idaho vs hawaii

**Dbldown11** · 10-15-09, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by Cougar Bait

I only said that because it was the only reason I could come up with. I am already on Idaho. If they want to bet the number down let them.

Yeah I know....but I just point that out whenever there is a thread where RLM is the big topic of discussion and big reason to bet a team......RLM should NEVER be a reason to bet a team. If anything maybe just a reason to stay away

**StraitShooter** · 10-15-09, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by Dbldown11

Do you have any actual information or statistics....or thoughts as to why Hawaii will cover? or just "the play is hawaii". Just wondering cause I like hearing views of people that disagree with me. As long as they are logical

Just 30 some years of watching people tout a side

Look at all the experts on the Mon Night football game..they were all on the Jets

If this was as easy as it looks on paper nobody would have to get up for work in the AM

You can find 100 pretty write ups on Hawaii if you look

100 pretty write ups on why to take Idaho if you search

No one can predict turnovers, player`s attitudes and just dumb luck

Late Sat nite half the guys will jump and shout how they capped the game

the other half will say "get em next time"..Thats all I know man..So I play law of averages..

I do have physical insight on some games..aside from watching each team play a couple times ( on ATDHE.net)..thats all I know about these two...GL Buddy

**Dbldown11** · 10-15-09, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by StraitShooter

Just 30 some years of watching people tout a side

Look at all the experts on the Mon Night football game..they were all on the Jets

If this was as easy as it looks on paper nobody would have to get up for work in the AM

You can find 100 pretty write ups on Hawaii if you look

100 pretty write ups on why to take Idaho if you search

No one can predict turnovers, player`s attitudes and just dumb luck

Late Sat nite half the guys will jump and shout how they capped the game

the other half will say "get em next time"..Thats all I know man..So I play law of averages..

I do have physical insight on some games..aside from watching each team play a couple times ( on ATDHE.net)..thats all I know about these two...GL Buddy

Sounds good. Thanks

**808DOUGHBOY** · 10-15-09, 05:49 PM

Wassup guys coming from Hawaii and a big Warriors fan. Watching the warriors get smashed by our division rivals last week is pretty much what well expect for the rest of the season. With Alexander hurt a decent not even good QB, Mcmackin and the boys are going to struggle. With no depth behind Alexander and without a field general in the pocket Hawaii will once again stryggle to put points on the board. and I dont think Illinois will have any problems against a horrible D at home. This is one of the games this week I'm definetily loading.

**808DOUGHBOY** · 10-15-09, 10:27 PM

sorry boys I meant Idaho not Illinois.

**stats13** · 10-15-09, 10:30 PM

assuming uga gets past vandy, i'll need idaho -3.5 to close out a teaser. see its down to -8 now. pretty sick.

**rm18** · 10-15-09, 10:37 PM

Hawaii should be able to throw on Idaho, cannot compare to La Tech, we are still taking Idaho though at -6.5 -140 probably but have to do more research

**HawaiiFan** · 10-15-09, 10:50 PM

I agree, Hawaii is garbage. I've been a fan for over 25 yrs and I know when to take the other side, like the Fresno st game. Hawaii may be able to throw but they can't string together plays to get a score to save their lives. The red zone is deadly for them also, nothing but field goals. Yes, we have receivers but we no longer have a QB. Hawaii D, where is it??? The run has been Hawaii's weak point but pass defense is suspect too as your can see from the Fresno game. RLM is not 100%, I think this time it loses.

Originally posted by 808DOUGHBOY

Wassup guys coming from Hawaii and a big Warriors fan. Watching the warriors get smashed by our division rivals last week is pretty much what well expect for the rest of the season. With Alexander hurt a decent not even good QB, Mcmackin and the boys are going to struggle. With no depth behind Alexander and without a field general in the pocket Hawaii will once again stryggle to put points on the board. and I dont think Illinois will have any problems against a horrible D at home. This is one of the games this week I'm definetily loading.

**jellobiafra** · 10-15-09, 11:01 PM

Why is this line plummeting? It opened at 11.5 (12) and is now down to 8.

**stats13** · 10-15-09, 11:03 PM

weird line movement here. its not like hawaii has been getting better anytime in the last week

**jellobiafra** · 10-15-09, 11:04 PM

People still think Hawaii is Hawaii, and Idaho is just Idaho?

**jimmymo** · 10-15-09, 11:07 PM

Line drop is based on the fact that Dr. Bob is on Hawaii....he is about even on the year, so take it fwiw..

I bet Idaho at -10, and bet them again at -7...fukk Dr. Bob....

**jellobiafra** · 10-15-09, 11:12 PM

I used Idaho in a teaser when they were 9.5. If this line drops to 7 I will play it.

