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  • BethBehrsAll
    Restricted User
    • 01-28-12
    • 4

    #1
    Beth Behrs All 2 Broke Girls MMA and Boxing thread!
    So me and my friend want to open up a cup cake shop but only have $1000. We're hoping to turn this starter money into $50,000 by betting on MMA and boxing since we love watching sweaty men roll around so why not make money off it. Hopefully we're sucessful because if we fail we're back to the brothel performing handy J's on strangers.

    UFC on Fox 2

    Bet 1
    Chris Weidman -150 to win vs. Demian Maia
    $300 to win $200

    Chris Weidman is an all American wrestler and Demian Maia is a world class BJJ guy, not to be confused with BBBJ. Weidman will be able to dictate where this fight takes place and thanks to his abilty to pick up BJJ quickly under the tutelage of his camp he should be able to avoid Demian's sub attempts. Here is the real secret nobody knows and that's the fact that Weidman has heavy hands and much improved striking. I expect Weidman to keep it standing and actually surprise people by rocking Maia on his feet and then finishing him with ground and pound.

    Bet 2
    Evan Dunham -375 to win vs. Nik Lentz
    Charles "Aloe Vera" -500 to win vs. Eric Wisely
    Chael Sonnen -400 to win vs. Michael Spitsbing
    Rashad Evans -190 to win vs. Phil Davis
    Parlay $210 to win $400

    Evan Dunham has great TDD and very good striking. Lentz is a strong grappler and will be looking to grind out a decision. Dunham might get taken down a few times but even if he is he has shown to be great off his back and very resilient and will pop back up with ease. He will pick apart Lent on his feet and should cruise to an easy decision or maybe even a late TKO or submission.

    Charles "Aloe vera" is a young stud who was being hyped by the UFC just a few months ago for good reason. He has explosive strikes, brilliant submissions, and athleticism to boot. He was also one of the youngest talents in the UFC and was thrown to the sharks against UFC vets like Jim Miller and "Cowboy" Cerrone. I think both were great learning lessons for him and now he returns action at a svelt 144 pounds. Normally I would be worried when a guy drops weight especially his first fight but "Aloe Vera" is young (which makes cutting easier), already had a small frame and more importantly made weight with ease at the weigh in. I expect him to put on highlight reel performance most likely ending with a submission.

    Chael Sonnen is a takedown machine. All you have to do is look at his fight with Yushin Okami as evidence. Okami has been described as a "wall" and a grappling monster but in his fight with Chael he looked more like Sonnen's girlfriend. Sonnen will come forward aggressively and like in past fights he will take down his opponent at will and grind out a decision. What makes things even tougher for Bisping is the fact that he took this fight on short notice and wasn't preparing for takedowns much less Sonnen's takedowns.

    Evans vs. Davis is the closest fight and the toughest of the group to call and if the other three fights cover I will most likely hedge this bet. Rashad is athletic, has one punch KO power, great wrestling, but has had cardio problems in the past and in a 5 round fight that has to be a concern. The real X factor though is Phil Davis' growth since he last stepped into the cage. Phil is a brilliant wrestler and his collegiate accomplishments dwarf Rashad's. He has already shown a perpensity to pick up BJJ as evidenced by his subs in his recent matches. The one problem he has is that he has yet to show he is a complete fighter because his lack of striking. Many wrestlers showed lackluster striking but eventually broke out. Guys like Evans, Koscheck, Maynard, and even Frankie Edgar started out as one dimensional guys but eventually turned into complete fighters. The question is will this be the fight where Davis' striking turns the corner and he starts to show he's a complete fighter. I say no as I see Rashad sprawl and brawling his way to a unanimous decision.

    Bet 3
    George Roop +120 to win vs. Cub Swanson
    Shane Roller -220 to win vs. Michael Johnson
    Evan Dunham -375 to win vs. Nik Lentz
    Charles "Aloe Vera" -500 to win vs. Nick Wisely
    Parlay $80 to win $300

    George Roop has shown he has drastically improved his striking since his days on the Ultimate Fighter. He toyed with the once number 1 contender Josh Grispi, he KOed the cement headed Korean Zombie, and was robbed but clearly beat Leonard Garcia. Against the best grappler in the division he was beat by Hatsu Hioki but Hioki mostly just held him down and was never able to put Roop in danger. Swanson doesn't have the takedowns or submissions of Hioki which means this will turn into a battle on the feet. Swanson like most opponents will struggle against Roops freakish reach at the weight class. Roop will pepper Swanson with punches and kicks and will eventually gain a TKO stoppage.

