ONE Play I LOVE --- MARSHALL + 29

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  • nobs
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    • 08-31-09
    • 4216

    #1
    ONE Play I LOVE --- MARSHALL + 29
    I Have just made my first college football play of the season, and I am pretty certain this one will cash.

    The Marshall Thundering Herd are getting 29 points against Ohio State. Now no doubt, the Buckeyes will probably win this game, but they wont win it by anywhere near this many points.

    The Thundering Herd are a much much better team than anyone realizes, this is a school with a history of having some really good football teams. In fact, they had an unbeaten season not that long ago. Of course they have fallen off after Randy Moss and Chad Pennington, but this is still a very good team and Ohio State isnt winning this game by 30 points.

    Marshall is returning 14 starters from last years team which finished 7-6 including Beating a pretty good Ohio U team in the bowl game. Thats Ohio University beating Ohio State. They are returning 7 starters on both sides of the ball. On offense QB Brian Anderson returns. Anderson is a very capable QB as last year he had 2646 yards and 14 TD's Passing.

    Also, in the Backfied Marshall is returning two great running backs. Both Martin Ward and Edwards can and will run the ball against this Ohio State defense.

    On Defense, the Thundering Herd are strong enough to slow the Buckeyes down. The Buckeyes will score for sure, and I wouldnt be surprised if they score 27-31 points, but The Herds defense is strong enough that the Buckeyes sure wont be scoring at will, and will have to work for every point they get.

    Returning on Defense are Delvin Johnson, Brandon Bullock, and Johnny Jones who average out at 6'4 and 330 Pounds. So this is a pretty nice sized defensive unit that the Thundering Herd are running out there. Also returning is defensive Back Dequan Bembey who recorded 53 tackles last year. In all, the Thundering Herd have 40 returning players on the team this year. The only major loss this team had was Darius Marshall.

    On the other side, the Buckeyees have lost Jim Cordle, Thadeus Gibson, Worthington, Spitler, Coleman, Russell, Petrey, and Thoma.

    I am not saying the Buckeyes arent good. They are. But this team lost some good defenders from last years team, and I think it will take a while for the Chemistry to jell. This may turn into another great defensive unit, but it will take time, especially considering that on average, this is an undersized defensive unit.

    Another factor in this game may be the look ahead factor. I have to wwonder just how seriously the Buckeyes are even taking the Thundering Herd considring that Ohio State plays Miami in their second game. You have to believe that very little prep time has been dedicated to Marshall, and mush more to the Miami game.

    On the other hand, you know that Marshall hasnt overlooked Ohio State. They have been preparing for this game since the beginning of practice. Will the Buckeyes even try to win this game by 30 ? or if they get a comfortable 17-20 point lead late 3rd quarter, will they rest and begin preparing for Miami ?

    Who knows, but I am confident that they couldnt cover 29 even if they give it 100%, which they wont. This is one of those game where the true line is 17-20 and the linesmakers have bumped it up 10 more points knowing full well that every Tom, Dick, and Harry is going to pound the Buckeyes at any price.

    Why should the linesmakers let Tom, Dick, and Harry have Ohio State -17 when they will bet it just as quickly when the line is Ohio State -30 ?

    Ohio State isnt that good and Marshall isnt that bad and 29 points is way too many here.
  • fishmonger
    SBR MVP
    • 12-31-08
    • 1492

    #2
    was looking at this one too. Utah State is also a capable dog. Lots of starters back for utah state and oklahoma has a new d-line. It's my favorite big dog play.
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    • SoonerBS
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 08-26-08
      • 518

      #3
      Originally posted by fishmonger
      was looking at this one too. Utah State is also a capable dog. Lots of starters back for utah state and oklahoma has a new d-line. It's my favorite big dog play.

      I wasn't going to post anything, but I can't let it slide.

      Fishy, Utah State COULD be a bet that covers, in the same sense that any bet has a chance to cover, but I HAVE to ask you some questions to see if you know what you are posting about or if you are just posting what you think you know.

