Dos Anjos +205 v. Sirtoropolous

Educ8d Degener8 · 06-28-11, 05:00 PM

Ill dropped 2.5u on it already...

sirchadwick1 · 06-28-11, 05:08 PM

I will be on this one also when it hits my book... I expected Dos Anjos to be at around +150.

koscheckbaby · 06-28-11, 05:10 PM

I don't know how the **** he lost to Stephens. He had such a grappling edge. He's lost a couple fights he should have been able to win, so I don't know if I'm confident in playing him.

Hannibal · 06-28-11, 05:21 PM

He was beating stephens until the monster uppercut. We won't see that type of bomb from gsot, and I doubt stephens will ever land some like that again in his career. Fight with griffon was close, and he almost ripped his leg off. I have never seen that type of leg lock before or again.
I don't really remember the guida fight, but that was an injury, not a submission. Don't think gsot's wrestling will provide the same problems.

Ladle · 06-28-11, 06:19 PM

I think we could see Sotiropoulos replicate what he did to Stevenson and Pellegrino. Standing up, I think they're pretty evenly matched: Sotiropoulos is probably the better boxer, while dos Anjos is definitely the better kicker. That said, I think the most salient point here is that Sotiropoulos is more skilled on the ground, and will probably dominate dos Anjos positionally if he can get top position. Can dos Anjos stop the takedowns? I'm dubious. He sprawled well early on against Guida but was still taken down on several occasions, and Guida isn't exactly the most technically sharp of wrestlers. As for Sotiropoulos, while his takedowns looked absolutely woeful against Siver, he only needs to make some minor adjustments to correct them. George is very good at getting position on a leg, he just needs to make an effort to actually finish takedowns by sweeping the leg, or forcing his opponent backwards, as opposed to just standing there and doing nothing. It's also worth noting that, prior to the Siver fight, Sotiropoulos' takedowns have been very effective, even against decent wrestlers like Lauzon and Stevenson.

bogbat · 06-28-11, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by Ladle

I think we could see Sotiropoulos replicate what he did to Stevenson and Pellegrino. Standing up, I think they're pretty evenly matched: Sotiropoulos is probably the better boxer, while dos Anjos is definitely the better kicker. That said, I think the most salient point here is that Sotiropoulos is more skilled on the ground, and will probably dominate dos Anjos positionally if he can get top position. Can dos Anjos stop the takedowns? I'm dubious. He sprawled well early on against Guida but was still taken down on several occasions, and Guida isn't exactly the most technically sharp of wrestlers. As for Sotiropoulos, while his takedowns looked absolutely woeful against Siver, he only needs to make some minor adjustments to correct them. George is very good at getting position on a leg, he just needs to make an effort to actually finish takedowns by sweeping the leg, or forcing his opponent backwards, as opposed to just standing there and doing nothing. It's also worth noting that, prior to the Siver fight, Sotiropoulos' takedowns have been very effective, even against decent wrestlers like Lauzon and Stevenson.

Been a long time since I watched the fight but I thought Sotiropoulos got token down by Stevenson but swept to top position on a couple of occasions.

EDIT>

I agree with the rest of your post. Sotiropoulos had been making steady improvements with his boxing with every fight prior to the Stevenson fight. However, he often comes out a bit tense in the first round which cost him early in his fight vs Siver. Sotiropoulos actually threw a few kicks that landed vs Siver, it will be interesting to see if he attempts to incorporate more kicks into his game. Sotiropoulos is a very hard worker. MMA is his life and I suspect that he would have worked diligently on his wrestling since his first UFC lost.

I need to watch some more of Dos Anjos's fights, I don't recall much other than his fight vs Guida.

Hannibal · 06-28-11, 06:36 PM

Is gsot's ground game really that superior? Dos anjos makes a living off his grappling game.

Ladle · 06-28-11, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by bogbat

Been a long time since I watched the fight but I thought Sotiropoulos got token down by Stevenson but swept to top position on a couple of occasions.

Sotiropoulos definitely took him down in the first round, and I believe he got a trip takedown in the third as well. But yes, as you pointed out, he swept Stevenson with an omoplata at one point too. Pretty much totally dominated Joe on the ground, actually, which speaks volumes about his grappling ability.

Is gsot's ground game really that superior? Dos anjos makes a living off his grappling game.

Yeah, most likely. He took Stevenson and Pellegrino to task on the ground, and both of them are legit black belts.

Kaladarus · 06-28-11, 06:47 PM

I really wanted to bet Sotiropoulos here, but the line is just too much. +200 isn't enough for me to bet Anjos right now, but if it moves up a little more I think I'll be forced to play that. I believe Sotiropoulos is better in most aspects of the fight. I don't think his edge overall is that significant though.

bogbat · 06-28-11, 06:49 PM

Sotiropoulos was a skilled black belt before he competed on TUF but he took his BJJ to the next level when he started training under Eddie Bravo at 10th planet jiu jitsu.

Ladle · 06-28-11, 06:53 PM

Originally posted by Kaladarus

I really wanted to bet Sotiropoulos here, but the line is just too much. +200 isn't enough for me to bet Anjos right now, but if it moves up a little more I think I'll be forced to play that. I believe Sotiropoulos is better in most aspects of the fight. I don't think his edge overall is that significant though.

