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  • Bread
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-16-08
    • 23726

    #1
    UFC 88 - Upset Time
    Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.


    This weekend will give us our first full slate of Saturday college football, and our first NFL Sunday. For the truly sick amongst us, we have also been blessed with UFC 88: BREAKTHROUGH late Saturday evening from Atlanta. I have surely died and gone to sports gambling heaven!

    The one thing I am certain of, is that many of the fighters on this card will be absolutely elated to not see Mr. Anderson Silva standing across from them in the Octagon. The uber-talented Silva has destroyed Henderson, Marquardt and Franklin (twice!). Without him around, the outcomes may not be as predictable, but entertaining all the same. I have a feeling that the dogs will be let out, with upsets in four of the five featured matches.

    Chuck Liddell -255
    Rashad Evans +215


    This fight was supposed to happen at UFC 85 in London, until a hamstring injury forced Liddell to bow out. Tonight we will finally get to see “The Iceman” take on “Sugar”. As long as nobody is feeding rambunctious announcer Joe Rogan any sugar, everything should be OK.

    Liddell (21-5-0) is looking to regain his elite status after dropping two of his last three matches. During the seven straight victories before then, he earned the reputation as one of the most feared fighters in MMA. The punishing striker then faltered a bit. First he was TKO’d by Quinton Jackson, then lost a stunning split decision to Keith Jardine. In that match, Jardine threw so many leg kicks into Chuck’s left side, that it started to resemble a side of raw beef. It wasn’t pretty. Liddell then regained his winning ways this past December in a highly entertaining match against Wanderlei Silva.

    Evans (16-0-1) has come a long way en route to an undefeated record. He once said that he enjoyed to street brawl, but figured he may as well get paid for it, and set his sights on the UFC. He was then cast on The Ultimate Fighter’s second season and won the heavyweight title. Matt Hughes, who was a coach on that show, chastised Evans for showboating too much in the ring. Since then, Rashad fights with much more discipline and composure. Although the knock on him has been that some of his fights can be boring, Sean Salmon might disagree. He was the recipient of one of the nastiest head kicks I’ve ever seen.


    Evans is coming off a lackluster victory against the overrated Michael Bisping. Before that he fought to a draw versus Tito Ortiz. I felt he actually won that fight. At 28 years of age, Evans has a ten year advantage on the older Liddell. I think he will be able to withstand Liddell’s striking and gain a decision from the judges, thus earning a nice payday to his backers.


    Rich Franklin -235
    Matt Hamill +195


    Rich “Ace” Franklin (25-3-0) is REALLY glad that Anderson Silva isn’t here tonight. Since joining the UFC in 2003, Franklin has 10 wins and 2 losses. Both those losses have been at the hands, or knees, or Silva. In their first bout, Franklin’s nose ended up over by his ear

    What’s that? I can’t smell you.


    His opponent, Matt “The Hammer” Hamill (5-1-0) is a product of the third installment of The Ultimate Fighter. He is a skilled wrestler, who has been improving on other facets of his game. Matt has cruised to four easy UFC victories and one controversial split decision loss to Michael Bisping. Hamill is deaf, and that means he couldn’t hear me booing the decision in that fight. He was completely robbed by the judges, who were obviously influenced by Bisping’s hometown London crowd. He should be undefeated right now. Just terrible.

    Unfortunately for Hamill, he can’t bring Anderson Silva in the Octagon with him. Look for Franklin, as a heavy favorite, to continue his non-Silva winning streak.


    Dan Henderson -190
    Rousimar Palhares +165


    Yet another Light Heavyweight bout, and I’m going with youth and the upset once again. Dan “Hendo” Henderson (22-8-0) was part of the huge PRIDE exodus that the UFC took on. Unlike Quinton Jackson and Wanderlei Silva, Henderson has yet to taste any success in this venture. He lost a unanimous decision to Jackson, and got choked out by, you guessed it, Anderson Silva.

