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  • zoo youk
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-23-11
    • 10701

    #106
    t took Vaughan Lee less than five minutes to submit the once touted Norifumi Yamamoto with an armbar at UFC 144, but upcoming opponent T.J. Dillashaw wasn’t particularly impressed.

    “He’s got some good grappling,” Dillashaw told the Sherdog Radio Network. “He’s got this grappling background that everybody’s hyped up on, but I think it’s a little overrated. He submitted Kid Yamamoto with nothing fancy. He just threw it on there and Kid defended the wrong way. I watched some guys like [Chris] Cariaso outgrapple him and [Brad] Pickett outgrapple him when they fought back in the day.”

    Dillashaw will meet Lee in a bantamweight bout Wednesday at UFC on Fuel TV 4. Besides not being blown away by Lee’s win over Yamamoto, Dillashaw has seen what he believes are additional shortcomings in his opponent’s game.

    “I think his cardio’s not always there,” Dillashaw said. “I think it’s a really good fight for me. I feel like I can win the fight anywhere. I think, like I said, his BJJ’s overrated and I think my wrestling will be able to take advantage of that. I’m not afraid to take the fight anywhere and I’m planning on finishing it.”

    Both fighters are coming off wins. Lee is 1-1 in the UFC, losing his debut to Cariaso before subbing Yamamoto. Dillashaw, who trains with Urijah Faber’s Team Alpha Male, won a unanimous decision over Walel Watson in his last outing.

    “I feel like they’re trying to build me, get me some experience,” Dillashaw said when asked his opinion of how he’s being matched so far in the UFC. “I only have six fights as of now. I think they’re trying to get me some more experience and just build my name up a little bit. That’s the way I see it. But anybody I fight in the UFC is going to be dangerous. If you’re here, you know what you’re doing and you’re a tough fight in your own way.”

    Lee isn’t just a submission specialist. He’ll be looking to hurt Dillashaw on the feet, but again, Dillashaw doesn’t seem especially concerned with his foe’s striking prowess.

    “He’s definitely aggressive,” Dillashaw said. “He comes straight forward. I wouldn’t say his standup’s real dynamic or fast, but he knows what he’s doing. He throws power, but I feel like I’m way faster than him, way more dynamic on my feet. I can pick him apart on my feet.”

    With that said, Dillashaw does credit Lee in some regards and he’s making a point not to underestimate him.

    Vaughan Lee, he’s a sleeper,” Dillashaw said. “He knows what he’s doing. He’s got some good game and he’s proven it against some good guys. You’ve just got to never overlook anybody and be ready to throw down with them.”
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    • zoo youk
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 10-23-11
      • 10701

      #107
      making a connection here..is Vaughan Lee, Vaughanys favorite mma fighter? ha
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      • Educ8d Degener8
        SBR MVP
        • 01-12-10
        • 3177

        #108
        F*cking dimes doesn't have the prelim lines up, and I'll likely be unable to get bets in later.

        Action Degen 2 month chalky chalk parlay Carmont / RDA / Shogun / Travis Browne / RoryMac

        GL f*ckers
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        • Beelzebubzy
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 06-06-11
          • 6995

          #109
          Originally posted by PunisherIND
          beasts! Cant wait. Took day off of work so I wouldn't miss prelims. Lol.
          This is a -ev play. Losing 500 dollars of work for 5 prelims is not worth it IMO
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          • JAKEPEAVY21
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            • 03-11-11
            • 29235

            #110
            Originally posted by zoo youk
            probably just gonna lay it. Dillashaw comes from a much better back round and has insanely higher level of competition in camp at team alpha male than the brit Lee does
            I'd rather lay the juice on Te Huna than Dillishaw, just my .02...
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            • zoo youk
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 10-23-11
              • 10701

              #111
              Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
              I'd rather lay the juice on Te Huna than Dillishaw, just my .02...
              I dont know jack about Te Huna. I ended up laying it, Dillishaw should be able to put Lee on his back every round, hes a relentless worker, looking for him to put Lee to sleep by some ground and pound. TJ has to be careful though while being in guard as I am reading Lee has some decent submission game off his back, I lay the juice, praying he doesn't get caught lol
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              • zoo youk
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 10-23-11
                • 10701