**goldseeker** · 10-15-09, 11:16 PM

Idaho should be able to cover easily at -8

**rm18** · 10-15-09, 11:21 PM

that is why Pitt jumped up when i went to the store i guess too?

**LINE-crush-ER** · 10-15-09, 11:27 PM

I wouldnt bet on Hawaii away , and I wouldnt bet against hawaii at home , big time time differnce , Hawaii is better at home , its a long way from idaho to hawaii , beleive I like the poinbts here , but too late for me to bet cant stay up that late anyway

**KKoz9** · 10-15-09, 11:31 PM

Beware the Kibbie Dome....Idaho rolls. Power ranking in the 50s, Hawaii in the 90s.

BTW, Idaho is home this game, not on the island.

**rm18** · 10-15-09, 11:38 PM

game is at 5

**LINE-crush-ER** · 10-16-09, 12:02 AM

I know its at idaho but My theory doesnt change here just dont like hawaii , sorry i dont pay any attention to hawaii guess it was my point , just cant keep up with em and their schedule ,

**JMUplayer** · 10-16-09, 07:39 AM

Hawaii coming to the mainland has never been consistantly successful

**andywend** · 10-16-09, 07:49 AM

Flateyes said:

WTF!!! does anybody know how to cancel a bet with 5 dimes? i put in a brick load on this game thinking hte line would move to -14. something very fishy here.

This gets my nomination for the funniest post of the year.

You bet a "brick load" on the game thinking the line would move in your favor to -14 and now the line has moved strongly against you and you want the book to cancel out your wager.

Perhaps you meant the post to be a joke but it sure sounds like you're serious

Funny, funny stuff.

**pdx107** · 10-16-09, 08:25 AM

idaho for sure, amazing that with a win they become bowl eligible...

**BigdaddyQH** · 10-16-09, 09:16 AM

Originally posted by Dbldown11

Just cause people may be bettin big money on Hawaii doesn mean jack......

a lot of people that havnt follow idaho or hawaii this year probably look at this line and say Hawaii....theyve been decent the past few years. and Idaho has always sucked. and if they happen to have a lot of money they may bet a lot on hawaii.

if RLM is the only thing going against a team that means nothing. Unless you can point out actual reasons for people to bet Hawaii the RLM could just be rich fools

That is a totally rediculous statement. Obviously you do not wager on games. You know noting about the high rollers or cartells who wager more money on one game that you have wagered in your life. Seeing as you know nothing about this game, let me enlighten you on why the line has gone the way it did.

The first money that went down came in on Idaho. After all, they clearly have had the better season. The line went too high. The Hawaii people got a great price. Then the manipulation went to work. It was pointed out in gaming circles that Hawaii is 5-0 ATS in their last 5 games against Idaho. It was also pointed out that Hawaii has a win on the road, and has a 2-1 ATS record on the road. They suffered a 1 point loss on the road. People were reminded that Idaho had to struggle to defeat San Jose State last week and did not cover that game. This, in part, is how games are manipulated by the wise guys and cartels who are looking for a middle play. Remember, las week saw the first sucessful "middle play" in a major game in many a year when the lines were properly manipulated with the Florida-LSU game. We were on both sides, as were some people in here who were sharp enough to see what was coming.

If you do not have any idea of what you are talking about, you really should keep your thoughts to yourself. Just like last night, with your Oregon State-Florida State rant, you look rather silly. You also like to duck the issue. Tell us just how much money you have lost this season, because there is no way you have won. How much did you lose last night? You are the type of person who lovew to start arguments, but will not take a side. I have not seen you take a side here. You just talk about things that you have absolutely no knowledge of. Unlike yourself, rich people are NOT fools. How do you think we became rich?

**Dbldown11** · 10-16-09, 09:22 AM

dude i was 11-5 last week for one. secondly Florida St. is better than Oregon St. in my opinion. Can you prove they arent? Want to talk about knowing what you're talking about?

IDAHO WAS A DOG AGAINST SAN JOSE ST AND THEY WON STRAIGHT UP SO HOW DID THEY NOT COVER THE GAME??????? You were on both sides? Was that posted here? Your Bullshit "we" is getting to be a joke and the shtick is getting old.

I don't take a side? Any game I take the time to post about I take a side in. You make random statements here and there in threads and then after games post winners. Sometimes posting middle winners after the fact.

You want to get on my case? Post your plays in a thread before the games like I do then we'll see how good "WE" are.

How do I think you became rich? You're a joke. That's why you come in here to post with us minnows right?

