Strikeforce: Barnett vs. Cormier (May 19th)

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  • THE_LOCKSMITH
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    #176
    I wonder if Dana brings over Barnett
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    • Imsmarterthanu
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      #177
      Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
      I wonder if Dana brings over Barnett
      Barnett is done

      He's gonna go back to Japan where the competition is a little easier win a few fights against cans and retire
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      • Vitooch
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        #178
        You said that when Barnett gets GnP, he quits...

        A) He only got GnPed briefly in one round
        B) Barnett never quit. He was threatening with submissions the whole fight

        You also predicted that an Olympic wrestler would be able to take Barnett down. Which, I must admit, is profound thinking.
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        • Imsmarterthanu
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          #179
          Originally posted by Vitooch
          You said that when Barnett gets GnP, he quits...

          A) He only got GnPed briefly in one round
          B) Barnett never quit. He was threatening with submissions the whole fight

          You also predicted that an Olympic wrestler would be able to take Barnett down. Which, I must admit, is profound thinking.
          That's not what I said you need reading comprehension skills, didn't they teach you anything in school

          I said it was a problem that he tends to turn around when he gets hit and that's exactly what he did more than a few times in the fight. On the ground I didn't see anything except a few elbows which cut him open and got blood on his eyes. There wasn't any gnp

          Ground and pound is when you get full mount and pound your opponent into the ground, no full mount , it was side control and closed guard.
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          • DeFactoCrippler
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            #180
            Originally posted by Vitooch
            You said that when Barnett gets GnP, he quits...

            A) He only got GnPed briefly in one round
            B) Barnett never quit. He was threatening with submissions the whole fight

            You also predicted that an Olympic wrestler would be able to take Barnett down. Which, I must admit, is profound thinking.
            Cmon Man don't be an asshole. You said Cormier would "cruise behind his jab". He had a ******* 7 inch disadvantage in the reach department. He threw about 3 jabs in that first round, none connected. He didn't even attempt to throw jabs again until the 5th when Barnett was tired and not returning punches.

            Yeah, the fighter who is giving up 7 inches reach is going to "cruise behind his jab"? Lol, you don't know a ******* thing about fighting. You just regurgitate shit from Sherdog.
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            • Vitooch
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              #181
              Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler
              Cmon Man don't be an asshole. You said Cormier would "cruise behind his jab". He had a ******* 7 inch disadvantage in the reach department. He threw about 3 jabs in that first round, none connected. He didn't even attempt to throw jabs again until the 5th when Barnett was tired and not returning punches.

              Yeah, the fighter who is giving up 7 inches reach is going to "cruise behind his jab"? Lol, you don't know a ******* thing about fighting. You just regurgitate shit from Sherdog.
              Do you have the ability to predict what happens in every fight? These are my predictions. I never boast or claim that I can predict EXACTLY what happens.
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              • DeFactoCrippler
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                #182
                Originally posted by Vitooch
                Do you have the ability to predict what happens in every fight? These are my predictions. I never boast or claim that I can predict EXACTLY what happens.
                These aren't "predictions" they are obvious guesses. You do not even understand the simplest nuances of fighting, otherwise you would not make such statements.

                I told you before MOST mma fans are either meatheads, or little fanboy phagets who have never been in a fight in their life.
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                • Vitooch
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                  #183
                  Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler
                  These aren't "predictions" they are obvious guesses. You do not even understand the simplest nuances of fighting, otherwise you would not make such statements.

                  I told you before MOST mma fans are either meatheads, or little fanboy phagets who have never been in a fight in their life.
                  I'm a fanboy because I enjoy watching MMA?
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                  • DeFactoCrippler
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                    #184
                    Originally posted by Vitooch
                    I'm a fanboy because I enjoy watching MMA?
                    Your a fanboy because you use your spare time to write articles about the current fighter you have a crush on, lol. Submitting them to websites and shit.

                    1. Don't start condescending to ANYBODY when you just placed your first wager a couple months ago, lol.

                    2. Don't start acting like you know anything about fighting other than what you read on sherdog. Is cringeworthy watching people argue all day when they don't have a clue what they are talking about.
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                    • Vitooch
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                      #185
                      Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler
                      Your a fanboy because you use your spare time to write articles about the current fighter you have a crush on, lol. Submitting them to websites and shit.

                      1. Don't start condescending to ANYBODY when you just placed your first wager a couple months ago, lol.

                      2. Don't start acting like you know anything about fighting other than what you read on sherdog. Is cringeworthy watching people argue all day when they don't have a clue what they are talking about.
                      I'm a fanboy for being articulate and well-written?

                      Look at you defending you troll buddy. Adorable.