      -- How new is Oklahoma's d-line? Would you say they are replacing everybody? One player? Two? Define new.

      -- Is Stoops pulling these new players out of his ass this season, or do they have experience? How talented are they? Were they highly recruited, or did they perform for the Glee Club last season?

      -- How highly regarded is the Oklahoma defensive line by people in the "know" this season? Are they being wrote up as being possibly one of the best lines in the conference, or are writers saying that Oklahoma is destined to have a long season because of their lack of talent and experience?

      I'd just like to hear your thoughts on these questions if you get time. You see, I want to respect you, but I have now read two posts of yours today that make statements that sound like fact, or it is a statement based on a "feeling" you are having. I just want to know if I can credit you as a poster who really knows what they are posting about, or if you are pulling this stuff out of your ass. Can you enlighten me?

      Thank you for your time and cooperation.
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      • Darkside Magick
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 05-28-10
        • 12638

        #4
        it is actully a great play, being a ohio state alum.. tressel dont run up the score on teams plus the first game they have play, the team is flat!

        ps i have already place my bet on this one ..this is too easy
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        • Ratard
          SBR Rookie
          • 07-11-10
          • 15

          #5
          20point OHST win sounds par. Marshall is a solid team.
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          • fishmonger
            SBR MVP
            • 12-31-08
            • 1492

            #6
            Two I would consider to be NEW. Old would be all of them. Three would be veteran. I guess i made it seem like all of them are new. my bad. I know that two are very good. The replacements are a true soph. and a junior that has 5 starts. Maybe I should of said less experienced? Utah State has only lost the center and has 91 career starts between the rest of the o-line. I would consider them veteran and experienced. I would say that veteran players "as a unit" vs two new lineman that were highly touted and two studs an edge to oklahoma, but not to much.
            Utah also returns 8 on defense and offense. The one thing that concerns me would be the loss of Turbin to ACL, he's not going to play, but the back-up is a senior that had 6 starts. The qb is a very capable runner that threw the ball well throughout the season.

            Looking at last years schedule Utah state played to their competition in all the games. Starting off the season at utah and taxas am were alot for them to handle but they got through it. Losing by 18 to Utah and Losing by 8 to Texas am. And you know how good Texas am is at home. Byu was a close game for three quaters and the score does not do the game justice. I don't know how they lost to NMST?? Kept it close to nevada and fresno. Losing at the island is acceptable and kept it close to boise until late in the game due to lost of momentum. And winning a shootout with Idaho which wasn't a bad team. They ended up with an ATS 8-3 and 5-0 as an away dog and 2-0 as a home fav.

            These are my angles on why i like the game and sorry if I seem like I disrespected your sooners. I just like how everyone is on Oklahoma as a brand name team and hating on Utah St because they are not. Your sooners are very good and they should kick the shit out of this team but I don't think they will kick 32+ points of shit out of them.

            And the sooners could look ahead to the next week against FSU.
            I don't listen to sports writers analysis of things so I don't know if they are going to be great on the d-line or not, according to them.
            Last edited by fishmonger; 08-18-10, 12:44 AM.
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            • fishmonger
              SBR MVP
              • 12-31-08
              • 1492

              #7
              As for my other post, it is just a feeling that I have. There are no logical reasons to take UNLV or Hawaii as big home dogs but when everyone is buying I want to be the one who is selling. I liked wisconsin at first but everyone else liking them makes me uneasy. But I like Hawaii just because I knew everyone is on USC. And when the majority likes a team vegas cashes.
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              • bmsOHST11
                SBR Rookie
                • 08-26-08
                • 42

                #8
                Jut curious how is OSU's defense undersized?

                I will be at the game, about to start my sr yr @tOSU and do not expect OSU to win by more than 3 scores... but some of your analysis of OSU is pretty off.... and OSU WILL NOT BE OVERLOOKING MARSHALL!