                #112
                its a bad bet and i know it.
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                • DirtyX
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 06-05-11
                  • 686

                  #113
                  Dirty'x plays


                  Ticket#:71707883
                  Jul 11 10:15 PM
                  INTERNET / -1 Jul 09 12:13 AM MU STRAIGHT BET
                  [24152] C WEIDMAN -140
                  (M MUNOZ vrs C WEIDMAN)
                  300 / 214
                  Ticket#:71723207
                  Jul 11 07:40 PM
                  INTERNET / -1 Jul 11 10:07 AM MU STRAIGHT BET
                  [24176] D PAGE -140
                  (A CACERES vrs D PAGE)
                  70 / 50
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                  • PunisherIND
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-24-11
                    • 4980

                    #114
                    Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                    This is a -ev play. Losing 500 dollars of work for 5 prelims is not worth it IMO
                    i'm salaried so i'm getting paid anyway.

                    on the other hand, the wife apparently believes that i took the day off to tend to the kids while she chats away on the phone all day.
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                    • Vaughany
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 03-07-10
                      • 45563

                      #115
                      Originally posted by PunisherIND
                      i'm salaried so i'm getting paid anyway.

                      on the other hand, the wife apparently believes that i took the day off to tend to the kids while she chats away on the phone all day.
                      hahahah
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                      • illmatick
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-05-09
                        • 5456

                        #116
                        Straight bets on Natal and Weidman so far.....Dillishaw, Simpson Guimaraes in a few parlays.

                        Waiting for some movement on Assuncao and Caceres before I possibly bite on both.
                        Last edited by illmatick; 07-11-12, 09:48 AM.
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                        • JAKEPEAVY21
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                          • 03-11-11
                          • 29235

                          #117
                          Originally posted by DirtyX

                          Ticket#:71707883
                          Jul 11 10:15 PM
                          INTERNET / -1 Jul 09 12:13 AM MU STRAIGHT BET
                          [24152] C WEIDMAN -140
                          (M MUNOZ vrs C WEIDMAN)
                          300 / 214
                          Ticket#:71723207
                          Jul 11 07:40 PM
                          INTERNET / -1 Jul 11 10:07 AM MU STRAIGHT BET
                          [24176] D PAGE -140
                          (A CACERES vrs D PAGE)
                          70 / 50
                          with you on Weidman...his takedown% and top control are much better than Munoz's..also Munoz has been in trouble far more often than Weidman in theor short careers so far..
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                          • Beelzebubzy
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 06-06-11
                            • 6995

                            #118
                            Originally posted by PunisherIND
                            i'm salaried so i'm getting paid anyway.

                            on the other hand, the wife apparently believes that i took the day off to tend to the kids while she chats away on the phone all day.
                            H
                            ahah

                            I retract my statement with the possibility of online betting

                            Im playing Weidman and the Brazilian cause I fade anvils
                            best of luck
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                            • DirtyX
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 06-05-11
                              • 686

                              #119
                              Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                              with you on Weidman...his takedown% and top control are much better than Munoz's..also Munoz has been in trouble far more often than Weidman in theor short careers so far..

                              What do you think about Page??? I have another $100.00 to throw on this card and I am debating whether to lay it on Wiedman or Page, both are at the same odds at -140...
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                              • Sato
                                SBR MVP
                                • 07-10-12
                                • 1201

                                #120
                                What about Te-Huna?

                                Im thinking of parlaying him with Carmont, Simpson and Marcelo. Obvious who the dog in this match is...but still...
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                                • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                  • 03-11-11
                                  • 29235

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by DirtyX
                                  What do you think about Page??? I have another $100.00 to throw on this card and I am debating whether to lay it on Wiedman or Page, both are at the same odds at -140...
                                  don't have a real good read on that fight, no play..
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                                  • PunisherIND
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-24-11
                                    • 4980

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                    H
                                    ahah

                                    I retract my statement with the possibility of online betting

                                    Im playing Weidman and the Brazilian cause I fade anvils
                                    best of luck
                                    good luck my dude. im big on weidman, but aside from that im going to tread lightly on this event. small play on dos anjos. a few parlay doubles with dillishaw, te huna, a-train, and gouimaraes. considering small plays on page, natal and tamura.