                      I watch alot of fights. I just wish I was as tough as you.
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                      • Imsmarterthanu
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                        #186
                        Originally posted by Vitooch
                        I'm a fanboy because I enjoy watching MMA?
                        You're a fanboy because you haven't ever trained at a gym and you've probably never won a fight in your life, you live vicariously through your television admiring fighters through hyped up highlight videos.

                        At least some of us have trained at gyms and know what it's like to grapple non stop or what it feels like to get punched square in your nose and have all the cartilage in your nose get crushed inward. Stop pretending you know and actually go out and train. You and Gabe are just couch warrior tv fight analyzers .
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                        • Imsmarterthanu
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                          #187
                          Originally posted by Vitooch
                          I'm a fanboy for being articulate and well-written?

                          Look at you defending you troll buddy. Adorable.

                          I watch alot of fights. I just wish I was as tough as you.
                          You aren't articulate

                          Can you show me one thing you've said which can be defined as articulate ? You don't even have basic reading comprehension, put away your personal bias and realize that you're nothing, you're just another pissant on an internet forum barely clinging to reality.
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                          • Vitooch
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                            #188
                            Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu
                            You're a fanboy because you haven't ever trained at a gym and you've probably never won a fight in your life, you live vicariously through your television admiring fighters through hyped up highlight videos.

                            At least some of us have trained at gyms and know what it's like to grapple non stop or what it feels like to get punched square in your nose and have all the cartilage in your nose get crushed inward. Stop pretending you know and actually go out and train. You and Gabe are just couch warrior tv fight analyzers .
                            Well that explains why you're so incoherent. You've gotten punched in the head too many times.

                            Never knew watching MMA makes you a couch warrior.
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                            • Imsmarterthanu
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                              #189
                              Originally posted by Vitooch
                              Well that explains why you're so incoherent. You've gotten punched in the head too many times.

                              Never knew watching MMA makes you a couch warrior.
                              incoherent wow using big words there Mr. articulate listen watching MMA doesn't make you a couch warrior but watching a fight and knowing what it's like to be in one are 2 completely different things . Pretending like you're an expert in MMA and not even training is stupid as hell. It's like watching football all your life from the sidelines and never actually playing it in your life then saying hey look at me I know everything about the sport.

                              The best boxing experts and the best MMA experts are people who have trained people who have experience in the game not people who watch from the sidelines. Go and find a gym I guarantee your respect for your fellow man will change for the better once you feel someone in a clinch or get taken down like a child. Go and get punched in the face a few times and tell me it doesn't change things up.
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                              • Vitooch
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                                #190
                                Never claimed to be an expert. I get some right, some wrong. To me credit I've only had a few very bad betting nights in the last few months. But I'm realistic, not cocky. You, on the other hand, are incredibly delusional and cocky. Everyone on this thread (besides DeFacto) thinks you're a complete asshole and idiot.

                                Funny how you and DeFacto claim to be tough guys. You probably are both pathetic losers in real life. **** off.
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                                • Imsmarterthanu
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                                  #191
                                  Originally posted by Vitooch
                                  Never claimed to be an expert. I get some right, some wrong. To me credit I've only had a few very bad betting nights in the last few months. But I'm realistic, not cocky. You, on the other hand, are incredibly delusional and cocky. Everyone on this thread (besides DeFacto) thinks you're a complete asshole and idiot.

                                  Funny how you and DeFacto claim to be tough guys. You probably are both pathetic losers in real life. **** off.
                                  Once again reading comprehension you moron I never claimed to be a tough guy. I'm no couch warrior either, you on the other hand are a phaggot and who the fukk cares what your gay buddies think about me, I know for a fact you're all dorks anyways.
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                                  • Vitooch
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                                    #192
                                    You claimed that I am a couch warrior because I don't train. That implies that you train and have more of a right to watch and analyze fights than I do. This is asinine and ignorant.

                                    If you think so low of all the "dorks" here, why do you bother posting here, stalking threads, and desperately seeking attention?
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                                    • Imsmarterthanu
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                                      #193
                                      Originally posted by Vitooch
                                      You claimed that I am a couch warrior because I don't train. That implies that you train and have more of a right to watch and analyze fights than I do. This is asinine and ignorant.