    While Henderson possesses knockout power from both hands, the 37 year old is almost ten years older than his opponent. Palhares (17-1-0) is fighting out of Brazil. And as expected, that means he specializes in submissions. He is coming off an arm lock victory over Ivan Salaverry. A win over Henderson could make him more of a household name. Even if most households can’t even pronounce it



    Nate Marquardt -160
    Martin Kampmann +130


    Marquadt (29-8-2) is coming off of a tough loss to Thales Leites. He was deducted a point for an illegal knee kick, and then another for a phantom elbow to the back of the head. The latter was a terrible call that no doubt, assisted in his split decision defeat. He also is a member of the Anderson Silva Beatdown Team.

    Martin Kampmann Frederiksen (13-1-0) calls himself “The Hitman”. With a name like that and his looks, he should call himself “The Skinhead”. This guy just looks like he is ready to hurt somebody. He is 4-0 in the UFC, submitting Drew McFedries and Jorge Rivera. He has also taken a unanimous decision against Thales Leites, the same man who recently beat Marquardt. Another mild upset here with Kampmann.


    Dong Hyun Kim -360
    Matt Brown +270

    A last second back injury to Karo Parisyan has catapulted this fight into the limelight. Kim (10-0-1) is a relative newcomer to the UFC. The Korean southpaw lists his hero as ANDERSON SILVA! That’s a good sign. He lists his college education as attending the Yong-In University, where he majored in Judo. That doesn’t even make sense.

    Matt Brown (9-6-0) is coming off the most recent installment of The Ultimate Fighter where he was respected by the other contestants as a tough brawler. He has since won a TKO bout with fellow TUF alum, Matt Arroyo.

    Asian fighters never seem to fare too well in the UFC, and that is just too much chalk to lay on an unknown. Take Matt Brown, the huge dog, take the money, and I’ll see you at the bar on Sunday. And remember…Anderson Silva is coming to get you.

    Last edited by Willie Bee; 09-06-08, 10:24 AM. Reason: add SBRforum.com link
  • Willie Bee
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-14-06
    • 15726

    #2
    Bread, great clip of that kick by Rashad. I'm putting that No. 2 on my list of great UFC moments behind that pre-bell knockout Herring gave to Nakao.
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    • Bread
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-16-08
      • 23726

      #3
      Yea...there are some real doozies out there.
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      • SlickFazzer
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 05-22-08
        • 20209

        #4
        Should be a good night.
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        • Bread
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 03-16-08
          • 23726

          #5
          Slick...it is the perfect segue between college and NFL.

          I'm giddy.
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          • Robyn
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 02-05-08
            • 9681

            #6
            Party at our house!
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            • JoshW
              SBR MVP
              • 08-10-05
              • 3431

              #7
              I am going all chalk.

              Liddell
              Franklin
              Marquardt

              I just think these matchups favor them as medium size favorites. I personally like Hammil and Evans as fighters, but I don't think these are the fights for them.
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              • Bread
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 03-16-08
                • 23726

                #8
                GL Josh.

                It's the UFC where anything can and will happen.

                I love the value for some of these dogs.
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                • The HOFF
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-02-08
                  • 4847

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JoshW
                  I am going all chalk.

                  Liddell
                  Franklin
                  Marquardt

                  I just think these matchups favor them as medium size favorites. I personally like Hammil and Evans as fighters, but I don't think these are the fights for them.
                  In total agreement with you.
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                  • Robyn
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 02-05-08
                    • 9681

                    #10
                    Absolutely TERRIBLE call. Matt Brown won the fight. Terrible. This should have been the biggest dog winner of the night.
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                    • teaserpleaser
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 08-14-08
                      • 26016

                      #11
                      Im on all Chalk as well... I have a small parlay Nate, Henderson, franklin
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                      • teaserpleaser
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 08-14-08
                        • 26016

                        #12
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                        • bmw530i
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                          • 04-19-08
                          • 4058

                          #13
                          Nice leg to the midsection...
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                          • Junkyard Dog
                            SBR MVP
                            • 03-12-07
                            • 4552

                            #14
                            Evans Baby!!!!
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                            • bmw530i
                              Restricted User
                              • 04-19-08
                              • 4058

