The Big 10. Who is Up? Who is Down?

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  • BigdaddyQH
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-13-09
    • 19530

    #1
    The Big 10. Who is Up? Who is Down?
    A look at the 11 Big 10 teams to see where they may be going this season.

    Illinois: DOWN. This team really disappointed last season, and the news does not get better. Only 5 starters return on offense, which loses most of it's skilled position players. The defense returns 7 starters, but takesw a big hit on the line. A new OC and DC try to turn this program around, but will be hard pressed to win more than 4 games this season.

    Indiana: DOWN. The good news is that Indiana returns most of their skill position players on offense. The bad news is that the lost 7 starters on a defense that was not very good last season. Indiana actually may win more games than last season because they add a 4th non-con patsie onto the schedule, but winning two Big 10 Games is doubful.

    Iowa: UP. This team returns 6 starters on offense and 8 on defense. The spring came and went without problems. The schedule is very kind to them. They get Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Penn State at home. This team has a real shot at winning the Big 10. If they fail this year, Ferentz may not get another chance. This is as easy as it gets for Iowa.

    Michigan: UP. It is pretty much do or die for Rich Rod this season. 7 starters return on an offense that needs to find consistancy. They also must avoid a QB controversy. The defense returns 8 starters, and DC Robinson tries a 3-3-5 scheme to try and shore up a defense that gives up way too many points. The schedule is not too terrible. Anything less than 7 wins for Michigan and Rich Rod may be gone.

    Michigan State. DOWN: This team was scheduled to return seven starters on eachside of the ball, but that is not certain now due to an incident which saw 8 players kicked off the team. That really hurt a team that was a disappointment last season. The good news is that both QB's return to lead the offense, and the air game should be improved. The RB's are thin now, and the O-line will need work. The Defense will be thin on the line and in the secondary. A soft non-con schedule will help, but it is hard seeing this team winning more than 6 games this season.

    Minnesota: DOWN. This team gets hit hard by graduation. 9 starters return to the team, but every position is very thin. Consistancy will be the key for this unit. They scored over 30 points 4 times last season, but were shut out twice. The defense takes a huge hit, losing 9 out of 11 starters. This unit basically has to start all over again. The schedule is tough, with USC, Penn State, Ohio State and Iowa visiting Minnesota this year. A repeat of last year's record would be an accomplishment.

    Northwestern: UP. You have to love this team. The Rodney Dangerfields of the Big 10, all this team does is win. THe offense loses QB Kafka, but returns 8 starters. The Defense returns 6 starters, but gets hit hard on the secondary. The schedule is doable, with Michigan and Ohio State absent. This team certainly has the capability of winning 8 games this season.

    Ohio State: UP. But less than people think. With 9 starters returning on offense, Ohio State should have no problem scoring, that is, on weaker teams. They problem is scoring on stronger teams, as USC proved last season. The defense returns 6 starters, but gets hit in the backfield, and also loses a lot of depth. The schedule is easier. Miami replaces USC. Away games at Wisconsin early, and at Iowa, sandwiched in between two home games against Penn State and Michigan will tell the tale for Ohio State this season.

    Penn State: DOWN. JoePa returns 7 starters on offense, but loses his QB. RB Royster is going to have to carry the load until a new QB can be developed. The defense returns only 5 starters, and gets hit hard at LB and in the secondary. The D-line will really have to step up. The schedule is not as easy as it usually is. Games at Alabama, at Iowa, and at Ohio State loom large. It will take a miracle for JoePa to pull off another 10 win regular season this year, but next year, look out.

    Purdue: UP. But again, only slightly. Purdue returns 6 starters on offense, and QB Marve, who was ineligable last season, takes over that position. The must find replacements for the center of the line. The defense returns 5 starters, and loses the entire secondary. This unit is very questionable. Ball State replaces Oregon on the schedule, and that might be just enough to get Purdue that 6th win, and a minor bowl award.