I'll be taking Sotiropoulos by decision. Don't think he taps dos Anjos.

Hannibal · 06-28-11, 06:57 PM

Dos anjos was a legitamite submission threat to griffin. Who else has done that? Not just riding his back.
Gsot tooled lauzon..but wasn't that after lauzon visibly fatigued?
I haven't been impressed with stevensons grappling. He's strong, but technically...nothing special.

Kaladarus · 06-28-11, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by Ladle

I'll be taking Sotiropoulos by decision. Don't think he taps dos Anjos.

Good idea. I agree, his most likely path to victory is a decision here.

koscheckbaby · 06-28-11, 07:07 PM

I stupidly bet Stevenson back then when I wasn't fully researching bets. I was at a bar screaming, "You stupid Australian jerk!!!" every time Sotiropolous was doing well. I was so angry. His stupid old man body and posture. He completely dominated Stevenson. Ever since, I just hate the guy and can't get myself to bet against him. Siver made him look like a clown though.

Really unsure what to think of G-Sot. His "big" wins, Pellegrino and Stevenson sorta seem not that impressive anymore given both have lost since and not done well at all. Also, Pellegrino may have been seconds away from a TKO. Lauzon also looked great until his usual gassing.

Ladle · 06-28-11, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by koscheckbaby

I stupidly bet Stevenson back then when I wasn't fully researching bets. I was at a bar screaming, "You stupid Australian jerk!!!" every time Sotiropolous was doing well. I was so angry. His stupid old man body and posture. He completely dominated Stevenson. Ever since, I just hate the guy and can't get myself to bet against him. Siver made him look like a clown though

koscheckbaby · 06-28-11, 07:12 PM

Hannibal · 06-28-11, 07:16 PM

Hahha he looks worse from the side...hunches over kinda wierd. Doesn't look like an athlete at all. Saggy body ahhahha

koscheckbaby · 06-28-11, 07:17 PM

Even the way he gets his takedowns annoy me. He hunches over and grabs a leg like an 80 yr old ex wrestler with bad knees would show their grandson. His wrestling seems terrible to me, but it got Pellegrino down, who is pretty decent. Guy must really be strong to get guys down the way he does.

The HOFF · 06-28-11, 07:28 PM

LOVE Dos Anjos here. I'm large on Dos Anjos at +200.

Vaughany · 06-29-11, 10:48 AM

Highly doubt Dos Anjos can finish GSot and dont think GSot will finish Dos Anjos either. Fight to decision and GSOt by decision for me

sirchadwick1 · 06-29-11, 11:08 AM

RDA is at +200 at 5dimes right now so I went ahead and put 1u on him for now. I don't think GSot should be that much of a fav.

bogbat · 06-30-11, 01:00 PM

Keep driving RDA down my friends.

rocky mattioli · 06-30-11, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Highly doubt Dos Anjos can finish GSot and dont think GSot will finish Dos Anjos either. Fight to decision and GSOt by decision for me

this....another overreaction to someone`s last fight......

i`ve learned never to underestimate an opponent with child bearing hips....

Vrakas · 06-30-11, 05:31 PM

anyway this goes it should be a great fight.gsot should win.

Kaladarus · 06-30-11, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by Ladle

I'll be taking Sotiropoulos by decision. Don't think he taps dos Anjos.

Line just came up at 5dimes -110.

sirchadwick1 · 06-30-11, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by Kaladarus

Line just came up at 5dimes -110.

G-Sot is at +160 by decision on bodog if you're on him.

Kaladarus · 06-30-11, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by sirchadwick1

G-Sot is at +160 by decision on bodog if you're on him.

Nice, I didn't see that before thanks.

illmatick · 07-01-11, 08:50 PM

Wheels are in motion.

plans are coming together.

betting patterns are being brought to the forefront.

Old-man-bodies are looking for praise.

Jaw lines have been reconstructed .

Anjos is officially getting steamed now.

pinnacle is finally starting to budge on the +205 they opened at. Good sign for us Dos Anjos backers. My confidence went up by about 8%.

Even bookmaker dropped him to the lowest price since opening. +180 right now

It looks like Cruz, Wiman, Dos anjos and bader are getting steamed the hardest after the weigh-ins.

MMAbetMASTA · 07-01-11, 09:01 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Highly doubt Dos Anjos can finish GSot and dont think GSot will finish Dos Anjos either. Fight to decision and GSOt by decision for me

Ahh, answered one of my questions in your other thread! Yea I really really....... REALLy like this to go the distance.... odds haven't come out on my site for this one yet though...

GunShard · 07-02-11, 07:12 PM

Wow, that was fast. Didn't expect it to end in KO.

Duff85 · 07-02-11, 07:20 PM

Dogs are barking at UFC today! Had this and Hougland so far. Got Wiman later.

Vaughany · 07-02-11, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA

Ahh, answered one of my questions in your other thread! Yea I really really....... REALLy like this to go the distance.... odds haven't come out on my site for this one yet though...

BIG SHOCK...Really didn't envisage that happening

bonestock · 07-02-11, 07:25 PM

Wiman isnt a dog in my book. Both at -115

Duff85 · 07-02-11, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by bonestock

Wiman isnt a dog in my book. Both at -115

True - Got Wiman at +110 here.