                              #15
                              ahahah WOW Evans just laid the iceman out...
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                              • teaserpleaser
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 08-14-08
                                • 26016

                                #16
                                WTF!! I almost took chuck in my parlay with the rest of the Chalk.... glad i didnt what a knock out
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                                • flyingillini
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 12-06-06
                                  • 41219

                                  #17
                                  Wow, where does Chuck go from here? He is not done and I am sure he has a fight or 2 left in him.
                                  המוסד‎
                                  המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                                  • playa420
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 03-09-08
                                    • 881

                                    #18
                                    i cant believe rashad just knocked out lidell
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                                    • Robyn
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 02-05-08
                                      • 9681

                                      #19
                                      I predicted a second round Liddell knockout. Nobody believed me. Oops!

                                      Matt Brown was horribly robbed tonight. Terrible call by the judges.
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                                      • poetwarrior41
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 06-20-08
                                        • 963

                                        #20
                                        Huge props to Robyn............ She called the upset and the KO last night! I think Liddell is still on queer street, thats one of the alltime great KO's in UFC history,

                                        Robyn these beers are for you............
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                                        • Robyn
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 02-05-08
                                          • 9681

                                          #21
                                          I just had a feeling that Old Balls Liddell would get the 1-2 from Evans.
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                                          • sportsfanatic
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-10-07
                                            • 3967

                                            #22
                                            What an upset. Almost everyone had Liddell.
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                                            • playa420
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 03-09-08
                                              • 881

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Robyn
                                              I predicted a second round Liddell knockout. Nobody believed me. Oops!

                                              Matt Brown was horribly robbed tonight. Terrible call by the judges.
                                              yo robyn aka bread,aka jj gold aka whoever da fuck u r, i gotta give u mad props on ur mma skills
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                                              • hoopster42
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 02-12-08
                                                • 6099

                                                #24
                                                this is why i think ufc is so tough to predict, these types of one punch ko's, even more common in ufc than boxing
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                                                • BarcaTierrehenry
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 08-03-08
                                                  • 32

                                                  #25
                                                  Lidell was too old for Evans
                                                  Big old pops... OUT!!
                                                  Kudos to Evans!!
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                                                  • The HOFF
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 07-02-08
                                                    • 4847

                                                    #26
                                                    That was sicker than the Cro Cop KO. Chuckie just went limp.
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                                                    • Bread
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 03-16-08
                                                      • 23726

                                                      #27
                                                      That, coupled with his leg kick drop, put Evans with 2 of the sickest KO's in UFC history.

                                                      Who'da thunk it?

                                                      I guess Robyn...lol.

                                                      Well that was a tough beginning to break even on UFC. Should've been a huge payer if not for Matt Brown getting robbed.
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                                                      • JoshW
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-10-05
                                                        • 3431

                                                        #28
                                                        Evans now has one of the best KOs in UFC history. Hightly impressive. The Jackson/New Mexico camp now has two big wins over Liddell.

                                                        I am happy to get out of this UFC breaking even. Would have been a very nice payday, but Liddell losing ate up all my profits.

                                                        Griffen vs Evans for the LHW title December 27 it looks like. Dana White says they fight will happen. Just a matter of when. Nice to seem them not **** over Evans.

                                                        Did you see the crowd after Liddell got knocked out? Total shock. And all the fighters in the division were upset too. No big payday of Griffen vs. Liddell (or insert fighter here vs Liddell).

                                                        I hope Evans turns into more of a draw after this fight. He deserves it.
                                                        Last edited by JoshW; 09-07-08, 08:05 AM.
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                                                        • Bread
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 03-16-08
                                                          • 23726

                                                          #29
                                                          I'm with you Josh...I'm happy for Rashad. He's come a long way since his TUF days.

                                                          He was robbed against Tito, and proved himself against one of the elite.

                                                          Evans-Griffin. There will be a huge party here for that one. Fo sho.
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                                                          • Robyn
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 02-05-08
                                                            • 9681

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by playa420
                                                            yo robyn aka bread,aka jj gold aka whoever da fuck u r, i gotta give u mad props on ur mma skills
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