James Toney vs Ken Shamrock

**sirchadwick1** · 06-24-11, 05:31 AM

This would be a hard fight to bet on... for some reason I just see fix written all over it. Seriously though, how could you bet on either guy with confidence? I don't even care to watch really.

**bjpenn85** · 06-24-11, 06:50 AM

NOT GOING THE DISTANCE, thats all baby

**rocky mattioli** · 06-24-11, 06:53 AM

Originally posted by sirchadwick1

This would be a hard fight to bet on... for some reason I just see fix written all over it. Seriously though, how could you bet on either guy with confidence? I don't even care to watch really.

one thing we do know...it won`t be a battle of wits....

**sirchadwick1** · 06-24-11, 07:26 AM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

NOT GOING THE DISTANCE, thats all baby

Yeah that prop will probably be -500.

**Straight Cash** · 06-24-11, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by sirchadwick1

This would be a hard fight to bet on... for some reason I just see fix written all over it. Seriously though, how could you bet on either guy with confidence? I don't even care to watch really.

That's for sure, cant really trust either of these guys.

**Kaladarus** · 06-24-11, 08:01 AM

Interesting fight for sure. Both of these guys suck completely. I wonder what the line will be.

**bjpenn85** · 06-24-11, 08:19 AM

yeah. both suck. But the line will be 1.30 shamrock or something. He at least have fought mma. I am not sure if its reasonable to hedge with toney KO. Fun fight.

**sirchadwick1** · 06-24-11, 08:48 AM

I was reading a little about this bout and just so you guys know it involves MODIFIED rules according to recent reports (not in stone yet though). When the fight hits the ground for 30 seconds it is immediately stood back up. Considering the fact that Shamrock looks like a fragile old man now and probably won't even be able to get Toney down, I'd say that there is a good chance he goes to sleep.

**GoldRush7** · 06-24-11, 09:20 AM

wow what a joke this is

**THE_LOCKSMITH** · 06-24-11, 09:23 AM

throw in Kimbo Slice for a triple threat match

**iQon** · 06-24-11, 10:40 AM

A lot of value in Shamrock by ankle lock @ +200.

**mrtomk** · 06-24-11, 12:14 PM

The bloodyelbow article in the OP opens with "The moment you've been waiting for is here...". That's sarcasm, right?

**Dad** · 06-24-11, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

NOT GOING THE DISTANCE, thats all baby

Thats a lock.

I never say anything is a lock.

But thats a lock.

**Jordan23** · 06-24-11, 12:54 PM

This fight won't happen.

**koscheckbaby** · 06-24-11, 01:08 PM

Toney has one of the worst boxing styles to try out MMA. He's a counterpuncher without one punch power, contrary to his nickname. I wouldn't think he could even beat Shamrock

**Hannibal** · 06-24-11, 01:21 PM

^ and toney has pretty much no footwork. He just stands there and rolls his shoulders - which even shamrock can exploit with easy takedowns.

**snake11eyes** · 06-24-11, 01:40 PM

I'm usually a sucker for these freak show fights, but even I have no interest in this one.

**cheeese** · 06-24-11, 02:41 PM

It can't be a freakshow without Hong Man Choi or Bob Sapp

**omalley21** · 06-24-11, 04:32 PM

I would watch. It would be hilarious. Id take Toney too.

**jacktheknife** · 06-25-11, 07:49 PM

30 seconds on the ground? That's Smackgirl rules. Serious, look it up.

**SportsPedagogy** · 06-25-11, 08:28 PM

I would bet this fight doesn't happen ... Still waiting for shamrock Vs Kimbo, Frank, Tank Abbott. I'm pretty sure that my Amatuer record is mediocre enough that I have a better chance of fighting Shamrock this year then Toney

**FindTheLock** · 06-25-11, 11:36 PM

Originally posted by mrtomk

The bloodyelbow article in the OP opens with "The moment you've been waiting for is here...". That's sarcasm, right?

I've been holding my breath since the second Tony tapped to couture. Can't wait to see a bout between a boxer that doesn't speak any language known to mankind and an old crusty broken down martial artist turned commentator. Man my blood is pumping just thinking about it, I can finally breath again.

**raidersfan** · 06-25-11, 11:41 PM

Toney takes this by KO for sure.

**THE_LOCKSMITH** · 06-26-11, 05:10 AM

let the hype begin

**capone1899** · 06-26-11, 10:23 AM

Haha Toney pissing him off already

**snake11eyes** · 06-26-11, 10:34 AM

LMAO. You gonna push me. You gonna push me son.

**Scottish** · 06-26-11, 12:00 PM

Ken gonna be on his back, lookin up at the stars, he didn't pay his 'lectric bill so his lights must go out!

**xelance** · 06-26-11, 12:09 PM

toney is going to beat the living crap out of shamrock.

**99Boxster** · 06-26-11, 04:32 PM

Might as well make it a ladder match with a briefcase full of the prize money in it at the top

**JohnGalt2341** · 06-27-11, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by snake11eyes

I'm usually a sucker for these freak show fights, but even I have no interest in this one.

I'm a sucker for freak shows too for some reason. And I actually AM interested in this one. Just as long as they televised the Weigh-In's which would probably be better than the actual fight. Here are some other fighters I'd like to see on the card: Eric "Butterbean" Esch, Jose Conseco, Hong Man Choi, Kimbo Slice, Tank Abbott, lets see... who have I forgotten? Throw in a few Sumo Wrestlers for good measure. Who wouldn't watch a card like this?

**HauntingTheHoly** · 06-28-11, 11:34 PM

Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH

throw in Kimbo Slice for a triple threat match

Hahaha!

**Pin2Win** · 06-29-11, 08:50 AM

Toney is just picking on the old people huh? I would love to see him get submitted but Royce Gracie too

... I did like the comment about throwing in a fight with Kim Bo

**Pabinator** · 06-29-11, 11:35 AM

Haha I cant wait too see this!

**hels** · 06-29-11, 01:55 PM

Ken Shamrock by chicken wing submission.