Kansas Over 7.5 wins is an absolute lock.

**MartinBlank** · 08-02-09, 04:41 PM

No offense man, but the dreaded "LOCK" usually misses.

I see potenially 5 losses for KU.

At Texas. Oklahoma. At Texas Tech.

Missouri, Nebraska and on the road at Colorado won't be easy.

I agree with you on ND. ND should win 10 and Penn State should hit 11 as well.

**CaneDawg** · 08-02-09, 04:50 PM

looks like the number is right on

need to win at colorado

**dle** · 08-02-09, 04:52 PM

I used lock to be "that guy" because I'm extremely confident in that pick. On a game to game situation I'll never say that...but assuming Briscoe plays and they don't have any injuries...there is no way this team wins only 7 games or less.

I don't think there is any chance they lose at Colorado. Rumor has it Hawkins has lost complete control of that program and it's not going to be the same death trap it has been in the past. Missouri is terrible...Gabbert is no Chase and they lost everyone on offense for a team that had nothing on defense to begin with. After that it comes down to Nebraska, Tech, Oklahoma & Texas. They'll win two of those, IMO. I have had them at 10-2, POSSIBLY 11-1 since the start of the summer. When I saw them at 7.5...I considered going to the bank for a business loan. Because that bet is for profit.

**dle** · 08-02-09, 04:55 PM

Kansas is really good guys...extremely good. I'm an OSU fan...not homerisms here at all. They have a top 5 QB, 2nd best WR in the game and a linebacker group that can hang with anyone in the country. Nebraska lost some key leaders last year, Kansas returned them...I'd say it's their division to lose though the media seems to have handed it to the Huskers already.

**Doc JS** · 08-02-09, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by dle

Northern Colorado
at UTEP
Duke
Southern Miss
Iowa State
at Colorado
Oklahoma
at Texas Tech
at Kansas State
Nebraska
at Texas
Missouri

I see NO QUESTION wins to start off the season. Then the rest of the season you're betting the go 2-4...? I'll take that any day of the week.

Well...I certainly dont think it's a lock...

The obvious losses are Oklahoma and at Texas.

They could easily lose at Texas Tech.

Any time you're on the road in the Big 12 and your name isn't Oklahoma or UT, you can lose, so while they'll be favored at Colorado and Kansas State, neither are easy places to play and I wouldn't be stunned if they lost one of those.

Playing Nebraska and Missouri at home is clearly an advantage, but I wouldn't be stunned if they lost one of those games (probably to Nebraska).

They may go 8-4 (or even 9-3 in a best case scenario) and you win the bet...

But it's probably just as likely as they go 7-5 (or 6-6, if they lose a couple of those toss-up games) and you lose your bet...

If you want to throw a few scheckles on this JFG (just for grins), knock yourself out, but I think it's probably a 50-50 bet, at best.

Doc

**MartinBlank** · 08-02-09, 05:29 PM

Here is the other side of that coin.

Kansas struggles mightily the road.

In 2008 they had 4 "true" road games.

The lost to South Florida.
They won at Iowa State by 2.
They lost to Oklahoma
They lost to Nebraska

And about Missouri....one thing I have learned when wagering on college football. Rivalry games matter, and they are ridiculous to predict. Pitt beating WVU in 2007, UCLA beating USC in 2006, Oklahoma State beating Oklahoma in 2002. My point is...don't just write off Missouri because they have lost their starting QB. Anything can happen in a Rivalry game.

**dle** · 08-02-09, 05:36 PM

Mizzou not only lost Chase...but lost the other Chase at Tight End and Maclin. That offense will give Pinkel headaches all year...defense will just be terrible.

I don't see how this team in the Big XII North will only go a game over .500 or worse...in particular with that OOC schedule.

**JoshW** · 08-02-09, 07:07 PM

I would love to think this is an easy over, but our late season schedule is tough, and we are far from a lock to not blow a game or two early in the season.

Either way here are some of current odds:

Bookmaker
o7.5 -130/u7.5 +100

Greek
o8 +140/u8 -170

I do think if you are going to bet this the over 7.5 is better bet.

**SoonerBS** · 08-02-09, 07:23 PM

My hold-ups with Kansas is that they will be playing with a new offensive line and new LB corps. If these two units turn out being better than I suspect, then they will cover the 7.5 games. If not, they will not. I don't see a LOCK here though, sorry.

**donjuan** · 08-02-09, 07:32 PM

Decent chance Kansas isn't even favored at Colorado.

**ZBOIZ** · 08-02-09, 07:35 PM

I dont know man Kansas could end up at 7 wins. I think this number is on the money

**cubsker** · 08-04-09, 08:03 PM

not to mention Briscoe is still on thin ice.

**soonerfan** · 08-04-09, 09:16 PM

I see them going 6-6 or 7-5 at best. Watch out for Southern Miss.

**fiveteamer** · 08-04-09, 09:29 PM

Listen to ZBOIZ here he penis slapped Tssoprano to EOG.

**clowncar** · 08-05-09, 12:29 AM

Their schedule lines up horridly.

