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  • PunisherIND
    SBR MVP
    • 02-24-11
    • 4983

    #1
    Bellator 58


    does lombard really warrant being such a huge favorite??
  • NunyaBidness
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-26-09
    • 9345

    #2
    No, absolutely not. But Prangley still isn't in play range either IMO. 3 rounder is on Prangley's side.
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    • Vaughany
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 03-07-10
      • 45563

      #3
      Yep, sometimes the best play is to not play at all
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      • TheCalculator
        SBR MVP
        • 10-10-11
        • 1683

        #4
        Originally posted by Vaughany
        Yep, sometimes the best play is to not play at all
        Amen. It's like surfing -- the waves you don't chase are just as important as the ones you go after. Lots of wasted energy (and in our case money) chasing "bad waves".
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        • bjpenn85
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 02-17-11
          • 5059

          #5
          Its more likely that i vote for this guy, than bet on prangley this weekend, sorry for serving old news for those of you that have already seen this fine gentleman:
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          • Educ8d Degener8
            SBR MVP
            • 01-12-10
            • 3177

            #6
            Originally posted by PunisherIND

            does lombard really warrant being such a huge favorite??
            Heck no.
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            • sirchadwick1
              SBR MVP
              • 06-02-10
              • 1375

              #7
              Lombard v. Prangley could very well be the next GSP v. Serra (in terms of a huge upset brewing).
              Yes Hector is a badass and should run through him... but he should not be anything over -600 here.
              Prangley does have a little something left and plenty of experience. With that said, I'm also not touching this one.
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              • flickavic
                SBR High Roller
                • 07-23-10
                • 181

                #8
                What about the main event here guys? I really havent seen anyone giving Chandler much of a shot.I admit I havent seen alot of Alvarez.Is he that good?
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                • NunyaBidness
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 07-26-09
                  • 9345

                  #9
                  Yes, Alvarez is that good. Top 5 in his weightclass. Chandler can't stop him, only chance is humping him. But Eddie's wrestling is very good, and he's dangerous in every position.
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                  • PunisherIND
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-24-11
                    • 4983

                    #10
                    i think alvarez-chandler will be competitive. chandler looked good vs, patricky freire.
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                    • sirchadwick1
                      SBR MVP
                      • 06-02-10
                      • 1375

                      #11
                      Chandler is very legit, but I think the wrestling cancels out in this one. Alvarez will most likely get the best of him in the standup, but I don't like his price. No play.
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                      • rocky mattioli
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-26-10
                        • 1263

                        #12
                        alvarez is better all around...and i don`t care how much chandler`s strikng has improved,it ain`t nowhere near as good as alvarez`......

                        that said,chandler has that great wrestling background and that can negate an awful lot of stuff...alvarez` wrestling isn`t on par with chandler`s......when alvarez considers striking,he has to also consider the possibility of ending up on his back...and that`s not easy....it will inhibit his striking....

                        the question is,can chandler take alvarez down?...and keep him down for at least 3 rounds?...cause that`s what he`ll have to do....

                        i think that chandler would be a handful for pretty much most of the elite 155`ers in the ufc because of his wrestliing......it`s that good....

                        but alvarez is an elite all-around fighter....

                        in the ufc,this would be a co-main event,imo...alvarez is one of my personal faves......but chandler is very scary....

                        alvarez dissed chandler at the weigh-in and chandler wasn`t real happy about it...

                        5 rounds of hell.....
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                        • flickavic
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 07-23-10
                          • 181

                          #13
                          Alvarez -260 small

                          Lombard/Sandro/Chavez JR.(hbo sat. boxing)parlay.(This bet is big enough to cover the alvarez bet in case Chandler beats him.)

                          Of course if the parlay misses I have a loosing card..
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                          • rocky mattioli
                            SBR MVP
                            • 08-26-10
                            • 1263

                            #14
                            Originally posted by flickavic
                            Alvarez -260 small

                            Lombard/Sandro/Chavez JR.(hbo sat. boxing)parlay.(This bet is big enough to cover the alvarez bet in case Chandler beats him.)

                            Of course if the parlay misses I have a loosing card..

                            like the parlay...
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                            • THE_LOCKSMITH
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 08-25-08
                              • 7237

                              #15
                              what a 1st round, i though Alvarez was done
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                              • GoGoGadget
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 03-18-09
                                • 570

                                #16
                                wow amazing fight!
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                                • brooks85
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-05-09
                                  • 44709

                                  #17
                                  dam that was an awesome fight
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                                  • v1y
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 05-02-11
                                    • 1138

                                    #18
                                    anyone who says alvarez is overrated after this is an idiot. chandler just proved he's the real deal, although anyone who saw him fight patricky and woodard would know this already.
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                                    • Jesus Christ
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 05-25-11
                                      • 935

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by v1y
                                      anyone who says alvarez is overrated after this is an idiot. chandler just proved he's the real deal, although anyone who saw him fight patricky and woodard would know this already.
                                      I don't think you know what overrated means....is Eddie a bad fighter...hell no he's awesome...is he a top 5 lightweight no way in hell...hence overrated.
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                                      • NunyaBidness
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 07-26-09
                                        • 9345

                                        #20
                                        Eddie has one hole in his game, his chin is going. He used to get rocked once per fight, every fight, this time he got rocked over and over. When Chandler got the sub, it wasn't because he finally outwrestled Alvarez, Eddie was in lala land.

                                        Not to take anything away from Chandler, he looked great, congrats to Chandler backers.
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                                        • Educ8d Degener8
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-12-10
                                          • 3177

                                          #21
                                          The Jade - Mercedes inverted triangle...

                                          Priceless.

                                          (just watching my dvr of this event now)
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                                          • PunisherIND
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-24-11
                                            • 4983

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8
                                            The Jade - Mercedes inverted triangle...

                                            Priceless.

                                            (just watching my dvr of this event now)
                                            lol. indeed. one of the rare instances where the ufc should follow bellator's lead.
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                                            • PunisherIND
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-24-11
                                              • 4983

                                              #23
                                              anyone with a bodog or sportsbook acct can get dantas at +180 right now. most books have vila at -140 to -160. free money anyone?
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                                              • Vaughany
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 03-07-10
                                                • 45563

                                                #24
                                                Yeah was +225 on paddy until recently, now at +187.5
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                                                • rocky mattioli
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 08-26-10
                                                  • 1263

                                                  #25
                                                  on dantas.........wish i`d been able to catch him in the +300 range,but +180 is enticement enough........one loss to a 14-1 japanese fighter in japan...the other loss a dq....the guy looked very talented to me....
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                                                  • TheCalculator
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 10-10-11
                                                    • 1683

                                                    #26
                                                    Dantas is VERY fast and mobile. I think the only way Vila wins is if he makes a mistake and Vila catches him flush with a big punch.
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                                                    • FightFightFight
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 03-21-11
                                                      • 594

                                                      #27
                                                      Vila could win on takedowns. Hes pretty quick too, for a round or two.
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