Give Denard Robinson his Heisman

**Domer** · 09-17-10, 12:42 AM

I was at the game, aside from the huge run he wasn't impressive. And his passing? Laughable. With Crist out of the game, Michigan outscored us 21-0. With Crist in the game, Michigan was demolished 24-7. He wasn't even the best QB on the field.

**Smoke** · 09-17-10, 12:45 AM

crist isn't shit though...

robinson throws darts and runs the ball, if he's healthy he's a contender, watch..

**Sunde91** · 09-17-10, 02:31 AM

Just like Dennis Dixon 2007

**Deuce** · 09-17-10, 02:33 AM

Originally posted by Domer

I was at the game, aside from the huge run he wasn't impressive. And his passing? Laughable. With Crist out of the game, Michigan outscored us 21-0. With Crist in the game, Michigan was demolished 24-7. He wasn't even the best QB on the field.

Please...

Crist didn't do shit. He was shut down. Guy throws a hail mary 30 yds out of the endzone. Take your homer cap off. Pryor is def front runner right now. Robinson second.

**Doc JS** · 09-17-10, 03:03 AM

I agree he's the front runner...but a LONG way to go! Injury or a couple Michigan loses and he doesn't win the Heisman...

Doc

**MendozaLine** · 09-17-10, 03:55 AM

I remember Michigan started out 2-0 last year and Forcier was touted as the next big thing. Lets wait a few more weeks before we crown Robinson and Michigan.

**jjgold** · 09-17-10, 05:34 AM

He should win it easy if he does not get hurt

**Fishhead** · 09-17-10, 06:09 AM

At years end, he will probably not even be a TOP FIVE QB in the country, let alone the best player in the country.

**firedawg** · 09-17-10, 06:17 AM

Originally posted by Fishhead

At years end, he will probably not even be a TOP FIVE QB in the country, let alone the best player in the country.

**Fishhead** · 09-17-10, 06:21 AM

Hell, he may end up not even being a TOP THREE QB in his own conference.....................

**firedawg** · 09-17-10, 06:23 AM

rich rods offense is taylor made for this kid.... he will shine all year.

**Fishhead** · 09-17-10, 06:24 AM

Originally posted by firedawg

rich rods offense is taylor made for this kid.... he will shine all year.

IOWA might take his fuking head off.............he could also ramble for 160 yds.

However, the former is more apt to occur.

**firedawg** · 09-17-10, 06:50 AM

those white boys cant catch his ass..

**whatsgood5** · 09-17-10, 06:55 AM

Dude's a beast, most exciting player to watch IMO. I would certainly call him the Heisman frontrunner at this point, but a lot can and probably will change in the next ten or so weeks...

**ngates815** · 09-17-10, 07:05 AM

Originally posted by firedawg

rich rods offense is taylor made for this kid.... he will shine all year.

Exactly...And I hope he does shine all year, he easily makes Michigan one of the top teams to watch.

**koby25** · 09-17-10, 07:16 AM

Dude is pretty fast. But he want win the Heisman.

**AMBlai01** · 09-17-10, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by Smoke

I know it's still early but Robinson is clearly a front runner for the heisman.. This kid is a fukkin beast.. If he can stay healthy i don't see why he can't get the trophy.. Dude is the second coming of michael vick minus the dogfighting.. The big ten ain't used to seeing that spread offense and michigan is bringin it this year with robinson.. He's a perfect fit.. Give that boy his Heisman

End of thread....can we hold off just a little bit on this one.

**Fishhead** · 09-17-10, 07:41 AM

AGAIN, he will be very fortunate to even be a TOP THREE QB in his own conference by seasons end..............

For goodness sakes, he just rumbled over two sub-par teams.............stop already.

**pavyracer** · 09-17-10, 07:44 AM

I will wait after he plays Iowa and Ohio St before I crown him.

**DeluxeLiner** · 09-17-10, 07:55 AM

Whether or not he will end up being a heisman contender i think he will be fun to watch in weeks to come (not really against UMass)

**Smoke** · 09-17-10, 09:14 AM

Originally posted by AMBlai01

End of thread....can we hold off just a little bit on this one.

Not really ready to hold off.. it's never too early to talk about the heisman especially if betting lines are up. Lot's of value here if the kid can stay healthy

**Smoke** · 09-17-10, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by Fishhead

At years end, he will probably not even be a TOP FIVE QB in the country, let alone the best player in the country.

