On it thanks mike
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There appeared to me to be a play posted for the readers and tailers on UAB -14 with a small write-up right? I did not see mention for everyone who played UAB from these 2 posts to cancel or buy off of the wager. Also Mike IF I post a play such as Pitt -3 thats the line I use for the thread record, not the closing line of 3.5 which some books had. Just a few questions BOL with your plays today!
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My thoughts exactly. Based on this:There appeared to me to be a play posted for the readers and tailers on UAB -14 with a small write-up right? I did not see mention for everyone who played UAB from these 2 posts to cancel or buy off of the wager. Also Mike IF I post a play such as Pitt -3 thats the line I use for the thread record, not the closing line of 3.5 which some books had. Just a few questions BOL with your plays today!
IMO, this seems to say "of all my plays, these two are the strongest." After UAB lost, to come back and say that this actually means "don't play UAB, only play these two" appears a bit disingenuous at best. Not to mention most "pros" (using this term lightly here) that release plays do not come back at a later time and say "don't play my earlier release"....if anything a pro might say "sorry guys, if you've already played UAB, bet the other way for the same amount and lose the juice, apologies for my change of mind on that one, it is NOT a play now."
As far as releasing a play at +3 and then counting it a winner rather than a push because some books had +3.5...well...that's a page right out of the playbook of Pags and Brandon Lang...two guys you don't want to be associated with if you want to be taken seriously.
Bottom line though at the end of the day: pimike provides these picks for free, so as the saying goes: you get what you pay for; But he's old enough and smart enough to not engage in shenanigans like this right off the bat here at the beginning of the season. It's early in the season, do the right thing and move on. And from now on, if pimike or anyone else for that matter emails out "releases" of plays, the line at time of release is how it's graded, this is rudimentary.Last edited by Hoja Verdes; 09-04-10, 11:37 AM.Comment -
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Wisconsin/unlv
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hey a win is a win!!!!!!!!
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BOL Mike but I do not like the looks of this!Comment -
Thats what im talkin bout!!!Comment -
girllilly
100% agree!So, you dropped UAB after commenting on the game when it was tied & now don't count it. Looks like you'll "claim" a win with the hook, but showed +3. You have to many inconsistencies for myself just from this thread and this is day 1 of the college football season. I've read enough of your thread to say, good luck but I'll avoid your double-speak at all costs. Spin it how you want, but most folks will take it that you lost twice Thursday evenig.
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Wow, huge credibility hit with this thread, mike.
Or maybe this is typical??
People have already called out the inconsistencies. Didn't think a plays thread was supposed to be smoke and mirrors; and if that email is legit, your "actual plays" still don't even match that, so the point of this thread is beyond me.
Are we supposed to like not call him on his BS because he will start banging his head like Rain Man until Willie Bee comes
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The sad thing is that he had any credibility to start with
He even said in one of his older threads that he doesn't care about the odds and plays the teams he thinks will win regardless. How anyone can still follow him after that is just beyond me. When (politely) asked about that and things like EV and record keeping he went all defensive ('I just post winners now GTFO') and theatened to close the thread which he eventually did. FWIW he seemed to think that +EV means +Money lol.
Just look at his plays that he gives out. They usually consist of one word: the team's name. No write up, no mention of the current line/odds, no nothing. There was me thinking that it's incredibly tough to win at sports betting, that you can't have enough accounts to always get the best price and that 95% of gamblers lose longterm (probably more). But no, just bet all the teams he posts at your one and only book and make money (he calls himself MONEY MAKER in his emails).
Also the most important thing when trying to decide if you should tail someone are his thoughts on the game in question. If you know anything about samplesizes than you also know that they are almost never big enough and shortterm results are completely irrelevant and should NEVER be used for judging a capper. The only thing that I can really base my decision on are write-ups. But unfortunately nobody really does that in this forum. Instead you get nonsense like 'man you really know your stuff', 'let's make some moniezzz!!11!' or 'let's kill the books!' after a couple of winners. And hordes of fanboys as well. Real discussion = zero for the most part.