**durito** · 10-16-09, 09:29 AM

**HoulihansTX** · 10-16-09, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

That is a totally rediculous statement. Obviously you do not wager on games. You know noting about the high rollers or cartells who wager more money on one game that you have wagered in your life. Seeing as you know nothing about this game, let me enlighten you on why the line has gone the way it did. The first money that went down came in on Idaho. After all, they clearly have had the better season. The line went too high. The Hawaii people got a great price. Then the manipulation went to work. It was pointed out in gaming circles that Hawaii is 5-0 ATS in their last 5 games against Idaho. It was also pointed out that Hawaii has a win on the road, and has a 2-1 ATS record on the road. They suffered a 1 point loss on the road. People were reminded that Idaho had to struggle to defeat San Jose State last week and did not cover that game. This, in part, is how games are manipulated by the wise guys and cartels who are looking for a middle play. Remember, las week saw the first sucessful "middle play" in a major game in many a year when the lines were properly manipulated with the Florida-LSU game. We were on both sides, as were some people in here who were sharp enough to see what was coming. If you do not have any idea of what you are talking about, you really should keep your thoughts to yourself. Just like last night, with your Oregon State-Florida State rant, you look rather silly. You also like to duck the issue. Tell us just how much money you have lost this season, because there is no way you have won. How much did you lose last night? You are the type of person who lovew to start arguments, but will not take a side. I have not seen you take a side here. You just talk about things that you have absolutely no knowledge of. Unlike yourself, rich people are NOT fools. How do you think we became rich?

This guy is a joke. What a fcuking loser you are guy. All those words add up to

.

After Idaho wins and covers both Spreads you stop posting in this forum. Loser

**Dbldown11** · 10-16-09, 09:36 AM

Plus do you really think that Hawaii being 5-0 ATS the past 5 games against Idaho means anything? Wouldnt these "high roller" and "cartels" know that those 5 games Idaho was horrible and Hawaii was fairly decent? Wouldnt they now know that Hawaii is horrible and Idaho is pretty decent?

And their WIN on the road? it was against Washington St. you tool

And their one point loss it was against UNLV you fool

Start posting your plays before games or shut the **** up about being part of a cartel, and "knowing what was coming" so you got a middle in the LSU Florida game. You're a joke

**stats13** · 10-16-09, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

That is a totally rediculous statement. Obviously you do not wager on games. You know noting about the high rollers or cartells who wager more money on one game that you have wagered in your life. Seeing as you know nothing about this game, let me enlighten you on why the line has gone the way it did.

The first money that went down came in on Idaho. After all, they clearly have had the better season. The line went too high. The Hawaii people got a great price. Then the manipulation went to work. It was pointed out in gaming circles that Hawaii is 5-0 ATS in their last 5 games against Idaho. It was also pointed out that Hawaii has a win on the road, and has a 2-1 ATS record on the road. They suffered a 1 point loss on the road. People were reminded that Idaho had to struggle to defeat San Jose State last week and did not cover that game. This, in part, is how games are manipulated by the wise guys and cartels who are looking for a middle play. Remember, las week saw the first sucessful "middle play" in a major game in many a year when the lines were properly manipulated with the Florida-LSU game. We were on both sides, as were some people in here who were sharp enough to see what was coming.

If you do not have any idea of what you are talking about, you really should keep your thoughts to yourself. Just like last night, with your Oregon State-Florida State rant, you look rather silly. You also like to duck the issue. Tell us just how much money you have lost this season, because there is no way you have won. How much did you lose last night? You are the type of person who lovew to start arguments, but will not take a side. I have not seen you take a side here. You just talk about things that you have absolutely no knowledge of. Unlike yourself, rich people are NOT fools. How do you think we became rich?

who the **** is we?

**HoulihansTX** · 10-16-09, 11:03 AM

Check out my perspective...

http://forum.sbrforum.com/college-football-handicapping/246307-stack-paper-f-tha-haters-ncaa-week-7-a.html#post2394433

**Tigers1230** · 10-16-09, 02:46 PM

This is funny. Look at who Hawaii had at QB and WR for the past few years. COMPLETELY different team. I also like it that he said they didn't cover when I won with them last week, along with dbldown.

**Dbldown11** · 10-16-09, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by Tigers1230

This is funny. Look at who Hawaii had at QB and WR for the past few years. COMPLETELY different team. I also like it that he said they didn't cover when I won with them last week, along with dbldown.

Yeah I thought that funny especially since he said I didnt know my facts....Funny how he hasnt come in to respond to my post since he was made a fool

**HawaiiFan** · 10-17-09, 12:26 PM

Holy cow! Line down to -7.5 now. Is there something I don't know about this game? How did so much $ come in on Hawaii that it went down from 11 or 12 to just 7.5??? LV and me will cash in if Hawaii gets blown out.

**StraitShooter** · 10-18-09, 11:44 AM

Congratulations to those of you that were on Idaho

I was wrong and lost..I thought Hawaii would sneak a cover out of this one..and maybe even win..I put 20 bucks +8 and 5 bucks on the ML and lost it all because I made a bad decision