up from tex am and colorado.

Jerrod · 10-20-10, 08:27 PM

um...talking about the two years ago when ou romped mizzouri....think mu had the same time to prepare for ou which is like a week right....and bob stoops murdered their ass.....i was on mu and it sucked....just think...ou off of a bye week mu had to play...uper hand goes to ou....two beasty running backs ou....wide outs is a wash...coaches ou...ou will murder mu once again....

Powerhaus · 10-20-10, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by Jerrod

um...talking about the two years ago when ou romped mizzouri....think mu had the same time to prepare for ou which is like a week right....and bob stoops murdered their ass.....i was on mu and it sucked....just think...ou off of a bye week mu had to play...uper hand goes to ou....two beasty running backs ou....wide outs is a wash...coaches ou...ou will murder mu once again....

Agreed, thanks for the input.

Joe_Shabadoo · 10-20-10, 10:45 PM

Originally posted by Powerhaus

I don't know about you guys but I'm not letting this fishy line scare me away from taking this game. It seems like the books are trying to mindfuck us every week now, this season has been tough to cap. I would like to provide my input on this game and here what you guys have to say as well. Missouri has a nice squad this year and Gabbert is a nice player, possibly an NFL prospect, but has this team really impressed anyone this year? They haven't impressed me at all. The Tigers are 6-0, but who the **** have they played? They could easily be 4-2 if it weren't for two come from behind wins against Illinios and San Diego St (both mediocre teams). Mizzou is also a one dimensional team. Not saying the Sooners are world beaters but it's going to take one hell of an effort by Missou to knock off Oklahoma. The Sooners are very well balanced with superstars on their offense. They've played much better competition, and in my opinion, Missouri is not a better football team than Florida State or Texas! There's no reason Oklahoma wont cover this line, unless they take their foot off the gas pedal again. Square play or not, I'm going with my gut, and my gut says Oklahoma wins this one by at least 6-7 points at a minimum!!!

Well, I don't know how much stock that you put into the Sagarin ratings, but they would basically have this game as Missouri being anywhere from a 2-to-4-point favorite.

The line seems about right, and I highly doubt this line will dip to 2.5 from here on out.

jjgold · 10-20-10, 10:51 PM

Okl is not that good mean and very poorly coached and great at losing big games

gamble · 10-20-10, 10:53 PM

if you are putting your whole account on oklahoma then you shouldn't be betting, i am obviously a mizzou fan, but this is nowhere near being a sure thing for either side. mizzou's defense held a solid aTm offense to 9 points at kyle field, one of the toughest places to play anywhere. that was mizzou's defense without their best player as well, the beast DE Aldon Smith who will no doubt be a first day draft pick when he chooses to be. don't even try to give me any stats from the 2007 or 2008 seasons, different teams completely, plus this game is at mizzou, on the road is where stoops is not near as spectacular. ou on the road this year barely beat air force and barely beat cincinatti, 2 teams that aren't as good as mizzou. i'm not saying mizzou is a sure thing, but this is not going to be a blowout by any stretch

aznjeff07 · 10-20-10, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Okl is not that good mean and very poorly coached and great at losing big games

You've been on this forum for a long time and I'd expect something more intelligent from your post.
Name one team that wouldn't take Stoops if he decided he didn't want to coach at OU anymore.
Furthermore the big games that you refer to were most likely the national championship games. To even get to that many championship games requires that you win big games

WeinketoWarrick · 10-20-10, 11:03 PM

I'm in the same way. I don't care if it's square, I'm on OU.

WeinketoWarrick · 10-20-10, 11:05 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Okl is not that good mean and very poorly coached and great at losing big games

If OU isn't that good then who is good?

No wonder you're a lifetime loser. "OU isn't that good".

BigDofBA · 10-20-10, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by aznjeff07

To even get to that many championship games requires that you win big games

Obviously.

Stoops has won a national championship, 6 conference titles, produced two Heisman winners, and multiple All-American's. There is a reason his name always comes up when there is a coaching vacancy.

So absolutely destroying Mizzou a few years ago when they were the #1 team in the country headed to the title game didn't qualify as a big win? Neither did all the wins over Texas? What about those 6 Big 12 championship games he won? Stanford in the bowl game last year? Top 5 Oregon in the Holiday bowl in 2005? Washington State in the Rose Bowl?

We beat Florida State who is currently ranked #16 47-17 earlier this year. That wasn't a big game either I guess.

When you're OU, it's only a big game when you lose.

venice2222 · 10-20-10, 11:07 PM

I think OU destroys Mizzou.

AlphaOmega · 10-20-10, 11:08 PM

Mizzou all day >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Blax0r · 10-20-10, 11:13 PM

I think OU will roflstomp Mizzou; completely different levels.

For the very few sc2 players out there, it's like a diamond vs a gold.

BigDofBA · 10-20-10, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by venice2222

I think OU destroys Mizzou.

I took Texas ML last week against Nebraska and I'm an OU fan. Texas has the better players and Nebraska hadn't beaten a ranked team all year.

I keep hearing that Mizzou has a good defense this year but no one can convince me that Mizzou has a better defense than Texas, a team we have already beat.

OU could come out and lay an egg or have turnovers and Mizzou could win. With that being said, if both teams play well then OU wins by at least 7-10 points.

