Can Anyone Explain These Odds To Me?

**BrewMan** · 10-09-18, 06:49 PM

Agree 100% with your thoughts on Hawaii. Looks too good to be true.

**L8night** · 10-09-18, 07:06 PM

Saw both of these and decided to see how it plays out during the week.

**A Quant** · 10-09-18, 07:09 PM

If you have been gambling as long as you keep telling us, there is one golden rule. If a line is too good to be true, odds are-- it is.

**InTheRed** · 10-09-18, 07:20 PM

Is Hawaii's QB still out? He was pulled from the last game just an hour or two beforehand. Their backup transferred, so their starting QB could be a 3rd string true freshman who played the last game.

**Fred The Hammer** · 10-09-18, 07:24 PM

I'm scared of Hawaii on the mainland although 15.5 is a good number. They only put up 17 at home in their last game. What happened to their stud QB? Actually I think I'm 2-0 on both of those teams but I like Colorado much better. They're so well coached and still underrated. This is not a good USC team so I think I'll be betting the Buffs too!

**A Quant** · 10-09-18, 07:58 PM

Have any of you guys actually looked at who Colorado has played/beaten?

UCLA (0-5). Nebraska (0-5). New Hampshire. Colorado State (2-4), and Arizona State (3-3).

4 Division 1 teams--with a total of 5 wins among them.

USC beat Washington State-- who by themselves have 5 wins.

**Fred The Hammer** · 10-09-18, 08:26 PM

USC is #37 in the ESPN Power Index. Colorado is #50 for what its worth

**coopdiesel** · 10-09-18, 09:54 PM

Personally, I think BYU is overvalued. The win against U of A and the. Wisconsin fuels that fire.

That said, Hawaii historically is bad coming east and playing them mainland. So I think BYU will likely win. The big question is by how much.

The spread is coming down a little and I still think it’s inflated a bit. I’m showing BYU by 7 but i don’t see it passing 10

**watsui** · 10-09-18, 10:39 PM

McDonalds injury is still a mystery....if it actually is an injury

Back up Cordero is coach's favorite and he entertained the idea of using both QBs during the season...but McDonald has been lights out......

**edoggdriveby** · 10-10-18, 01:59 PM

Both games immediately stood out to me, too. Hawaii is a good play, Colorado kind of undecided still.

**1to1000** · 10-10-18, 02:05 PM

Bigfool you just suck at capping thats why you dont understand

**JayDr3am** · 10-10-18, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by 1to1000

Bigfool you just suck at capping thats why you dont understand

this is the most toxic place on the internet. i love it

**Whoknows33** · 10-10-18, 05:24 PM

Hawaii didnt look too hot

Without the starting qb, Hawaii was barely hanging on against Wyoming who also looked pretty bad

**ZIPPER HEAD** · 10-10-18, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

I'm talking Hawaii who opened at +15 1/2 @ BYU. Hawaii is 6-1, their only loss coming @ Army, by 7 points, in a game that was played at 6:00 a.m Hawaii time. BYU is 3-3 with a huge upset win over Wisconsin, and two straight losses. Can BYU win? Sure they can, but can they cover 15 1/2? I seriously doubt it. They are 2-3 ATS with both covers coming on the road. The line has fallen to 11 in some books and is really fluctuating up and down. Hawaii +15 1/2 is my play.

Another line that surprises me is USC -7 at home against Colorado. Colorado has not played many good teams. Only Arizona State has a .500 record. The fact is that Colorado State is undefeated at 5-0 both S/U and ATS. They do what is expected of them and they cover. USC is 3-2 ATS and finally got their first cover of the season (1 point) against Arizona. USC has not lost at home since Helton took the HC reins and some think that is the main reason he is still there. I see a hard fought tough game. No way I give Colorado and anything near 7 points.

No one cares who you took.

**2daBank** · 10-11-18, 12:13 AM

Assuming that BYU line says Hawaii qb will be out again, they struggled mightily before finally beating wyo at home without him, I didn’t even know he was out for that gm (apparently it was kept pretty quite) but suppose that why line was seemingly short, luckily the rainbow warriors pulled it out!!

From what I’ve read sounds like the qb could play, but I’ve also heard some very good things about the kid who played the wyo gm, he just inexperienced.,, agree line seems crazy high whichever qb playing, it gotta be rainbow warriors or nothing imo.

**2daBank** · 10-11-18, 12:16 AM

Originally posted by InTheRed

Is Hawaii's QB still out? He was pulled from the last game just an hour or two beforehand. Their backup transferred, so their starting QB could be a 3rd string true freshman who played the last game.

Some guys i respect say that freshman is incredibly talented, obviously very inexperienced. Think there been conflicting reports on the starting qb and prob why line bouncing around.

**2daBank** · 10-11-18, 12:52 AM

McDonald did practice this week so I’d assume he gonna play?