    Shane Roller has evolved into a complete fighter by adding KO power and submissions to his already decorated wrestling background. In Johnson he faces an athletic raw version of himself. Roller should be able to pull out the victory by relying on his experience and capitalizing on a Johnson's over aggressiveness. The mistake by Johnson will most likely be standing when he leaves himself wide open. Roller will clip him and follow up with either punches or an opportune choke and end the night. Also Roller's losses have mostly come against top ten guys (Henderson, Pettis, Guilliard) but he usually beats fringe guys (Njokuani, Tavares, Varner, and Castillo). Johnson falls into the latter.

    For Dunham and "Olive Vera" see previous bet.

    Start $1000
    $590 in action
    $410 bank
  • Vaughany
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 03-07-10
    • 45563

    #2
    lol This is gonna be fun
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    • Vaughany
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 03-07-10
      • 45563

      #3
      Like the picks tho
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      • Beelzebubzy
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 06-06-11
        • 6995

        #4
        Haha well played

        But roller being a complete fighter is a bit funny
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        • BethBehrsAll
          Restricted User
          • 01-28-12
          • 4

          #5
          Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
          Haha well played

          But roller being a complete fighter is a bit funny
          Agree maybe a bit of a stretch but he does have top notch wrestling, good boxing, and solid BJJ. He out grappled Catillo who is a leg humping blanket, but his takedowns were stuffed by Pettis and Henderson both who are great at defending takedowns and top 10 LW. He showed he could take a punch against Tavares and then KOed him. He was brutalized against Melvin but standing Melvin is a freakand also Melvin is still fringe top 10 LW. His cardio is lackluster and a concern but I think he should be good enough to beat Johnson unless Johnson has improved since we last saw him which is always a possibility in MMA with guys always improving.
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          • Vitooch
            SBR MVP
            • 09-26-11
            • 3470

            #6
            2 Broke Girls is the biggest piece of garbage I have ever seen
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            • KushMoney
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 07-11-11
              • 658

              #7
              Great job. Both of your losing picks were in the same (Smallest Wager) Parlay. Couldn't have gone any better. Nice call getting a good price on Weidman also.

              Tailed your 4 fight parlay that hit, and made one similar added Russow. thanks!
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              • JerseyRobby
                SBR MVP
                • 12-14-11
                • 1494

                #8
                *Due to certain rules on SBR my "friend" will no longer be able to post under their tag and will just post under mine but don't worry nothing has changed. This thread is just getting started!


                UFC on Fox 2 results


                Bet 1
                Chris Weidman -150 to win vs. Demian Maia
                $300 to win $200

                Result: Win $200



                Bet 2
                Evan Dunham -375 to win vs. Nik Lentz
                Charles "Aloe Vera" -500 to win vs. Eric Wisely
                Chael Sonnen -400 to win vs. Michael Spitsbing
                Rashad Evans -190 to win vs. Phil Davis
                Parlay $210 to win $400

                Result: Win $400

                Bet 3
                George Roop +120 to win vs. Cub Swanson
                Shane Roller -220 to win vs. Michael Johnson
                Evan Dunham -375 to win vs. Nik Lentz
                Charles "Aloe Vera" -500 to win vs. Nick Wisely
                Parlay $80 to win $300

                Result: Lose $80

                Cupcake Fund
                Previous balance: $1000
                New balance: $1580

                As soon as all the lines for UFC 143 are posted this week picks will be updated
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                • JerseyRobby
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-14-11
                  • 1494

                  #9
                  Originally posted by KushMoney
                  Great job. Both of your losing picks were in the same (Smallest Wager) Parlay. Couldn't have gone any better. Nice call getting a good price on Weidman also.

                  Tailed your 4 fight parlay that hit, and made one similar added Russow. thanks!
                  Good stuff! Always love hearing success stories
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                  • Vaughany
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 03-07-10
                    • 45563

                    #10
                    ha good job! I'll miss Beth Behr tho!
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                    • JerseyRobby
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-14-11
                      • 1494

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Vaughany
                      ha good job! I'll miss Beth Behr tho!
                      I will too! Luckily we can all catch her every Monday at 8:30 on CBS
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                      • JerseyRobby
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-14-11
                        • 1494

                        #12
                        UFC 143

                        Bet 1
                        Nick Diaz -180 to win vs. Carlos Condit
                        Josh Koshcheck -265 to win vs. Mike Pierce
                        Ed Herman to -300 to win vs. Clifford Starks

                        $160 to win $300

                        They say styles make fights and Nick Diaz on paper is a stle nightmare for Carlos Condit. Condit is talented striker, with excellent BJJ, and is a cardio machine but unfortunetly as good as he is in those aspects of the sport his opponent Nick Diaz may be better in all of them.