Now that's just crazy fish

**Jimmy Proffett** · 09-17-10, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by Fishhead

At years end, he will probably not even be a TOP FIVE QB in the country, let alone the best player in the country.

I agree with this. He's going to hit a "freshman wall" just like Forcier did last year. I'd take Pryor, Kaepernick, Locker, Jerrod Johnson, and Masoli over Denard right now (just in the forum of QB's that can scramble, let alone Mallett, Keenum, etc....). When Robinson shows me he can make decisions and fire a 20 yard sideline route then I'll change my mind.

**Deuce** · 09-17-10, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by Jimmy Proffett

I agree with this. He's going to hit a "freshman wall" just like Forcier did last year. I'd take Pryor, Kaepernick, Locker, Jerrod Johnson, and Masoli over Denard right now (just in the forum of QB's that can scramble, let alone Mallett, Keenum, etc....). When Robinson shows me he can make decisions and fire a 20 yard sideline route then I'll change my mind.

Decisions like marching down the field down with 3 minutes to go in South Bend and scoring the game winning TD? Interesting.

**kmarinouofm** · 09-17-10, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

IOWA might take his fuking head off.............he could also ramble for 160 yds.

However, the former is more apt to occur.

isnt it great that Iowa is actually a decent team now =)

it gives people like FishHead the chance to talk trash about the Real teams in the Big Ten.. teams like Michigan.. and Ohio St.. and that's about it..

**Domer** · 09-17-10, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by Deuce

Decisions like marching down the field down with 3 minutes to go in South Bend and scoring the game winning TD? Interesting.

they had one TD drive in the entire 2nd half against just an above average defense.

they scored 21 out of 28 points when Crist was on the sideline (the stadium was quiet and the defense looked completely uninspired/lost). ND fan or not, those are the facts. I've seen a lot of QBs at ND stadium...the kid wasn't particularly good at throwing it and was a good runner, but no pat white. and even acknowledging the fact that Crist is occasionally awful on those deep throws/end zone throws, he still looked far more impressive behind center than Denard. ND wins that game by 10 if Crist isn't poked in the eye. if you had a field goal kicker who isn't complete garbage, the original ND -4 line is right on target.

I am all for defending your team, but from an objective standpoint, your team is going have problems against legit opponents. and that's not even discussing your porous defense.

**daprospecta** · 09-17-10, 01:14 PM

I haven't seen anybody as dynamic as he is since Reggie Bush. I remember when I was on the sideline when we played them in the coliseum and he put a move on my teammate that made me say wow for a long time. Haven't seen a player do a move like that other than Barry Sanders. But yea, no other player is close to what he is doing and I'm a Mallet homer.

**hubie69** · 09-17-10, 01:15 PM

Christ man, he's played ND and Uconn. Might as well be playing against HS football teams. Lets see what happens when he gets into the Big-10 conf schedule and plays IA, Wisc, OSU, and well shit, the rest of the big 10 too. Those 3 alone will eat his lunch and I don't think there's anyway at all he stays healthy the whole season.

To quote from resevoir dogs: "Lets not start sucking each others d*cks just yet"

**kmarinouofm** · 09-17-10, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by Domer

they had one TD drive in the entire 2nd half against just an above average defense.

they scored 21 out of 28 points when Crist was on the sideline (the stadium was quiet and the defense looked completely uninspired/lost). ND fan or not, those are the facts. I've seen a lot of QBs at ND stadium...the kid wasn't particularly good at throwing it and was a good runner, but no pat white. and even acknowledging the fact that Crist is occasionally awful on those deep throws/end zone throws, he still looked far more impressive behind center than Denard. ND wins that game by 10 if Crist isn't poked in the eye. if you had a field goal kicker who isn't complete garbage, the original ND -4 line is right on target.

I am all for defending your team, but from an objective standpoint, your team is going have problems against legit opponents. and that's not even discussing your porous defense.

RIch Rod is a funny duck man.. they had the lead and sorta just parked the bus.. what you can't take away was how a what was supposed to be an awful defense kept the team in the game all 4 quarters..

WHen Michigan Needed to score they did boss.. Big Blue came out big the 1st half and shut up the Irish and South Bend really quick....