**BigdaddyQH** · 10-11-18, 05:54 PM

Hawaii QB McDonald was just upgraded to probable. Liking my wager more now. As far as Colorado and their schedule goes, I said that they have played a weak schedule, but the fact is that they have covered their games and USC has not. Last season they were 11-3 S/U, but 4-10 ATS. This season they are 3-2 S/U, but 1-4 ATS. Now for those of you that still have trouble getting 2 out of 1+1, that is called an "Overvalued" team.

**gojetsgomoxies** · 10-12-18, 01:38 PM

hope i don't jinx you but the hawaii seems like a gift............. reading little snippets here and there, how can the hawaii coach not be backing mcdonald 100%? talk about "looking a gift horse in the mouth"

colorado at USC i'm not as confident on................. in a vacuum (i.e. normal season/situation), i'd take USC but colorado QB has been sensational. stud WR i was just reading about. nice QB running threat too. great coach, but he'll be there every year............ lots of arguments for both sides, i'm NO PLAY, but buffalo LEAN

**JAKEPEAVY21** · 10-12-18, 01:58 PM

Brock Landers loves Hawaii this weekend

**2daBank** · 10-12-18, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21

Brock Landers loves Hawaii this weekend

Well that stinks. lol. He one of few ppl that has the ability to change my mind on a team!! Lol

**JAKEPEAVY21** · 10-12-18, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by 2daBank

Well that stinks. lol. He one of few ppl that has the ability to change my mind on a team!! Lol

every once in awhile he gets one right

just passing along the info gl either way

**2daBank** · 10-12-18, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21

every once in awhile he gets one right

just passing along the info gl either way

I know jake but anytime I agree w him and tell myself that it doesn’t end well, lol.

**JAKEPEAVY21** · 10-12-18, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by 2daBank

I know jake but anytime I agree w him and tell myself that it doesn’t end well, lol.

agreed

he is also on wisconsin+9.5

**A Quant** · 10-14-18, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

I'm talking Hawaii who opened at +15 1/2 @ BYU. Hawaii is 6-1, their only loss coming @ Army, by 7 points, in a game that was played at 6:00 a.m Hawaii time. BYU is 3-3 with a huge upset win over Wisconsin, and two straight losses. Can BYU win? Sure they can, but can they cover 15 1/2? I seriously doubt it. They are 2-3 ATS with both covers coming on the road. The line has fallen to 11 in some books and is really fluctuating up and down. Hawaii +15 1/2 is my play.

Another line that surprises me is USC -7 at home against Colorado. Colorado has not played many good teams. Only Arizona State has a .500 record. The fact is that Colorado State is undefeated at 5-0 both S/U and ATS. They do what is expected of them and they cover. USC is 3-2 ATS and finally got their first cover of the season (1 point) against Arizona. USC has not lost at home since Helton took the HC reins and some think that is the main reason he is still there. I see a hard fought tough game. No way I give Colorado and anything near 7 points.

Boy, for a guy who makes fun of the rest of us, who tells us how much experience he has, how much of a winner he is, how long he's been doing this, ---- this shit blew up on you.

It's almost as if you have didn't have a single clue what it is you are talking about.

I never like to poke fun of anyone missing this badly, but the OP here is a guy who is constantly mocking fun of others.

Karma is a bitch.

**A Quant** · 10-14-18, 04:21 PM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

Hawaii QB McDonald was just upgraded to probable. Liking my wager more now. As far as Colorado and their schedule goes, I said that they have played a weak schedule, but the fact is that they have covered their games and USC has not. Last season they were 11-3 S/U, but 4-10 ATS. This season they are 3-2 S/U, but 1-4 ATS. Now for those of you that still have trouble getting 2 out of 1+1, that is called an "Overvalued" team.

Just going to let that enjoy some e-air. Breathe that in.

**BigdaddyQH** · 10-14-18, 06:03 PM

No doubt that I got my ass kicked yesterday, but the difference is this. I am man enough to admit it. You P**sy Whipped little boys are not. I am still slightly ahead for the season and have a play for Thursday Night. I will still end up on the plus side at the end of the season and most of you will not. I will write up my play now on a different thread.

**veriableodds** · 10-14-18, 06:48 PM

Hawaii game last night was a nightmare just like my card in ncaaf last week.
vt
hawaii
never again no way never ever

**A Quant** · 10-14-18, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

No doubt that I got my ass kicked yesterday, but the difference is this. I am man enough to admit it. You P**sy Whipped little boys are not. I am still slightly ahead for the season and have a play for Thursday Night. I will still end up on the plus side at the end of the season and most of you will not. I will write up my play now on a different thread.

Here is the thing. I DON'T WANT YOU TO LOSE.

But you're such a crotchety prick. You never wish a fellow gambler luck, you never offer anything but this really negative attitude.

I hope you win your selection this week. Do yourself a favor, be one of the guys. Relax.