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  • warcrise
    SBR High Roller
    • 04-01-10
    • 158

    #1
    Only five wins? Here’s a bowl invitation
    Couldn’t let this one pass without comment, since it’s both semi-news and complete joke …
    For those who missed it, the NCAA recently approved two new bowl games for the 2010 postseason: The New Era Pinstripe Bowl (at Yankee Stadium, of course) and the Dallas Football Classic.
    The additions, combined with the collapse of the International Bowl, mean there will be 35 postseason games — that’s 70 slots for 120 FBS teams.

    The odds of there being 70 FBS teams with at least a 6-6 record?
    Pretty good, it would seem: In each of the past three years, 72 teams had a 6-6 record or better.
    But clearly, there isn’t much cushion.
    For that reason, the Football Issues Committee (FIC), which approved the new bowls, is discussing the possibility of allowing 5-7 teams to participate if there aren’t enough options at 6-6.
    “A what-if case, that’s certainly something that’s currently being discussed: That if you only had 69 teams, what would you do?” Mark Womack, associate commissioner of the SEC and member of the FIC, told the Associated Press earlier this week.
    “Those are things that will be discussed over the summer.”
    But really, what choice is there?
    If 5-7 teams aren’t eligible in dire circumstances, then a bowl (or two) would go dark — and, one could argue, that would be worse because of the blow to the local economy.
    If you love the current system, then having 5-7 teams in the postseason might not bother you. It’s all about the opportunity!
    If you loathe the current system and want some form of a playoff, then you’ll no doubt view the prospect of 5-7 teams in the postseason as another example — perhaps the ultimate example — of FBS lunacy.
    And you won’t be alone.
  • BigdaddyQH
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-13-09
    • 19530

    #2
    They may take a top rated FCS team that lost out in their playoff game. Having said that, I could not agree more with you. 35 bowl games is absolutely ridiculous. Who in the hell wants a meaningless bowl game in Dallas on New Years Day? Just because the Cotton Bowl was moved to Jerryworld, does not mean that Dallas needs another worthless Bowl Game. The New Era Pinstripe Bowl should go over about as well as the Hawaii Bowl does. There are at least 10 bowls that should be dealt away with. But that probability is just about zero, unless the conferences reallign and form 5 Super Conferences. Even then, the chances of losing Bowls are rare.
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    • stealthyburrito
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 05-12-09
      • 21562

      #3
      coaches love this kind of shit cuz they have a better chance of putting a bowl game on the resume. thing is, everyone knows it isn't an accomplishment when nearly 60% of teams reach postseason play.
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      • rwsmith
        SBR Sharp
        • 04-13-10
        • 286

        #4
        Ruining the bowl season with too many bowls...what happend to every bowl game being a great game to watch!!!
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        • scarp
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 01-12-10
          • 697

          #5
          Bowl games are so boring anymore. I wish only the teams in the top 30 would be allowed to a bowl game
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          • BigdaddyQH
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 07-13-09
            • 19530

            #6
            All of you are singing to the choir. I used to love bowl season when it was two weeks long. Now they drag it out for over three weeks. I completely lose interest in the Bowl Games played after New Years Day. They seem to be anti-climactic. This year New Years is on a Saturday. The NFL season ends on the following Sunday. So we skip to Monday for the Orange Bowl, Tuesday for the Sugar Bowl. Then we get the GMAC Bowl on Thursday, the Cotton Bowl on Friday, The Papa John's Bowl on Saturday, the (are you ready for this) Kraft Feed the Hungry Bowl (formerly the Emerald Bowl) on Sunday, and finally the BCS Championship game on Monday, January 10th.

            Some of the games that they can get rid of are the following:

            St. Petersburg Bowl featuring the Big East #6 team vs the CUSA #4 team.
            Eagle Bank Bowl featuring the ACC #8 team vs the CUSA #6 team.
            Dallas Bowl featuring the Big 10 #7 team and the Big 12 #8 team.

            They can also dump the Little Caesars Bowl and have the CUSA #1 and MAC #1 play in the Liberty bowl.

            That would be a start.
            Last edited by BigdaddyQH; 05-03-10, 10:02 AM.
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            • Kustac
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 10-15-09
              • 550

              #7
              I've got it ... if there aren't enough 6-6 teams, rather than taking a 5-7 verses a 6-6 how about that bowl then becomes required to take to two WORST records in football ... Team A with a record of 1-11 opens as a 4 point favorite over Team B who's 0-12 .... i can hear it now ... Well I tell you Brent in all the years I've been doing this I can't remember two worse teams on the field at the same time than the pair we'll see out here today .... That's right Phil, it should be a (pause) well lets just go live down Sherri who's on the sideline
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              • fishmonger
                SBR MVP
                • 12-31-08
                • 1492

                #8
                I....

                love it!!! More games to cap. I watched ALL the bowl games last year. Had action on 90% percent of them. How can watching more football be a bad thing?? Would you disagree with an extra week of NFL playoffs??
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                • goblue12
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-08-09
                  • 1316