                                      If you think so low of all the "dorks" here, why do you bother posting here, stalking threads, and desperately seeking attention?
                                      I do have more of a right to analyze fights than you do. Just like any professional fighter has more of a right to analyze fights than I do. It's not asinine and it's not ignorant. I'll take Bas Rutten's or Randy Couture's opinion over any dork on here any day of the week. You don't know what you're talking about a lot of the times, some of your comparisons are stupid like comparing gassed out takedowns of Roy Nelson to Olympic level wrestling of Cormier. If you knew the difference of what it's like to grapple a BJJ practioner to a Wrestler you would change your mind really quick. Grappling a wrestler IS MUCH MUCH MUCH harder than a bjj artist. The amount of effort and strength it takes to deal with a guy who knows how to wrestle with a strong core is ridiculous you feel helpless on the ground because you can't deal with their constant pressure, they constantly grind on you and adapt to every little change you make, while a bjj grappler uses technique to trick you into a submission, a wrestler just sucks all the energy out of you until you can't even throw punches the same anymore, your arms feel heavy your legs get weak. It's 2 completely different experiences.
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                                      • Vitooch
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                                        #194
                                        Bas Rutten obviously has more of a right to analyze fights than I do. He's an articulate, intelligent, experienced analyst. YOU are not.
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                                        • Imsmarterthanu
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                                          #195
                                          Originally posted by Vitooch
                                          Bas Rutten obviously has more of a right to analyze fights than I do. He's an articulate, intelligent, experienced analyst. YOU are not.

                                          Whatever dork keep trying to find new cute avatars
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                                          • Vitooch
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                                            #196
                                            Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu
                                            Whatever dork keep trying to find new cute avatars
                                            Thanks.

                                            BTW what is that monstrosity Fedor has his arm around in your avatar?
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                                            • Imsmarterthanu
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                                              #197
                                              Originally posted by Vitooch
                                              Thanks.

                                              BTW what is that monstrosity Fedor has his arm around in your avatar?
                                              LOL if you don't know who that is then you're definitely a noob.

                                              That's a legend right next to another legend.
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                                              • Imsmarterthanu
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                                                #198
                                                Here you go noob

                                                best mma ko in history
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                                                my favorite fighters igor and fedor
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                                                • Vaughany
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                                                  #199
                                                  Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu
                                                  Here you go noob

                                                  best mma ko in history
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                                                  my favorite fighters igor and fedor
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                                                  • Vitooch
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                                                    #200
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                                                    • getlucky2win
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                                                      #201
                                                      that was a great ko 4 me. it was an easy pick . hendo wanted 2 smash him. he even said afterwards he knew he was out but hit him again 4 talkin all that shit. made a shit load on dan last few yrs so im tempted 2 play him vs jones but i dont think i can pull the trigger
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                                                      • Imsmarterthanu
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                                                        #202
                                                        Igor ko beats that one for me



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                                                        • Wanna Bet On It?
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                                                          #203
                                                          Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu
                                                          I do have more of a right to analyze fights than you do. Just like any professional fighter has more of a right to analyze fights than I do. It's not asinine and it's not ignorant. I'll take Bas Rutten's or Randy Couture's opinion over any dork on here any day of the week. You don't know what you're talking about a lot of the times, some of your comparisons are stupid like comparing gassed out takedowns of Roy Nelson to Olympic level wrestling of Cormier. If you knew the difference of what it's like to grapple a BJJ practioner to a Wrestler you would change your mind really quick. Grappling a wrestler IS MUCH MUCH MUCH harder than a bjj artist. The amount of effort and strength it takes to deal with a guy who knows how to wrestle with a strong core is ridiculous you feel helpless on the ground because you can't deal with their constant pressure, they constantly grind on you and adapt to every little change you make, while a bjj grappler uses technique to trick you into a submission, a wrestler just sucks all the energy out of you until you can't even throw punches the same anymore, your arms feel heavy your legs get weak. It's 2 completely different experiences.
                                                          Completely disagree here. Former fighters are biased. Elite cappers are not (or at least can admit their biases).

                                                          Case & point: Bas Rutten said that Josh Barnett was better EVERYWHERE than Daniel Cormier and couldn't see how Daniel could win this fight. Most cappers on here objectively gave both the wrestling and striking to DC with Barnett's best chance being a reversal/scramble/submission.

                                                          Never listen to Bias Rutten's opinion for the purposes of capping fights. I consider it for entertain purposes only. He'll probably be sucking Cormier's dick for all of the body shots he threw in their fight.

                                                          On the contrary, I'd take any capper with critical analysis skills and a good track record over a former fighter.
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                                                          • Oblivian
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                                                            #204
                                                            Bas says some goofy shit. His chart with comparison of strengths in upcoming matchups is often wtf worthy. I also remember on Inside MMA when they were trying to think of Renan Barao's name and he was convinced it was Edson Barboza. His scoring on fights is pretty bogus as well. Not a single **** is given that he's a former pro fighter or "MMA analyst" if I consistently disagree with him.
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                                                            • DeFactoCrippler
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                                                              #205
                                                              Originally posted by Vitooch
                                                              I watch alot of fights. I just wish I was as tough as you.
                                                              It's not about being "tough" its about have some inkling of wtf you are talking about. It is glaringly obvious that you have never fought in what you call "stand up" because you don't comprehend whats going on. Everybody has the right to say whatever they want. I was just telling you to give it a rest because you are obviously talking out of your ass, lol. Please read