                I dont know if you remember the last debacle when the herd rolled into Columbus, but it took a long fg by Nug to win a nail biter... everyone knows football in this area, Huntington is right down the road... Everyone ios talking about this game. Not to mention it is the first thurs. night game @ the shoe so the place will be rocking. I would stay away from this game either way even though I think 29 is far too much.
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                • SoonerBS
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 08-26-08
                  • 518

                  #9
                  Originally posted by fishmonger
                  Two I would consider to be NEW. Old would be all of them. Three would be veteran. I guess i made it seem like all of them are new. my bad. I know that two are very good. The replacements are a true soph. and a junior that has 5 starts. Maybe I should of said less experienced? Utah State has only lost the center and has 91 career starts between the rest of the o-line. I would consider them veteran and experienced. I would say that veteran players "as a unit" vs two new lineman that were highly touted and two studs an edge to oklahoma, but not to much.
                  Utah also returns 8 on defense and offense. The one thing that concerns me would be the loss of Turbin to ACL, he's not going to play, but the back-up is a senior that had 6 starts. The qb is a very capable runner that threw the ball well throughout the season.

                  Looking at last years schedule Utah state played to their competition in all the games. Starting off the season at utah and taxas am were alot for them to handle but they got through it. Losing by 18 to Utah and Losing by 8 to Texas am. And you know how good Texas am is at home. Byu was a close game for three quaters and the score does not do the game justice. I don't know how they lost to NMST?? Kept it close to nevada and fresno. Losing at the island is acceptable and kept it close to boise until late in the game due to lost of momentum. And winning a shootout with Idaho which wasn't a bad team. They ended up with an ATS 8-3 and 5-0 as an away dog and 2-0 as a home fav.

                  These are my angles on why i like the game and sorry if I seem like I disrespected your sooners. I just like how everyone is on Oklahoma as a brand name team and hating on Utah St because they are not. Your sooners are very good and they should kick the shit out of this team but I don't think they will kick 32+ points of shit out of them.

                  And the sooners could look ahead to the next week against FSU.
                  I don't listen to sports writers analysis of things so I don't know if they are going to be great on the d-line or not, according to them.
                  I'm not playing the game at all because you have two teams here that are both very good at covering ATS -- Utah State at anytime and Oklahoma at home. I want to personally play Oklahoma every time they play at home this season because they are that good at covering the spread. However, Utah State has been an ATS honey, so I am passing on this game.
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                  • nobs
                    Restricted User
                    • 08-31-09
                    • 4216

                    #10
                    Originally posted by bmsOHST11
                    Jut curious how is OSU's defense undersized?

                    I will be at the game, about to start my sr yr @tOSU and do not expect OSU to win by more than 3 scores... but some of your analysis of OSU is pretty off.... and OSU WILL NOT BE OVERLOOKING MARSHALL!

                    I dont know if you remember the last debacle when the herd rolled into Columbus, but it took a long fg by Nug to win a nail biter... everyone knows football in this area, Huntington is right down the road... Everyone ios talking about this game. Not to mention it is the first thurs. night game @ the shoe so the place will be rocking. I would stay away from this game either way even though I think 29 is far too much.
                    Ok ur probably right about all that. I cant say that OSU is overlooking Marshall for sure, I cant know that. I am just saying its hard for young kids to really care a lot about a game that every says they are going to win by 30. They expect Marshall to be an easy game and they know the Miami game will be big.

                    I am just saying these are 20 year old kids, they know they should give 100% to every opponent but its only natural to start believing the hype. You know , start thinking Marshall will be an easy slaughter and just really be focused on the Miami game. I dont know thats the case but its just one more reason I would never lay 30 points on a team especially when they have a big game the next week because we dont know if they even care to win by 30, they just win by 14 and they will be happy.
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                    • fishmonger
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-31-08
                      • 1492

