UFC on FUEL TV 4

**Educ8d Degener8** · 07-11-12, 11:46 PM

Just watched main card on DVR...

Carmont showing great development... bit of a late bloomer at 30, but he's at the right camp given his physical skills. Still looks a bit raw, but dude is on the come up.

Weidman... very impressed there. F*cking relentless grappling, loved it... If Lombard walks through Botched, things will be interesting.

Josh Rosenthal -- seriously, wtf.

**Vaughany** · 07-12-12, 04:37 AM

Originally posted by Vitooch

"I think we should page Anderson Silva" - That would have been a good idea in 1998

lol was tht Anik?

**gabe** · 07-12-12, 04:42 AM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

would you change your opinion if i told you that carmont is 185lbs?

yeah. lol no idea why i brought che mills into it... i just thought it'd be a nice match-up... but yeah, i knew Vemola was a 185er, as is Carmont... pothead slip, my bad lol thanks for letting me know

**PunisherIND** · 07-12-12, 06:14 AM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

Oh I though you meant maincard

thats why this card was so crazy. not a single dog won out of 11 fights. i dont think thats ever happened before for a ufc event.

**PunisherIND** · 07-12-12, 06:16 AM

Originally posted by gabe

yeah. lol no idea why i brought che mills into it... i just thought it'd be a nice match-up... but yeah, i knew Vemola was a 185er, as is Carmont... pothead slip, my bad lol thanks for letting me know

lol no problem man. it didnt sound right when you suggested che vs carmont, but i had to double check to be sure. carmont is a monster.

**PSUMike** · 07-12-12, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

thats why this card was so crazy. not a single dog won out of 11 fights. i dont think thats ever happened before for a ufc event.

2 things....

Caceras was a dog (-105 on Bovada...nit picking I know) and check out UFC 72. I remember that one was a favorites card.

But am I the only one horribly unimpressed with Carmont. His striking was only adequate, his sprawl was non-existent, and his ground game was sloppy as all hell. I didn't think he looked impressive at all.

As for my bets, I only made 4 and won all of them. Ended up 6.35u. 4u on RDA (snagged him way too late @ -190 but I still saw value there), 1.5u on Simpson/Dillashaw, 1u on Simpson, Dillashaw, RDA, and Te Huna, and 1u on Munoz/Weidman ITD.

**PunisherIND** · 07-12-12, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by PSUMike

2 things....

Caceras was a dog (-105 on Bovada...nit picking I know) and check out UFC 72. I remember that one was a favorites card.

this man just won 2 SBR points. lol. and i wont nitpick about the fact that UFC 72 only had 8 fights. lol.

**Beelzebubzy** · 07-12-12, 11:13 AM

Carmont was impressive in that, that is what everyone expected him to do
downside it was against venola

**PSUMike** · 07-12-12, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

this man just won 2 SBR points. lol. and i wont nitpick about the fact that UFC 72 only had 8 fights. lol.

Don't ask me why I remember that. But going back that far, its hard to recall where fighters were at that point in there careers and who would be the betting favorite at that point in time. But for whatever reason, that one stuck with me...

**gabe** · 07-12-12, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by PSUMike

2 things....

Caceras was a dog (-105 on Bovada...nit picking I know) and check out UFC 72. I remember that one was a favorites card.

But am I the only one horribly unimpressed with Carmont. His striking was only adequate, his sprawl was non-existent, and his ground game was sloppy as all hell. I didn't think he looked impressive at all.

As for my bets, I only made 4 and won all of them. Ended up 6.35u. 4u on RDA (snagged him way too late @ -190 but I still saw value there), 1.5u on Simpson/Dillashaw, 1u on Simpson, Dillashaw, RDA, and Te Huna, and 1u on Munoz/Weidman ITD.

I wasn't impressed by him, either.

**AdamB** · 07-12-12, 01:57 PM

Holy shit. Joey's chin certainly didn't get affected by the cut, I think any light heavy is gonna really struggle to finish him with strikes. Te Huna looked crisp.

**PunisherIND** · 07-12-12, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by AdamB

Holy shit. Joey's chin certainly didn't get affected by the cut, I think any light heavy is gonna really struggle to finish him with strikes. Te Huna looked crisp.

sherdog suggested forrest griffin as te huna's next opponent.

someone page tito ortiz for gravedigging purposes.

**Vaughany** · 07-12-12, 02:04 PM

hahah yeah

**Beelzebubzy** · 07-12-12, 02:08 PM

Tehuna has not beaten anyone of note.
I'm not in his hype train yet. Let him get tested by someone like Bonnar level before he swims in the deep end

**AdamB** · 07-12-12, 02:09 PM

I'd say stick him against little Nog or Nedkov next, personally. Forrest should really just retire at this point.

**Beelzebubzy** · 07-12-12, 02:23 PM

Forest makes close to 500 a fight don't think he is going to call it quits anytime soon

**AdamB** · 07-12-12, 02:27 PM

Watching the prelims - real embarrassing for Natal with all that showboating. Ha.

**PunisherIND** · 07-12-12, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

Tehuna has not beaten anyone of note.
I'm not in his hype train yet. Let him get tested by someone like Bonnar level before he swims in the deep end

this is true, but he hasnt been fighting cans either. and he's looked impressive. bonnar on the verge of retiring. he said he doesnt want to fight any up-and-commers like te huna. only established guys with more twitter followers than he has. lol.

**Beelzebubzy** · 07-12-12, 04:18 PM

Yeah I hear that about Bonnar
i didn't mean him specifically just someone along this lines- a name that he could beat
Lil nog sounds about right or maybe Davis

**DirtyX** · 07-12-12, 07:06 PM

I'd obviously like to see Weidman/Anderson. Te Huna/Griffin, or Te Huna/Davis would make sense also.

**GunShard** · 07-12-12, 07:45 PM

Originally posted by DirtyX

I'd obviously like to see Weidman/Anderson. Te Huna/Griffin, or Te Huna/Davis would make sense also.

I see a Weidman vs Lombard happening in the future. Should be a main event fight.

**Jesus Christ** · 07-12-12, 07:52 PM

I have no idea what to make of Carmont..there are times when he just looks very average but then he has flashes of absolute brilliance.

**Educ8d Degener8** · 07-12-12, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by Jesus Christ

I have no idea what to make of Carmont..there are times when he just looks very average but then he has flashes of absolute brilliance.

Was really impressed with his transitions - that crucifix to RNC (iirc) had me like "damn."

**TheCalculator** · 07-12-12, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by Jesus Christ

I have no idea what to make of Carmont..there are times when he just looks very average but then he has flashes of absolute brilliance.

His upward skill trending is nothing short of METEORIC. I watched some of his PRE-UFC fights and he was bordering on C-grade. And his skills have JUMPED BIG TIME from each of his UFC fights. He's got GSP and the crew as training partners. Nothing but blue skies ahead for this guy. As long as they don't throw into the deep end too quickly -- I think he will keep improving and become a very strong top 10 middleweight within 2 years.