They played grab ass the whole 2nd half.. and when it came down to it.. game on the line.. Michigan got what it needed..

If Michigan needs any improvement.. it will be in the Secondary and with Maturity issues..

this team will only get better with time.. and they are just finding themselves right now.. but all the tools are there to create a real shit storm in the Big Ten..

**kmarinouofm** · 09-17-10, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by hubie69

Christ man, he's played ND and Uconn. Might as well be playing against HS football teams. Lets see what happens when he gets into the Big-10 conf schedule and plays IA, Wisc, OSU, and well shit, the rest of the big 10 too. Those 3 alone will eat his lunch and I don't think there's anyway at all he stays healthy the whole season.

To quote from resevoir dogs: "Lets not start sucking each others d*cks just yet"

Listen i couldn't agree more with you.. its all very premature..

however Wisco? should eat them up.. i mean San Jose state gave them a game..

Iowa? in the Big House.. We can create some serious issues for them..

Ohio St will be a match up no matter who the QB is..

like Woody Hayes Once Cried out.. "it's Michigan!!.. It's MICHIGAN!!"

**Domer** · 09-17-10, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by kmarinouofm

WHen Michigan Needed to score they did boss.. Big Blue came out big the 1st half and shut up the Irish and South Bend really quick....

ok, now THAT is a homer post that is also dumb.

ND's first drive was right down the field for a touchdown. 13 plays, 71 yards, Crist running it right down your D-lines throat. Michigan's first possession was 16 yards, then a punt. ND got the ball back, and a true freshman goes into the game because Crist was poked in the eye by one of the neanderthals that Michigan is allowed to recruit. The first throw of said true freshman is an INT deep in our territory...Michigan converts it for a TD. It's 7-7.

If Crist is in that game, could be 14-0 before Michigan's 2nd possession. Michigan didn't "come out big" by any single stretch of the imagination.

Then in the 2nd half when Crist was back in the game, they annihilated Michigan both on the offensive and the defensive side of the ball, until the final possession of the game. "Parked the bus." Riiiiiight.

**hubie69** · 09-17-10, 01:39 PM

however Wisco? should eat them up.. i mean San Jose state gave them a game..

What game did you watch? The score was low but it was deceiving and that includes a garbage time TD by sjsu.
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Iowa? in the Big House.. We can create some serious issues for them..

What issues might that be? The mich D has serious, SERIOUS issues and IA's offense is better than Michigans. Granted, it's been impressive what your QB has done so far, but talk to me after you're 2 weeks into the big 10 schedule IF he's not broken by then.

Ohio St will be a match up no matter who the QB is..

I agree, OSU is going to roll you guys.

You going to the IA game? I've got tix and we're driving up for the game. Going to be a hell of a fun weekend.

**Fishhead** · 09-17-10, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by Smoke

Now that's just crazy fish

How and why is this crazy??????

For one thing, he has a very good chance to get hurt.

Secondly, there are plenty of QB's around the nation that could garnish more Heisman votes than this kid at seasons end.

Hell, the kid from NCST is more deserving RIGHT NOW than DROB

**A Mayland** · 09-17-10, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by Domer

ok, now THAT is a homer post that is also dumb.

ND's first drive was right down the field for a touchdown. 13 plays, 71 yards, Crist running it right down your D-lines throat. Michigan's first possession was 16 yards, then a punt. ND got the ball back, and a true freshman goes into the game because Crist was poked in the eye by one of the neanderthals that Michigan is allowed to recruit. The first throw of said true freshman is an INT deep in our territory...Michigan converts it for a TD. It's 7-7.

If Crist is in that game, could be 14-0 before Michigan's 2nd possession. Michigan didn't "come out big" by any single stretch of the imagination.

Then in the 2nd half when Crist was back in the game, they annihilated Michigan both on the offensive and the defensive side of the ball, until the final possession of the game. "Parked the bus." Riiiiiight.

A. If Anyone that gets 500+ yds of offense isn't impressive to you then you are impossible to please. And it was diversified not one side running/passing. 244 passing and 258 rushing not too shabby
B. Crist has no impact of what the defense does so the fact that Michigan scored 21 points while he was getting a hair out of his eye has no impact on ND's defense
C. Christ is not better than Denard Robinson...you're a fool if you think so