                        While Condit is much more explosive and aesthetcally appealing his opponent has gone toe to toe with two of the best strikers in the division and beaten them at their own game. B.J. Penn has been harshly criticized for his cardio but nobody has ever doubted his hands. He has had a HOF career that has seen him pick apart numerous elite opponents on their feet. When he fought GSP he was taken down and grinded out because GSP did not want to stand with him. When he lost to Frankie Edgar he lost because Edgar had better hand speed and foot movement. Both weren't forced to eat B.J.'s punches and almost all who do end up on the wrong end. Paul Daley is a one dimensional fighter and all his defeats have come because opponents decide to take him down and grind out decisions. His hi-light reel KO's of Scott Smith and Martin Kampmann and decision win against Jorge Masvidal show when you stand with "Semtex" you often lose. All three are strikers held in high reguard in the sport. Which brings us to Nick Diaz. The telling story is not that Diaz beat these two but the fact that he beat them in a fashion that nobody has. Diaz stood in front of them and absorbed their best shots and then gave it back until they said "No mas". I believe Condit does not possess the power that either of these two do which means Diaz should be able to withstand his best shots and come forward in his high pressure Terminator like style. Some may point to Condit's KO against Dong Hyun Kim as proof of his power but Kim is a judo/wrestler who has show limited striking ability.

                        The ground game is also very close but I give the edge to Diaz. Both are great with submissions and also dangerous off their back. Condit does have the edge in TDD but I don't expect that to be a factor because I don't see either guy aggressively pursing takedowns. I don't expect either guy to sub the other unless they are rocked by a punch and fall into a vulnerable position.

                        Both guys have shown exceptional cardio. Both have experienced fights over three rounds as champions in organizations outside the UFC and both have never shown a lack of conditioning.

                        The difference in this fight will be Nick Diaz's chin and mental toughness. I expect a thrill packed fight with each guy landing big shots but the difference will be Nick will hold up better much like he did against B.J. and Daley. This won't be a sprint it will be a marathon and while Condit might get the better of the exhanges early on Diaz's relentlessness will prevail in a decision or late stoppage.

                        Mike Pierce has been getting a lot of attention lately for his rugged style and toughness. In my eyes he is getting too much credit especially against a guy like Koscheck. Koscheck should be -350 because he can dictate where this fight takes place. Collegiate wrestling does not always equate to MMA wrestling success and their are numerous examples of this in the sport. Koscheck was a good college wrestler but what makes him a great MMA wrestler is the explosiveness of his shot. Outside GSP it's hard to find a guy who can take down opponents like Kos can in the WW division. I expect Kos to come out striking and if he is getting the better of the exchanges he will continue to stand but if he feels Pierce is a danger on the feet he will just grind out Pierce in classic Kos fashion.

                        Ed Herman looked to be finished a few years ago after a nasty knee injury in a fight against Aaron Simpson. Since his return he has shown maturity and improvements in all aspects of his game. His KO of Tim Credeur showed his improved technical striking and his submission of Kyle Noke was a gruesome thing of beauty. The man known as "Short fuse" now looks like a poised fighter who will not have mental lapses the younger version did (MacDonald, Maia). Clifford Starks is the classic raw, athletic, wrestler that we have seen numerous times in MMA. Starks has a great foundation but is not polished enough to beat a fighter as well rounded as Herman. Herman will outstrike him on the feet and then once Starks has tasted his own blood he will revert to wrestling like fighters of his mold usually do. Herman may get taken down but he is very talented off his back and he will be able to put Starks in a compromising situation that forces him to give up his back or a limb and from there Herman will get the tap.

                        Bet 2
                        Nick Diaz -180 to win vs. Carlos Condit
                        Josh Koshcheck -265 to win vs. Mike Pierce

                        $175 to win $200

                        See above

                        Bet 3
                        Scott Jorgensen +170 to win vs. Renan Barao
                        Roy Nelson +120 to win vs. Fabricio Werdum

                        $50 to win $250

                        Renan Barao is being hyped as a Brazillian superstar in the making following in the footsteps of Legends like Anderson Silva and Jose Aldo. He mauled a very dangerous opponent in Brad Pickett in impressive fashion. He is now pitted against Scott Jorgensen who offers a much different style and is an opponent who has shown to be extremely durable. Barao may win this fight but getting Jorgensen at +170 is good value. If Jorgensen wants to win this he will have to use his tenacious takedowns and hold down Berao while at the same time avoiding Berao's dangerous submission attempts. I love Jorgensen's heart and toughness and I expect him to avoid some dodgy situations but pull out a decision.

                        Fabricio Werdum is an extremely dangerous BJJ practioner and it's arguable that he's the best in the division. There is one big problem and that's he does not have great takedowns and fights start with both guys standing. Roy Nelson is no slouch on the ground either. I expect Nelson to be able to keep the fight standing for the most part but more importantly if the fight does hit the mat he will be technically sound enough to avoid submission attempts from Werdum. Despite what you have heard Werdum did not outstrike "The Reem" and more importantly he is a sloppy striker. Nelson should have a field day standing and for those who are worried about Nelson's cardio don't worry Werdum's cardio is piss poor late in fights and not the type to push the pace.