Lets assume they take care of ncol , utep and duke without a hiccup .. they then face a southern miss team that is every bit as good as they are. They are at home so they might win that game but it will be a contested game. Then they get iowa state so that should be a win. At colorado is another tossup game and a game where i like colorado to win ( at this point in time anyway ) in a very tiny upset. Then you have oklahoma for a probably loss , at texas tech for another tossup game , at kansas state for another tossup game , home to nebraska for another tossup game , at texas for a beatdown , and the neutral site game vs missouri at the worst time of the year as missouri might have rounded into form by then. If they start 6-0 you have a shot but i doubt they do. Team might be lucky to get bowl eligible with that schedule and if they lose the qb they are done.

**Ralphie1412** · 08-05-09, 01:02 AM

well if zboiz thinks the number is correct you are gold

**MartinBlank** · 08-06-09, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by Ralphie1412

well if zboiz thinks the number is correct you are gold

Oh yeah, golden alright.

I hope Z's prediction on KU works out better for him than his baseball wagering.

That was a train wreck.

**hoopster42** · 08-06-09, 08:41 PM

@ colorado the wk before hosting oklahoma is a much, much tougher gm for them than you think.........cu is decent and the altitude factor, look ahead to OU

**BeatTheJerk** · 08-06-09, 08:42 PM

How bout Cards 8.5 over is a lock .................. (NFL)

**hoopster42** · 08-06-09, 08:42 PM

8-4 if a few things go their way...............but most likely 7-5 imo

**Ralphie1412** · 08-07-09, 02:36 AM

Originally posted by MartinBlank

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralphie1412
well if zboiz thinks the number is correct you are gold

Oh yeah, golden alright.

I hope Z's prediction on KU works out better for him than his baseball wagering.

That was a train wreck.

Train wreck is being very generous, but according the Z he took down ten stacks, sooooo the jokes on us?

**hoopster42** · 10-24-09, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by hoopster42

@ colorado the wk before hosting oklahoma is a much, much tougher gm for them than you think.........cu is decent and the altitude factor, look ahead to OU

saw that shiz coming way back in early aug, daaaaamn

**shantystar** · 10-24-09, 03:35 PM

Kansas are pure lock

**MartinBlank** · 11-26-09, 03:28 PM

Remember this thread?

**ZBOIZ** · 11-26-09, 03:31 PM

And it seems as if what I said was true about this number is on the money!

Just like USC Martin! 3 losses.....

**MartinBlank** · 11-26-09, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by ZBOIZ

And it seems as if what I said was true about this number is on the money!

Just like USC Martin! 3 losses.....

What are you talking about Z? Kansas has 5 wins. Missing by 2---IS NOT BEING ON THE MONEY. Get it?

Z, do you want to see your Ole Miss prediction?

**MartinBlank** · 11-26-09, 03:52 PM

Z, you have officially become my all-time favorite poster.

You actually just bumped your chest for being right about Kansas......

The problem is---YOU MISSED KANSAS BY 2 WINS.

This isn't horseshoes Z. Getting close doesn't make you "right".

**ZBOIZ** · 11-26-09, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by MartinBlank

What are you talking about Z? Kansas has 5 wins. Missing by 2---IS NOT BEING ON THE MONEY. Get it?

Z, do you want to see your Ole Miss prediction?

I said Kansas total is dead on because I can see it finishing both under and over. 7 was the number for the books to get even money. and I saw it how the books saw it being at 7 it can go either way.

you can pull up the ole miss prediction. i'll be 2-1 on the season predictions. i also predicted lsu over 8.5 wins!

make that 3-1 on predictions

**MartinBlank** · 11-28-09, 10:22 AM

Let's review your predictions Z.

You said LSU would have "2 losses".

Yeah, wrong on that one.

You were wrong on KU sparky. Kansas is 2 wins under the Vegas line---how in that noggin of yours are you grading that as a win?

It did NOT fall on the line. If KU hit 7----that would be ON THE LINE. 5 is not on the line.

You also predicted Ole Miss would have 4 losses.

You also predicted Florida wouldn't be as good as last year----and let's be honest---they are one game away from a NC.

You said Alabama wouldn't be as good either.

I will give you this much.

You are one creative lad. Remember those goofy LSU videos back in August? Remember you telling us how dynamic LSU's offense was going to be...and how Jefferson was going to move the ball? Yeah, how'd that work out?

To recap.

LSU----Your prediction of LSU having 2 losses---was wrong.
Kansas----the vegas line was 7.....they had 5.
Ole Miss---you predicted 4----they had 3.
Florida and Alabama are both undefeated.

Oh yeah, you are right on.

**MartinBlank** · 11-28-09, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by ZBOIZ

I dont know man Kansas could end up at 7 wins. I think this number is on the money

See ZBOIZ's "prediction".

ZBOIZ is grading this as a correct prediction.

He predicted 7 wins "Kansses could end up at 7 wins"-----

But---they will likely finish with 5.

Z however---in that noggin of his-----grades this as a winner.

How f'in funny is that?