I mean it's just baffling that people are wanking themselves silly over his one-liners. All the signs you need to avoid someone are there and he couldn't make it any more obvious (the word 'system' alone should be enough). He even chases his losses ('Get your money back bets'
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Fully expecting to be called a hater now like in so many other threads. But let me tell you: I've never played one of his bets but I can be certain that he's longterm loser. You don't even need to be a sportsbetting guru to see that. A bit of common sense is enough.Last edited by blackf1re; 09-05-10, 11:11 AM.Comment -
Amazing how many people are giving there opinion on what I played or didn't play. Lol
1-2 day's in and the haters already out. If you don't like my plays or thoughts no need to flood my thread with your hate just move on. You are only showing your hate for me. Besides its my thread, no?Comment -
'Hater'. No surprise here really. Which reason for hating do I have exactly? I never tailed you so haven't won or lost money because of you. And you do realize that you could prevent all that fuss (which surprisingly comes up in each of your threads) if you'd just answer some of the (critical) questions. But your typical responses (like this one I'm quoting right now) show that you obviously have no interest in doing that. It's your thread, yes. I still think it's important that other posters get warned about idiots like you and frankly I even think the mods here should do something about it. It's one thing being completely oblivious to simple concepts as value, samplesize, line shopping and the basics of sports betting but obviously people who just have started and are looking for picks will follow you because you have a certain reputation and I don't think that's good for a forum like SBR.Last edited by blackf1re; 09-05-10, 11:32 AM.Comment -
Fade or tail! !!
All other comments are useless and the name calling just shows your hate.Comment -
anything today mike good luckComment -
there wouldn't be any hate if this thread was where it belonged - sports promotions and links area?Comment -
Any of you guys noticed the SMU/Tech line? Looks like 60% on Tech but the is line coming back down. 12.5 now.Comment -
Birds of a feather.....
PIMIKE, JOHNNY D'MARCO, JEFF ALLEN, ETAL.
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Telling indeed.The sad thing is that he had any credibility to start with
He even said in one of his older threads that he doesn't care about the odds and plays the teams he thinks will win regardless. How anyone can still follow him after that is just beyond me. When (politely) asked about that and things like EV and record keeping he went all defensive ('I just post winners now GTFO') and theatened to close the thread which he eventually did. FWIW he seemed to think that +EV means +Money lol.
Just look at his plays that he gives out. They usually consist of one word: the team's name. No write up, no mention of the current line/odds, no nothing. There was me thinking that it's incredibly tough to win at sports betting, that you can't have enough accounts to always get the best price and that 95% of gamblers lose longterm (probably more). But no, just bet all the teams he posts at your one and only book and make money (he calls himself MONEY MAKER in his emails).
Also the most important thing when trying to decide if you should tail someone are his thoughts on the game in question. If you know anything about samplesizes than you also know that they are almost never big enough and shortterm results are completely irrelevant and should NEVER be used for judging a capper. The only thing that I can really base my decision on are write-ups. But unfortunately nobody really does that in this forum. Instead you get nonsense like 'man you really know your stuff', 'let's make some moniezzz!!11!' or 'let's kill the books!' after a couple of winners. And hordes of fanboys as well. Real discussion = zero for the most part.
I mean it's just baffling that people are wanking themselves silly over his one-liners. All the signs you need to avoid someone are there and he couldn't make it any more obvious (the word 'system' alone should be enough). He even chases his losses ('Get your money back bets')
Fully expecting to be called a hater now like in so many other threads. But let me tell you: I've never played one of his bets but I can be certain that he's longterm loser. You don't even need to be a sportsbetting guru to see that. A bit of common sense is enough.
Is pmike just a simpleton or does he have ADD??
He's also always talking about the end of the world and Jesus or something..
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Lets get back to what this thread was intended for.
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"Lets get back to what this thread was intended for"....
Yeah, Self-agrandment and platatudes... that's what this thread
was intended for. No need to answer for pulling a loser from the tote board.
Follow the mendacity or he'll take his thread home and hide under
the pillow.
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Hi PiMIke, what's your record with this thread if you don't mind me asking? I cant really tell from back tracking because I dpnt know what's an official play.Comment -
wow, people are such assholes. if you got question or think the guy is not legit just go somewhere else. no body is forcing you to read this threadComment -
Damn so much hate on here, when i first joined SBR people were begging pimike for his picks, how quickly they forget. Keep doing what u do Mike, i look forward to following them winnings picks this season.Comment
It freaking bailed out my Toledo +16 play.