Mizzou is more than capable of pulling off the upset, this is a young OU team, but I don't think it's going to happen. OU will lose at A&M or Okie State.

gamble · 10-20-10, 11:21 PM

Originally posted by BigDofBA

Obviously. Stoops has won a national championship, 6 conference titles, produced two Heisman winners, and multiple All-American's. There is a reason his name always comes up when there is a coaching vacancy. So absolutely destroying Mizzou a few years ago when they were the #1 team in the country headed to the title game didn't qualify as a big win? Neither did all the wins over Texas? What about those 6 Big 12 championship games he won? Stanford in the bowl game last year? Top 5 Oregon in the Holiday bowl in 2005? Washington State in the Rose Bowl? We beat Florida State who is currently ranked #16 47-17 earlier this year. That wasn't a big game either I guess. When you're OU, it's only a big game when you lose.

stoops has won some big games, but he has also lost a lot as well, i'll try to find some numbers for you but he isn't that much of a big game coach, he is not near as good on the road either

gamble · 10-20-10, 11:24 PM

found some of stoops numbers, he is solid in big XII championships, i think thats due to the fact that the north has been down in the last decade or so.

2-5 in BCS bowl games
1-3 in BCS Championship games

stoops has also come out recently and stated that this is ou's biggest challenge this season, take that for its worth

matthewsg · 10-20-10, 11:29 PM

All depends on which OU defense shows up. The one that got after Fla St and Iowa State? Or the one that let Utah State and Cincy pile up the points?

aznjeff07 · 10-20-10, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by gamble

found some of stoops numbers, he is solid in big XII championships, i think thats due to the fact that the north has been down in the last decade or so. 2-5 in BCS bowl games 1-3 in BCS Championship games stoops has also come out recently and stated that this is ou's biggest challenge this season, take that for its worth

FL St, LSU, USC, Flor. That's 1/4....and i'll take 1/4 anyday over 0/0

gamble · 10-20-10, 11:32 PM

Originally posted by aznjeff07

FL St, LSU, USC, Flor. That's 1/4....and i'll take 1/4 anyday over 0/0

yea your going to play good teams in the national championship games, oklahoma has had some talented teams themselves though.

and who are you comparing him to with an 0-0 record?

aznjeff07 · 10-20-10, 11:36 PM

Originally posted by gamble

yea your going to play good teams in the national championship games, oklahoma has had some talented teams themselves though. and who are you comparing him to with an 0-0 record?

The majority of the coaches out there have yet to even make it to a championship game. Not pointing anyone particular out. jjgold's comment was just idiotic

gamble · 10-20-10, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by aznjeff07

The majority of the coaches out there have yet to even make it to a championship game. Not pointing anyone particular out. jjgold's comment was just idiotic

oh ok yea i didn't even read his comment, i'm not knocking stoops sure i'd take 1-3 over 0-0 any day but i would not recommend putting my whole account on ou in this game like some people here are

aznjeff07 · 10-20-10, 11:40 PM

Originally posted by gamble

oh ok yea i didn't even read his comment, i'm not knocking stoops sure i'd take 1-3 over 0-0 any day but i would not recommend putting my whole account on ou in this game like some people here are

1/4...like my comment above it's been fl st, lsu, usc, and florida...sorry it just bugs me bc 1/3 is wrong

gamble · 10-20-10, 11:50 PM

my bad i'm saying 1-3 as in 1 win and 3 losses, not 1 of 3

BigDofBA · 10-21-10, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by gamble

stoops has won some big games, but he has also lost a lot as well, i'll try to find some numbers for you but he isn't that much of a big game coach, he is not near as good on the road either

OK. Here are some stats for Pinkel.

6-23 vs. all ranked teams (21%)
2-12 vs. top 10 (14%)
1-7 vs. top 5 (12.5%)

His only win against a top 5 team was the year they beat Kansas. That's the same year OU destroyed Mizzou twice including that route in the Big 12 title game.

So uh yeah, I'll take Stoops, his national championship, and his 6 conference titles over anything Pinkel has ever done.

I don't feel like looking it up right now but Stoops is well over 50% against top ranked teams.

craigpb · 10-21-10, 12:39 AM

Only thing that matters is this Saturday, and who plays better. The fact is that Oklahoma has some weaknesses and eventually some team will exploit them. I expect Missouri to be ready at home.

No coincidences · 10-21-10, 12:44 AM

I don't get why this line opened at 3, and I sure as hell don't get why it's staying there.

Something's fishy.

thechaoz · 10-21-10, 12:49 AM

I just don't understand how OK is #1 right now.

Jonah · 10-21-10, 01:00 AM

I like Ok, but Mizzou has looked as good as anyone the last two weeks...And they are home.

Kubilak · 10-21-10, 01:03 AM

Lack of attrition.. outside of Oregon there's nobody else worthy of the #1 ranking until after the LSU vs. Auburn matchup. Winner of that game should be considered the best team in the country based on their body of work.

As much as the eyeball test makes me want to play OU in this game, there's just so much history for disappointment there. Big Game Bob as he's sarcastically referred to isn't the best game manager in pressure situations. That being said I don't know if @ Mizzou could be considered a pressure cooker.

gamble · 10-21-10, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by BigDofBA

OK. Here are some stats for Pinkel. 6-23 vs. all ranked teams (21%) 2-12 vs. top 10 (14%) 1-7 vs. top 5 (12.5%) His only win against a top 5 team was the year they beat Kansas. That's the same year OU destroyed Mizzou twice including that route in the Big 12 title game. So uh yeah, I'll take Stoops, his national championship, and his 6 conference titles over anything Pinkel has ever done. I don't feel like looking it up right now but Stoops is well over 50% against top ranked teams.

haha please point out to me where i stated pinkel was even a decent coach, to be honest i'm not a big fan of pinkel, he's a good recruiter but that's about it. and ou did not destroy mizzou twice that year, we should have won the first game that year.

anyways i don't think coaching is going to be the difference in this game, it comes down to which ou shows up and if mizzou can play how they did last week, which was some top notch football