                      #11
                      Originally posted by SoonerBS
                      I'm not playing the game at all because you have two teams here that are both very good at covering ATS -- Utah State at anytime and Oklahoma at home. I want to personally play Oklahoma every time they play at home this season because they are that good at covering the spread. However, Utah State has been an ATS honey, so I am passing on this game.
                      Fair enough. So do you respect me now or am I still pulling things out of my ass? I like bouncing everyone's ideas off one another to see what angles everyone has on the games. I am not here to stir things up. We are all here to beat the books and become some what friends. Can I consider you a friend? BTW i like your UAB FAU under and will be tailing that pick.
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                      • SoonerBS
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 08-26-08
                        • 518

                        #12
                        Originally posted by fishmonger
                        Fair enough. So do you respect me now or am I still pulling things out of my ass? I like bouncing everyone's ideas off one another to see what angles everyone has on the games. I am not here to stir things up. We are all here to beat the books and become some what friends. Can I consider you a friend? BTW i like your UAB FAU under and will be tailing that pick.
                        Anyone who has an avatar reference to one of the best movies ever as his avatar can be my friend, Fishy . . . .
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                        • NostraDanUS
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 12-02-09
                          • 665

                          #13
                          Taking the under on this game

                          Really love this game to go under the number.
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                          • dcb11
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 01-23-07
                            • 849

                            #14
                            Nobs,

                            Great write up and plenty of points leaning towards Marshall and with the fact that Ohio St. has Miami on deck make Marshall the play at +29 as Ohio St. with any double digit lead may start pulling their starter's out mid/late third quarter to early fourth quarter to prevent any injuries for their upcoming game they CAN'T afford to lose. Marshall has 7 offensive and 7 defensive players returning add experience which should lead to at least 17+ points. I do believe Ohio State may come close to covering but see them playing a lot of new faces in the second half while Marshall will still be playing their starters.

                            MARSHALL 20
                            OHIO STATE 45
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                            • Terrapin Station
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-05-10
                              • 2583

                              #15
                              Like this play a lot too...
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                              • mtneer1212
                                SBR MVP
                                • 06-22-08
                                • 4993

                                #16
                                Marshall has a new coach as well --- Doc Holliday, former Fla and West Va offensive coor and asst coach
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                                • dcb11
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 01-23-07
                                  • 849

                                  #17
                                  I should have added that the OVER 47 as a play as well.
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                                  • NBAwinner
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 03-20-10
                                    • 249

                                    #18
                                    good luck i love it too
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                                    • nobs
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 08-31-09
                                      • 4216

                                      #19
                                      Nobs first play of the season crashes and burns
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                                      • ngates815
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 12-01-09
                                        • 13845

                                        #20
                                        haha...Hopefully it wasn't for much. Did Marshall end up scoring any TD's besides that blocked FG?
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                                        • PeePee
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 10-08-09
                                          • 619

                                          #21
                                          Season is long... GL, nobs. I remember your "One play I love..." plays were $$ last yr.
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                                          • ehp6737
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-11-08
                                            • 4185

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by jaythegreat
                                            nice pick loser
                                            another tough guy behind a computer, just what SBR needs
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                                            • Aristocles
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-29-10
                                              • 1015

                                              #23
                                              Marshall players looked like a mid-level 1AA team- talent wise. I thought that Marshall would stay within 28 points but was quite wrong. Next time I'll look closer at personnel.

                                              Only $11, so no worries. . .
                                              Last edited by Aristocles; 09-03-10, 01:41 PM.
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                                              • xxdjstriderxx
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-25-08
                                                • 4740

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by jaythegreat
                                                nice pick loser

                                                just because you tailed and lost, or faded and won doesnt mean you need to bash the op

                                                he put together a nice write up to share with the community, it just didnt work out in the end.


                                                strangely enough, its never the posters that fade and lose that make comments like this.
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                                                • thebestthereis
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 03-01-09
                                                  • 11459

                                                  #25
                                                  its because that poster has never lost a game ever, i'd bash as well if i was perfect for my entire life and was 100% for like 434-0. not everyone can god be but some are that is the reason for the bashing.
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                                                  • nobs
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 08-31-09
                                                    • 4216

                                                    #26
                                                    No they havent called me at all yet, but if they do I will tell them pay me first then I will re up
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