                                    a-train looked jacked at the weigh-ins. he should be able to ragdoll this guy. hopefully he can get a finish before he gasses.
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                                    • zoo youk
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-23-11
                                      • 10701

                                      #123
                                      fellas, I'm getting skeered here...from what I am reading Lee Dillishaw could have FOTN potential. should i buy back on Lee and just eat like 10 cents juice?
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                                      • Beelzebubzy
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 06-06-11
                                        • 6995

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by PunisherIND
                                        good luck my dude. im big on weidman, but aside from that im going to tread lightly on this event. small play on dos anjos. a few parlay doubles with dillishaw, te huna, a-train, and gouimaraes. considering small plays on page, natal and tamura.

                                        a-train looked jacked at the weigh-ins. he should be able to ragdoll this guy. hopefully he can get a finish before he gasses.
                                        Weight cutting at an old age effects chin according to junkie dr
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                                        • PunisherIND
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-24-11
                                          • 4980

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                          Weight cutting at an old age effects chin according to junkie dr
                                          Didn't read that, but sonnen had similar sentiments during weigh in show. He said the drop in weight could backfire. Didn't mention effect on chin, but he said it's generally not a good idea to drop weight division as you get older.
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                                          • PunisherIND
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-24-11
                                            • 4980

                                            #126
                                            at’s right boys and girls, Danny Boy Downes is back for a mid-week edition of the Downes Side. Now, while some people complain about having fights on a Wednesday, I think they’re a great idea. Not only are they far better than sitcom repeats, but it’s trivia night at the sports bar by my house. Much like Jon Anik and Kenny Florian, geography questions and MMA go together perfectly.

                                            This week the UFC rolls into San Jose, CA (whose highest elevation is 2135 feet) for UFC on FUEL TV. Hopefully the fighters on the night’s card have a more successful trip to San Jose than I did last summer. I was there for a friend's wedding, had a few too many “Diet Cokes” to drink and ended up telling explicit jokes in front of my in-laws. Ultimately, though, they’re still footing the bill for the wedding this summer so I guess it wasn’t a total loss...

                                            Rafael Dos Anjos (16-6) vs Anthony Njokuani (15-6)


                                            The main card begins in the lightweight division between Anthony “The Assassin” Njokuani and Rafael Dos Anjos. Njoukuani has alternated wins and losses in his last six fights and is looking to get some momentum. Known for his striking, I’ll always remember him as the guy that punted Chris Horodecki at WEC 45. Dos Anjos is a BJJ black belt who’s also looking to step up the division ladder after a couple tough breaks against Clay Guida and Gleison Tibau.

                                            It’s no secret that the key for Njokuani is to stay standing. He has struggled against grapplers in the past and that will continue here. Dos Anjos may be at a striking disadvantage, but he surpasses his opponent in every other aspect. He’ll be able to avoid the knockout blow, get the takedown and submit the “Assassin” in the 2nd.

                                            T.J. Dillashaw (5-1) vs Vaughan Lee (12-7-1)


                                            We drop down to the bantamweight division as TUF alum T.J. Dillashaw takes on some English school alum Vaughan Lee. Both fighters are coming off big wins after dropping their UFC debuts. Both skilled grapplers, this will be a test of Dillashaw’s wrestling and Lee’s jiu-jitsu.

                                            Dillashaw has been quoted as saying that Lee’s BJJ is “overrated.” I find that to be a bit of an overstatement, and that’s coming from the guy that once called the Grand Canyon “underwhelming.” Despite this incorrect assessment, TJ won’t struggle in the fight. He’ll be able to control Lee, keep him on his back and get the unanimous decision victory.

