Because if you think they are, you might want to consider laying the 17 this week. Thoughts?
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I am leaning Alabama and the points, but it's still early in the wk. It could change.Comment -
Florida owns UK and Alabama isn't going to run over everyone evey week. I do think they are every bit as good as Florida though.Comment -
I was just looking at how Kentucky has played recently and how Bama has played in that same time frame...Bama has beaten everyone by 26 points or more except Va Tech who looks like a pretty good football team...and they beat them by 10, whereas Kentucky has 2 garbage wins and a 34 point loss to UF.Comment -
Kentucky matches up better with Bama then UF. The Gators kill UK on special teams and field position. Plus UF's defense is much better than Bama's no matter what the media tells you. Bama's offense is much more predictable for a team like UK who are fairly disciplined. This will be a close game until the 4th quarter, mark my words.Comment -
I love my team but I have learned that you never discount the SEC when it's confernece play. I was very concerned about the line and the move of it the whole last week opening at 15.5 and moving to 18 in two days.
I got especially nervous after the Ole Miss/SC game Thursday night because that is exactly what can happen with SEC play. I'm glad I was wrong but I still never turn my back on conference play.
I really think UK is a worse team than Arkansas but on game day it's just hard to say how bad they'll really be. Plus Bama has to absorb the loss of Dante Hightower. All I know is the O-line sure needs to practice protecting McElroy because we sure can't afford losing him like Florida lost Tebow this past weekend.Comment -
Bama defense is better than Florida defenseComment -
Coug, personally I think Alabama is a better team at this point than Florida. I would give Florida a decided edge in only one category and that being special teams.
As far as Alabama/Kentucky comparrisome you really can't compare what happened this past weekend simply because of the dramatic circumstances of that first quarter. Everything Florida did was right and Kentucky just wasn't even in the game till it was all over.
Anything can happen but I really don't see Kentucky scoring more than 10-13 points Saturday, can Alabama score 30+? Most likely they can and will. I would imagine the line will rise as the week goes along as well.Comment -
Yeah of course Wal, that's why I said I was looking at more than just that one game. Seems like Alabama is dominating teams...especially on defense, and even when they haven't (Va. Tech) they still won by double digits...not saying it will be a play just wondered what the board had to say about it...
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You guys have lost your damn minds... Take a look at how many guys on Florida that will make it to the NFL on defense then look at how many Bama will put out and you will get your answer. Do you guys even study teams or just lose money betting
Bama has played 2 one dimensional teams in Arkansas and VaTech. Don't let the gawdy numbers Arky put up fool you. They played teams that have zero defense. The other 2 teams didn't even have a pulse that Bama played.
Florida leads the SEC in 6 statistical categories (Rushing offense, scoring offense, Pass efficiency defense, scoring defense, Passing efficiency, kickoff returns)
Bama leads the SEC in 3... (Rushing defense, Total defense, Punt Returns)
Even if you question UF's defense (which is arguably better if not just as good), you can't question UF's offense over Bama... Not in the same ballpark fellas but feel free to bet accordingly
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and Troy, Tennessee, Kentucky, and Charleston Southern are offensive juggarnauts? You can't think UF has played a tougher schedule than Alabama...even offensively.
They're both solid defenses...arguing which one is better at this point in time is pointless.Comment -
Florida is not as good as they were last year minus Harvin and Murphy. Florida was extremely lucky to beat Alabama in the SECC game. Alabama was very young last year. Bama is much better overall this year IMO. Therefore, yes, Alabama is better.Comment -
You have to look at both schedules so far. Alabama has played superior teams. Look at what VTech did to Miami.You guys have lost your damn minds... Take a look at how many guys on Florida that will make it to the NFL on defense then look at how many Bama will put out and you will get your answer. Do you guys even study teams or just lose money betting
Bama has played 2 one dimensional teams in Arkansas and VaTech. Don't let the gawdy numbers Arky put up fool you. They played teams that have zero defense. The other 2 teams didn't even have a pulse that Bama played.
Florida leads the SEC in 6 statistical categories (Rushing offense, scoring offense, Pass efficiency defense, scoring defense, Passing efficiency, kickoff returns)
Bama leads the SEC in 3... (Rushing defense, Total defense, Punt Returns)
Even if you question UF's defense (which is arguably better if not just as good), you can't question UF's offense over Bama... Not in the same ballpark fellas but feel free to bet accordingly
Alabama has 2 definite first rounders in Cody and Mclain. Mclain possibly being a top 10 pick. Then there is Arenas. The rest of the players are younger but some will eventually be first rounders. Mark it down.Last edited by BECHunter; 09-28-09, 07:53 PM.Comment -
This is a terrible way to cap games. You can't use the transitive property to cap games.Comment -
Matchups are always high on my priority list of capping games. Also talent and whether the spread is based on a recent big win or loss. A good example is Iowa over Penn St...Iowa came in limping but we knew they were better than they looked early...Miami is a team that fits the mold this week as I think they are better than they looked last week...Comment -
Coug, not trying to sway your thinking but more trying to make sure you look at everything. The Miami game this weekend. I have said all along that as good as they have looked (prior to V-Tech) they have one big weakness and that is their secondary. Oklahoma can exploit that secondary especially if Bradford is back and healthy. I doubt he will be 100% but even if he doesn't even play they can still take advantage. Also another concern is how will they re-act to last week. If they are still lingering on how badly they were completely dominated and not 100% focused on this game it could be more trouble. I know this game stands out for you and wish you luck just making sure you're looking at every angle.Comment -
Ok, I'm not about to get into any sort of pissing contest about who's played better teams and so on just 4 weeks into the season.