    Wisconsin: UP: 10 starters return on offense. This unit should be loaded and could be one of the best in the Big 10. The defense returns 6 starters, but loses depth in the line and the secondary. This unit will be HC's Bielema's major concern going into the season. The defense gave up 28 or more points 6 times last season, and that must improve. Their schedule boils down to two weeks in October. The 16th, at home against Ohio State, and the following week (23rd) at Iowa. Win those two games and go to the head of the class, and possibly to the NC game. No Penn State helps.

    Overall: The Big 10 showed some solid improvment last year. Look for more of the same at the top this season, with Iowa, Ohio State, and Wisconsin all capable of running the table. Michigan should be improved. Unfortunately, the bottom of the Big 10 will just get worse. That means more separation in the conference this season.
  • PRC
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 10-22-09
    • 576

    #2
    Nice post. Some helpful stuff there. I think OSU will be playing the championship game.
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    • brooks85
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-05-09
      • 44709

      #3
      went to the buckeyes spring game today, like what i saw of pryors arm
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      • brooks85
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-05-09
        • 44709

        #4
        watching the illinois spring game on big ten netowrk and you spot on. The offense is looking ugly and/or the defense is looking better than i expected.
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        • iwantcougars
          SBR MVP
          • 09-29-09
          • 2156

          #5
          ohio state and iowa should dominate the big 10. I think osu has the chance to go the national champ., but with the buckeyes you never know which teams takes the field recently
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          • jessetopolski
            SBR High Roller
            • 12-20-09
            • 162

            #6
            ive got a feeling mich will be back this yr
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            • monostereo
              SBR Hustler
              • 04-20-10
              • 55

              #7
              interesting
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              • BigdaddyQH
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 07-13-09
                • 19530

                #8
                I would not overlook Wisconsin here. Not with 10 starters returning on offense. This team is very physical. Everyone will be talking about Ohio State and Iowa, but I want to see the odds on Wisconsin winning the Big 10. There could be some solid value there.
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                • PRC
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 10-22-09
                  • 576

                  #9
                  Thought you didn't believe in value bigdaddy, only "winning" wagers.
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                  • steve18
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 11-26-09
                    • 662

                    #10
                    This is truly the year for Wisconsin to shine. They brought back everyone and will make a run at the Big Ten title.
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                    • jburt
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 04-19-10
                      • 8

                      #11
                      Hopefully Pyror comes out and has a stud year like he should have had by now... So much hype on that kid but not lotto show for it as of now.
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                      • Kustac
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 10-15-09
                        • 550

                        #12
                        good stuff there, most surprised by the Purdue section
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                        • BigdaddyQH
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 07-13-09
                          • 19530

                          #13
                          Originally posted by PRC
                          Thought you didn't believe in value bigdaddy, only "winning" wagers.
                          Part of finding winning wagers is finding value. Now if Ohio State is 3/2 to win the Big 10, and Wisconsin is 6/1, and Ohio State plays Wisconsin in Madison, who presents the bigger value? I am not saying that I am going to take Wisconsin. All I am pointing out is that they may the best value on the board if you wager on Futures like that.

                          To give you an example, at one off shore book, Ohio State is +550 to win it all (11/2). Wisconsin is +4000, or 40/1. Which play has the best value?
                          Last edited by BigdaddyQH; 04-26-10, 06:55 PM.
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                          • Vince Lombardi
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 11-23-08
                            • 841

                            #14
                            The Buckeyes will be tough this season. They are finally going to give Pryor some freedom to be the playmaker that he can be.
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                            • PRC
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 10-22-09
                              • 576

                              #15
                              Good post there
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                              • PRC
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 10-22-09
                                • 576

                                #16
                                My guess would be that you are implying Wisco is the better bit. Think of it this way.

                                If I offered you a coin flip, with heads at -200 and tails at +200 there is obviously value on the tails and betting on tails is the right side, win or lose.
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                                • BigdaddyQH
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 07-13-09
                                  • 19530

                                  #17
                                  This is true. As far as the actual game goes, it is way too early to speculate. It is in Madison. By time the game is played, Ohio State would have played Miami (Fl) and 5 absolute patsies, and Wisconsin would have played it's toughest game at Michigan State, so the possibility of both teams being undefeated when they meet certainly is there.
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