                                            Karlos Vemola (9-2) vs Francis Carmont (18-7)

                                            Next we head to the middleweight division for a bout between Francis “Limitless” Carmont and Karlos “The Terminator” Vemola in a bout sure to pour gasoline on the long feud between French-born Canadians and Czech-born Brits. Carmont is on a seven fight win streak (including 2-0 in the UFC) and former heavyweight Vemola is a six-time Czech Republic National Wrestling champion. That’s impressive, right? Also, Carmont's cornerman is GSP.

                                            Much like the Dos Anjos/Njokuani fight, this one will come down to who’s the more well-rounded fighter. Vemola has brute force and a solid chin, but he lacks Carmont’s overall package (which I hear is impressive). Carmont will be able to pick apart Vemola on the feet and brush off his takedown attempts en route to a unanimous decision win.

                                            Aaron Simpson (11-3) vs Kenny Robertson (11-1)

                                            That leads us to Aaron “A-Train” Simpson’s welterweight debut as he squares off against Kenny Robertson who replaced Jon Fitch. Simpson is a powerful wrestler known for grinding his opponents. Robertson is known for.....well.....nothing off the top of my head. He’s from East Peoria, Illinois which is the place Joe Girardi played Little League. That’s impressive, right?

                                            Roberston has finished his opponents in 10 of his 11 career wins, but struggled immensely against Mike Pierce at UFC 126. In that fight he was simply outmuscled, and -- unless Simpson's cut to his new weight goes termendously wrong -- expect the same here. Simpson will be able to dictate the fight exactly as he wants. While not the most technical striker, one of his big bombs will find its target as he picks up the 2nd round TKO

                                            James Te Huna (14-5) vs Joey Beltran (14-7)

                                            We have another weight class debut as Joey “The Mexicutioner” Beltran makes his UFC foray into the light heavyweight division against James Te Huna. It only took one fight outside the organization to get the fan favorite back into the Octagon and he’s looking to begin a new stint in the UFC after recent struggles. James Te Huna has won three of four UFC appearances (all by knockout) and shown that not only can be a contender for the 205-pound strap, but that New Zealanders can be exceptionally violent.

                                            Joey Beltran is a great guy. He even had fun Spanish nicknames for me when I hung out with him last year’s fighters summit ("pendejo" is a term of endearment, right?). Unfortunately, he’s overmatched here. Te Huna has better cardio and better striking. These two will stand toe to toe, slug it out and Te Huna will walk away victorious. Sure the fans will love it, but Beltran won’t love the UD loss.

                                            Mark Munoz (12-2) vs Chris Weidman (8-0)

                                            Which now brings us to the main event of the evening as all-around nice guy and “Filipino Wrecking Machine” Mark Munoz takes on probably-cool guy Chris "All-American" Weidman. Winner of four straight, Munoz is looking to make the case for a number-one contender spot with a win. His opponent will be a guy who surprised a lot of people with a win over Demian Maia in January... on 11 days' notice. Both fighters are accomplished wrestlers who win their fights by getting their opponents to the mat.

                                            When two wrestlers of this caliber face off against one another, we all know what happens -- ugly striking fight. Seeing that this will be the case, I have to give the edge to Munoz. I’m not sure if he can beat Weidman in a bench press competition, but he definitely hits harder. Weidman’s striking defense has a lot of holes and he’ll get clipped and drop in the 3rd.

                                            That wraps up another obscenely informative edition of the Downes Side. Be sure to follow me on Twitter @dannyboydownes and read my blog here. Also, be sure to leave your thoughts, queries and suggestions for trivia team names on the page, too. This time, try to keep the ethnic slurs to a minimum.
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                                            • zoo youk
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 10-23-11
                                              • 10701

                                              #127
                                              felllas gimme some advice here. should I stay with the bet or what?
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                                              • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                • 03-11-11
                                                • 29235

                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by zoo youk
                                                felllas gimme some advice here. should I stay with the bet or what?
                                                I think Dillishaw will probably win, but it wouldn't shock me if Vaughany pulled the upset...go with your gut...if you have a bad feeling, just crop out and take a small loss..personally, I'm on Weidman-145, Carmont-170 and dos anjos-185 all to win 100...good luck
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                                                • PSUMike
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                                                  • 07-11-12
                                                  • 10