                                                              The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than average. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their mistakes.
                                                              You see, it would be like me watching one game of lacrosse then giving you tips on how to twirl your baton like a fuking phaget, lol. I guess I have every right to voice my opinion, doesn't mean I'm not ignorant for doing so.
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                                                              • DeFactoCrippler
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                                                                #206
                                                                Originally posted by Vitooch
                                                                BTW what is that monstrosity Fedor has his arm around in your avatar?
                                                                What the matter phaget, Igor isn't pretty enough for you to worship and write mmajunkie love ballads about? lol. You only into black guys or something? You're a high school kid, I always figured you held the fort down here at SBR all fri and sat nights instead of partying and getting laid because you were an awkward nerd. Now I'm really starting to worry about you. Just what was that "special something" you saw in your man crush Cormier?

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                                                                • Vaughany
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                                                                  #207
                                                                  yeeep, if u listened to Frank Trigg's analysis on fights u'd see tht being a former professional doesnt automatically mean u have a clue what ur talking about!
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                                                                  • DeFactoCrippler
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                                                                    #208
                                                                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                    yeeep, if u listened to Frank Trigg's analysis on fights u'd see tht being a former professional doesnt automatically mean u have a clue what ur talking about!
                                                                    That is completely true. Just like if you never fought it does not automatically mean you are unable analyse fights.

                                                                    But if someone is unable to analyse fights and has never fought should that person just stfu?
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                                                                    • Vaughany
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                                                                      #209
                                                                      Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler
                                                                      That is completely true. Just like if you never fought it does not automatically mean you are unable analyse fights.

                                                                      But if someone is unable to analyse fights and has never fought should that person just stfu?
                                                                      haha
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                                                                      • zoo youk
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                                                                        #210
                                                                        Originally posted by zoo youk
                                                                        Strikeforce: "Barnett vs. Cormier" goes down tonight (Sat., May 19, 2012) from the HP Pavilion in San Jose, California, and features the conclusion of the ambitious heavyweight grand prix tournament.Finally.Josh Barnett got to the big show by running through his side of the bracket via consecutive arm triangle submission victories over Brett Rogers and Sergei Kharitonov, respectively.Daniel Cormier, meanwhile, needed just one win to get to the finals thanks to his replacing Alistair Overeemafter he was dumped from Strikeforce in favor of the UFC. "DC" knocked out Antonio Silva in the first round of the semifinals but broke his hand in the process, leading to the long wait for tonight's final showdown.So who wins this titanic clash of big men?Our resident Nostradumbass sees the match-up going the distance and Barnett riding his experience to a split decision victory. But what about the pros? Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) got predictions from a few of the heavyweights competing on the UFC 146 card on May 26 in Las Vegas.Let's see who Junior dos Santos, Frank Mir, Cain Velasquez and Antonio Silva think will win tonight's showdown.
                                                                        Junior dos Santos, reigning UFC heavyweight champion, said: "They are both great fighters and this is a fight that could end very quickly for each guy. But Cormier is more explosive and has the better chances to end this early. It could be very exciting, but I think Cormier wins."
                                                                        Frank Mir, two-time UFC heavyweight champion, said: "I think Cormier takes this. I can't see Barnett getting him to the ground, his wrestling is too strong. And on the feet I think Cormier has the power to end things. But with two top heavyweights, anything can happen. That's why this division is so exciting - anyone who is world class can beat anyone else with one punch. You can't say that about the lighter weight classes and that's why heavyweight fights are so cool to watch."
                                                                        Cain Velasquez, former UFC heavyweight champion said: "I pick Daniel Cormier. Number one, because I train with him but also because he's so hungry in this sport, I don't think he will be denied. He was really raw when he came into our gym the first time a couple of years ago but he picked up everything a lot faster than most. He has dangerous strikes and I can't see Josh getting him to the ground. Daniel's wrestling is too good; I think he takes this fight and makes a statement about his future in the division."
                                                                        Antonio "Bigfoot" Silva, who reached the Grand Prix semi-final stage before losing to Cormier, also picked his old rival for the win, saying: "I think Cormier will win this fight and be the Grand Prix Champion. I was very surprised by him in our fight. I think he is too strong, too powerful in this fight. He punches very hard and his wrestling is very good. I think he will win inside the distance unless Josh Barnett gets this to the ground quickly."
                                                                        all those heavy weights all picking Cormier made me go huge on him. most have even trained with him. so obviously taking current fighters opinions, especially in the same weight division can be extremely valuable.
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