                        Start of event
                        $1580

                        In action
                        $485

                        Bank
                        $1095

                        Side note I wanted to bet on Justin Poirier but his line wasn't out yet and the lines were moving to fast. I don't expect it to be that big a deal because Poirier will probably be around -800.
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                        • JerseyRobby
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-14-11
                          • 1494

                          #13
                          UFC 144 & UFC on FX 2

                          Cupcake Fund

                          $1095

                          Bet 1
                          Jake Shields -280 to win vs. Sexyama
                          Yushin Okami -450 to win vs. Tim Boetsch
                          Thiago Alves to -125 to win vs. Martin Kampmann

                          $200 to win $400

                          Jake Shields is coming off two straight loses but that can be a bit deceiving because they were loses to arguably the best two WW in the world. Shields has always been one of the best grapplers in the sport but his achilles heel has always been his striking, specifically against explosive strikers. Shields has robotic technique and has a problem of leaving his chin up and open to be hit. When he has fought strikers like Martin Kampmann, Dan Henderson, and Paul Daley he has been rocked or KOed. Sexyama is an Olympic level judo practitioner who prefers to use his crisp striking. While Sexyama does possess better technical striking than Shields he does lack the power to put away Shields. The fact that Sexyama has questionable cardio and has faded late in fights makes things even more difficult for Japanese sensation. Shields may get tagged early on but he will eventually drag Sexyama to the mat where he will grind him out and wear him down. Shields should get a late sub over his fatigued opponent.

                          Much like Shields Yushin Okami has the distinction of having his last two loses come at the hands of the best two fighters in his division, Anderson Silva and Chael Sonnen. Okami will face Tim Boetsch, who has dropped to MW from 205 and has been successful in his first two fights since making the drop. Boetsch is a former division I wrestler who likes to use his wresting and "Barbarian" strength to take down his opponents where he has dangerous ground and pound. Okami has already fought a better version of Boetsch. Mark Munoz was a former 205 fighter who also was a decorated division I wrestler. Munoz was a better wrestler than Boetsch, better striker, and more athletic. Okami dispatched of his takedowns with ease and cruised to a rather easy decision. I expect him to do that again in front of the home crowd.

                          They say styles make match ups and while Thiago Alves and Martin Kampman are both closely ranked I believe this style matchup favors Alves. Thiago Alves is a top notch striker who possesses the most debilitating leg kicks in the division. The flaw in his game is his questionable dedication to the sport and his takedown defense. Alves has had much publicized problems with making weight. When the ATT fighter comes in shape and focused he is one of the best fighters in the divison. Alves' other flaw is often overblown. People question his ability to stop takedowns but I would argue he is a very tough fighter to take down. He has been taken down by GSP and Jon Fitch but EVERY fighter the two of them have faced has been taken down. In his fight against Rick Story, Alves avoided and stuffed a mojority of his take down attempts and lost to via close decision. Kampman came to the UFC with a reputation as a great striker but has shown he has outstanding grappling as well. Kampman might have a slight technical striking advantage but Alves the distinct power advantage. I expect the fight to take place on the feet and the difference will be Alves takes a punch well while Kampman's questionable chin will not withstand the brutal shots from Alves. Alves will get Kampman to back up which will limit Kampman's strikes and Alves will eventually rock Kampman and then finish him with his underrated ground and pound.

                          Bet 2
                          Jake Shields -280 to win vs. Sexyama
                          Yushin Okami -450 to win vs. Tim Boetsch

                          Steve Cantwell +230 to win vs. Riki Fukuda

                          $75 to win $335

                          Steve Cantwell was a promising young talent and once the WEC champion but now after injuries the fighter finds himself with questionable future. Cantwell has lost 4 straight and if he loses on saturday it will be safe to say his days in the UFC will be numbered. Cantwell has great technical striking but does lack KO power. Along with his striking he has a slick ground game. His opponent is Riki Fukuda who will most likely be looking to take Cantwell down. I'm not going to talk much about Fukuda because to me this bet is all about Cantwell. I like that Cantwell has his back against the wall and if he is healthy I think we will see a glimpse of the guy who people once expected to do big things in the sport. The other big factor is that Fukoda is not an explosive fighter and will basically be looking to hold on and win a decision. I believe there is much value in Cantwell and see him winning a decision by outriking Fukuda.


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                          • JerseyRobby
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-14-11
                            • 1494

                            #14

                            UFC on FX 2

                            Cupcake Fund
                            $820


                            Bet 1
                            Thiago Alves to win inside the distance +475 vs. Martin Kampmann

                            $150 to win $712

                            Bet 2
                            Thiago Alves to win -130 to win vs. Martin Kampmann

                            $170 to win $130

                            My summary for why I placed these bets is in the previous post.


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