                  #9
                  I'd rather watch a 6-6 UL Lafayette play a 6-6 Bowling Green in the Land O' Lakes Butter Bowl in Minneapolis, MN than watch College Basketball on a December weeknight.
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                  • BigdaddyQH
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-13-09
                    • 19530

                    #10
                    Originally posted by fishmonger
                    love it!!! More games to cap. I watched ALL the bowl games last year. Had action on 90% percent of them. How can watching more football be a bad thing?? Would you disagree with an extra week of NFL playoffs??
                    Absolutely. I would welcome an 18 week regular season instead of a 16 week season, but an extra week of NFL Playoffs just cheapens the product. I would welcome an extra week of college football also, but not more bowl games. What this does is cheapen the product by forcing more BCS Conference teams to schedule games against non-BCS opponents and more FBS teams to schedule at least one game against an FCS team, so they can get 6 wins and qualify for a bowl. That just ruins the regular season.
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                    • scarp
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 01-12-10
                      • 697

                      #11
                      i wish there was another week of football
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                      • IrishTim
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 07-23-09
                        • 983

                        #12
                        I agree with BDQH, no more bowl games. I don't hate the bowl system as much as some people do, but we can't keep adding them so 75% of teams get bowl bids.

                        If they go to a playoff system however, I think they'll have to shorten the regular season somewhat.
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                        • BigdaddyQH
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 07-13-09
                          • 19530

                          #13
                          If they get a playoff sysem, they probably will go back to an 11 game schedule. But the problems with a playoff system are numerous, so I doubt that we see one. Certainly not in the next 5 years. The only way I see a playoff system happening is for an 8 team playoff, with the first 6 games being played at the higher seats home field. The final then could be played as the current BCS Championship game is played now. This would have to start on the first Saturday in Dcember, so the bowls could pick their teams by the end onf the second Saturday in December.
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                          • Cookie Monster
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-05-08
                            • 2251

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Kustac
                            I've got it ... if there aren't enough 6-6 teams, rather than taking a 5-7 verses a 6-6 how about that bowl then becomes required to take to two WORST records in football ... Team A with a record of 1-11 opens as a 4 point favorite over Team B who's 0-12 .... i can hear it now ... Well I tell you Brent in all the years I've been doing this I can't remember two worse teams on the field at the same time than the pair we'll see out here today .... That's right Phil, it should be a (pause) well lets just go live down Sherri who's on the sideline
                            I could even imagine a name: The winless bowl.

                            Seriously, at the local university football season, the last place of each of the two groups play a postseason game. It is named "The sweet potato bowl", and both teams take it as the most important game of the season. There is no relegation for the losing team, but it is such a shame getting the sweet potato that the players play very hard.
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                            • DrunkHorseplayer
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 05-15-10
                              • 7719

                              #15
                              One team could play in two bowl games a few weeks apart.
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                              • plzkthx
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 11-25-09
                                • 487

                                #16
                                a team playing in 2 bowls...that will be crazy.
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                                • larojoes
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 03-22-08
                                  • 52

                                  #17
                                  My own thoughts just echo most everyone else's in this thread. Thirty-five bowl games is ridiculous, period. As has been mentioned, it diminishes the value of the "product." Teams used to be invited to play in bowls as a reward for a fine season. Now they're invited to satisfy the egos of corporate executives. Mediocrity is thus rewarded and encouraged. As for eliminating bowls, I would go one step further and suggest no team with fewer than eight (8) wins should get a bowl invite. If a team goes 8-4, it has won two-thirds of its games, an accomplishment worthy of some recognition. In the NFL, if a team goes 11-5, it usually makes the playoffs. It is not unusual for 10-6 teams to be left out of the playoffs. If 15 bowl games were eliminated, that would leave 20 involving 40 teams, one-third of all Division I teams. The NFL doesn't need more regular season games nor more playoff teams: 12 of 32 make it in, 37.5% of all NFL teams.

                                  I can understand that handicapping/betting junkies would welcome more bowls, more weeks, more playoff games, more potential action. Having endured the true grind of handicapping the last 2 seasons, I am relieved when the first week of December arrives and the last full-slate weekend of college ball has come and gone. I also feel that the worst aspect of the bowl-mania is scheduling games (other than the BCS title game) after New Year's Day. Those games can't be anything other than anti-climactic. Then again, nobody gives a toss about tradition if there's a buck to be made. Keep on rockin' in the free world!
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                                  • BigdaddyQH
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 07-13-09
                                    • 19530

                                    #18
                                    I can understand the NFL expanding to 18 regular season games, because their players are paid for 20 games, and it matters not how many are "pre-season" games. I agree that they should not expand the playoffs. I was against the wild card teams, and I certainlhy would not want half of the NFL teams getting into the playoffs.
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                                    • Jrod124
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 10-31-09
                                      • 5622

                                      #19
                                      2 bowls games will be the new standard, sad
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