What I will point to is the future. Florida is in the same position as Bama, in exactly the same area..QB! Tebow has been...well there's no other way to say it...LUCKY...he hasn't gotten hurt like he has before now.
I may very well be wrong and I'm no doctor but he's incurred a very serious injury with his concussion. He's finally hit the wall so to speak. Now, how well does he come back. From this point on...he's now become more susceptible to having it happen again. Tell me he won't think about that now. Steve Young retired from the NFL largely because he kept having them happen. Does Tebow realize his mortality now and second guess running that ball and trying to beat Herschal Walker's TD record? I'm betting if he doesn't Florida coaches sure put the brakes on his running that ball so much.
As for Bama, With so many of our players being hurt this year it's all becoming a game of luck and depth at this point. McElroy goes down, I'm just not sure how well Star Jackson can tow the load and the same goes for Brantley.
I think lots of people are either realizing the true mediocrity of the SEC this year or just how full of crap the preseason polls really are with so many upsets in the top 25 occuring in just the first 4 weeks of the season. Just more of a reason they should be waiting till about this time of the year to put out any sort of polls.Comment -
Wal, the Miami game is an interesting one. It's pretty scary. You make some excellent points. I wasn't saying it was a play yet, but it fits into that mold. I feel Shannon should have them ready to go, or at least make it close. It might be a no-play for me. We'll see.Comment -
17 point spread isnt the way you meaure which team is stronger , florida is more of an attack offense , alabama is more likely to play for field atvantage prior to taking a risk play early on , alabama will likely have their running game in full speed , in which this game could very well end 16-0 or be at that the first quarter , now to answer your question yes right now alabama is better , not less likely to beat times by the margin florida does on a weekly bases , 2 completely different styles of games alabama will play the game like they would the strongest of competitiors (as they would when they play florida , so when florida gets a true test they will have to do as olemiss did against south carolina wonder why that ole play book doesnt work against teams like alabama ,,,,, 17 points is a lot of points to even consider on monday wheather , time of game what channel just lets say best case scenario kentucky 17 points alabama worst case scenario 24 and porbable case alabama 34 so it seems to be like a good line that arkansas line is what is sitting out at me hard right now good luckComment -
Alabama 38
Kentucky 20Comment -
If you watched this game you would have seen a UK team that totally outplayed Bama for the 1st quarter and all up to the last minute of the 2nd quarter. They gave up 14 points in 19 seconds which killed the game. UK gave Bama every thing they wanted and the score was not indicative as to how well UK played them. Stupid penalties and turnovers killed UK.
Bama's offense AND defense is not nearly as good as UF's. Sorry Bama homers.Comment -
I'm not a Bama homer. I don't give a shit about any team. I like money.Comment -
Yeah, I was totally pissed at our play from the moment just after we scored within the first 57 seconds of play to right up to the 19 seconds before halftime when we scored two touchdowns. It was pretty painful how Kentucky could only kick fieldgoals to us putting the ball in the endzone in that first half.
Honestly, the time inbetween that was ugly. I've said this since after the FIU game. The only team that beats Bama this years is...OURSELVES and we proved that to some extent today. Excessive penalties, poor execution and just lack of focus is what will get us beat. Bama was due a bad game and hopefully as ugly a win as this honestly was this will be it for a while.
As I know there are some wagering sites that literally will have all forms of bets available, I wonder what the odds are that Tebow plays next weekend against LSU. My money says he's sittin it out and if he plays it's limited at best. A stage 3 concussion isn't something you heal from in two weeks and go back out and take more hits of the same.
So is Florida better than Bama...who knows. You say because we played bad and only beat Kentucky by 18 compared to your 34 pts that you're better. Ok, so you only beat Tennesse by 10 and just tonight Auburn beats them by only 4. Is Auburn almost as good as Florida..not on your worst day! Hell, I still say Auburn has yet to play a worthwhile football team this year is why they are 5-0 and likely to be ranked tomorrow. As for Tennesse..I'm wondering is there a worse QB playing division 1A football this season? All in all, it's the SEC...every team comes to play like it's a title game plain and simple.Comment -
BAMA IS not as good as they think they are ** Elroy is garbage and FLA would run them outta townComment -
Figured no one was awake enough to fight this one, but its true. Bama has a BS QB who will be exsposed. When they meet a quality team, And I dont believe VT is one.Comment -
My money says Tebow will play...
I never said that UF was better than Bama because they played UK better. I said UF was a better team at this point because UF's offense is better and both defenses are about equal, although I'd give UF's defense a slight edge as well. I don't believe in the transitive properties of team A beat Team B and Team B beat Team C, so team A can beat team C... It doesn't work. Both teams are great but I'd have to give UF a slight edge.
I felt UK matched up well with Bama, merely based on personnel. Saban totally outcoached Brooks and that was the difference IMO. Very surprising that a Brooks squad could make so many mistakes as well. Nice win Bama
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Yeah, I respect that MAC, but i do think ** elroy is not the QB to lead this team, Just my opinion,
He's shaky and cant find the playmakers.Comment -
Hopefuly will find out in dec. @ the Dome in hot lanta !!!Comment