                                                  #129
                                                  The more I think about it, the more I like Weidman. To me, Munoz is a Phil Davis-like wrestler. Their shots aren't impressive but the control is top notch. On top of that, Munoz has shown vulnerability in his sprawl. I think a few Weidman TDs can lead to sub win for him or even a UD. Aside from that, RDA heavy and Dillashaw/Simpson parlay.
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                                                  • BIGDAY
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 02-17-10
                                                    • 48245

                                                    #130
                                                    Need some action...

                                                    Unit on Weidman.

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                                                    • darko3131
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 03-16-08
                                                      • 469

                                                      #131
                                                      Njokuani for me tonight. The write-up makes sense about Dos anjos having a big advantage on the ground but at -200 I don't think he's the right side with the fight starting on the feet and Njokuani showing improved TDD lately.
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                                                      • Vaughany
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                        • 45563

                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by darko3131
                                                        Njokuani for me tonight. The write-up makes sense about Dos anjos having a big advantage on the ground but at -200 I don't think he's the right side with the fight starting on the feet and Njokuani showing improved TDD lately.
                                                        yep, keep going back and forth on this one. Was hoping Njo would hit +200 but doesnt look like he will
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                                                        • The Bet Master
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-29-10
                                                          • 2665

                                                          #133
                                                          Can't pull the trigger on Njokuani. I just remember him vs Castillo. That wasn't pretty.
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                                                          • Beelzebubzy
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 06-06-11
                                                            • 6995

                                                            #134
                                                            Originally posted by The Bet Master
                                                            Can't pull the trigger on Njokuani. I just remember him vs Castillo. That wasn't pretty.
                                                            Castillos wrestling is much better than Rda
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                                                            • gabe
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 09-12-11
                                                              • 7405

                                                              #135
                                                              I think the most likely outcome in Dillashaw vs Lee is Dillashaw winning a decision. I'm personally gonna include Lee in a parlay, but I'm getting Dillashaw wins by Decision at +100, so it's too good to pass up. Is anybody else getting such an amazing line on that? Or is it just this book? I remember getting JDS by KO/TKO for +100 also, I thought that was crazy, too... That option was removed all-together moments after I made that bet, though, but my bet was never canceled.
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                                                              • Vaughany
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 03-07-10
                                                                • 45563

                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by gabe
                                                                I think the most likely outcome in Dillashaw vs Lee is Dillashaw winning a decision. I'm personally gonna include Lee in a parlay, but I'm getting Dillashaw wins by Decision at +100, so it's too good to pass up. Is anybody else getting such an amazing line on that? Or is it just this book? I remember getting JDS by KO/TKO for +100 also, I thought that was crazy, too... That option was removed all-together moments after I made that bet, though, but my bet was never canceled.
                                                                It's Evens on Sportbet/5dimes
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                                                                • Vitooch
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 09-26-11
                                                                  • 3470

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Dill by decision is +100 at 5Dimes. I think there is a decent chance Dill wins inside the distance. Dill is rapidly improving, part of a great camp. Wouldn't count out Dill winning inside the distance by ground n pound and perhaps even by submission (guillotine choke).
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                                                                  • gabe
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 09-12-11
                                                                    • 7405

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Also getting Vemola vs Carmont Fight Goes the Distance at +100 -- anybody else getting such a good line on that?
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                                                                    • NunyaBidness
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 07-26-09
                                                                      • 9345

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Originally posted by gabe
                                                                      Also getting Vemola vs Carmont Fight Goes the Distance at +100 -- anybody else getting such a good line on that?
                                                                      Over 2.5 +110 is available and significantly better.
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                                                                      • Vaughany
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                                        • 45563

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by gabe
                                                                        Also getting Vemola vs Carmont Fight Goes the Distance at +100 -- anybody else getting such a good line on that?
                                                                        Bestfightodds.com is your friend Gabe
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