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  • snake11eyes
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 07-28-10
    • 618

    #1
    Bellator 43
    What do you guys think.
  • urge2kill
    SBR MVP
    • 10-27-09
    • 1722

    #2
    I probably won't have any bets on it. None of the lines have much appeal.
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    • bjpenn85
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 02-17-11
      • 5059

      #3
      jose vega +280, do you feel this line is correct? i havent seen much of vega og chase bebe, but havent chase bebe just lost against wec guys?
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      • sirchadwick1
        SBR MVP
        • 06-02-10
        • 1375

        #4
        Jose Vega is probably the only bet I'll make in this one. Beebe is the rightful favorite... but I think that line is off.
        Don't see any value elsewhere.
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        • Vaughany
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 03-07-10
          • 45563

          #5
          Jose Vega is quicker and has better striking but Beebe is superior wrestler. Vega shouldnt be worse than +200 though.
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          • sirchadwick1
            SBR MVP
            • 06-02-10
            • 1375

            #6
            With some of the crazy calls I've seen in Bellator, I feel a lot better putting money on dogs with a shot(as long as it's not against Pitbull, Warren, Askren, Konrad).
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            • jesuseatsnubs
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 04-27-11
              • 507

              #7
              guys go with Rick Hawn , Jose Vega , Bryan Baker and cole province .

              I don't know much about Bellator though at all ... just letting ya all know .. so don't take any picks i chose seriously .

              Edit : Choosing Rick Hawn instead of Jay Hieron

              edited : Friday May 6 10:54 pm
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              • Chairib
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 03-08-10
                • 917

                #8
                hey jesus watcha thinkin about
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                • illmatick
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 01-05-09
                  • 5456

                  #9
                  Vega has some heat behind his left hook. Played him at +300. Beebe's physical strength should be the difference in the fight, though. Probably a late submission.

                  I can't imagine Hawn getting steamed any further. Line moved 40 cents overnight.

                  Might jump on him if he falls back into the +145 range.
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                  • illmatick
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 01-05-09
                    • 5456

                    #10
                    Joey Gorczynski took in some strong money last night as well.


                    Haven't been able to confirm this but impressive if true....

                    - 3x Oklahoma State Champ, a career record of 167-14.
                    - 5x High School All-American

                    Anyone able to find the footage of his fight with Hector Lombard?
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                    • NunyaBidness
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 07-26-09
                      • 9345

                      #11
                      Originally posted by illmatick
                      Joey Gorczynski took in some strong money last night as well.


                      Haven't been able to confirm this but impressive if true....

                      - 3x Oklahoma State Champ, a career record of 167-14.
                      - 5x High School All-American

                      Anyone able to find the footage of his fight with Hector Lombard?
                      He was outwrestled pretty easily by Marcus Aurelio.
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                      • Vaughany
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 03-07-10
                        • 45563

                        #12
                        Originally posted by illmatick
                        Joey Gorczynski took in some strong money last night as well.


                        Haven't been able to confirm this but impressive if true....

                        - 3x Oklahoma State Champ, a career record of 167-14.
                        - 5x High School All-American
                        Perhaps explains his nickname... "The Takedown Wizard" then! Dudes he has lost to most recently have decent records but the guys he's beaten arn't very impressive.
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                        • illmatick
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 01-05-09
                          • 5456

                          #13
                          Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                          He was outwrestled pretty easily by Marcus Aurelio.
                          Just watched this fight. Looked like he gassed after that first takedown attempt, lol. From what I could gather form one of his interviews, he supposedly took that fight on short notice.

                          Originally posted by Vaughany
                          Perhaps explains his nickname... "The Takedown Wizard" then! Dudes he has lost to most recently have decent records but the guys he's beaten arn't very impressive.
                          after a closer look I wasn't too impressed with his wrestling. Gets swept way too often. Stinson pretty active off of his back too.

                          There might have been value at +260 but I just don't see it at the current price.
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                          • snake11eyes
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 07-28-10
                            • 618

                            #14
                            I played Baker/Hawn parlay for 2 to 1. Maybe I'll throw a little on Vega or put him in a parlay since you guys seem to like him.
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                            • Vaughany
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 03-07-10
                              • 45563

                              #15
                              Bryan Baker's Mrs is HOT!...

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                              • sirchadwick1
                                SBR MVP
                                • 06-02-10
                                • 1375

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Vaughany
                                Bryan Baker's Mrs is HOT!...

                                Yes sireee! However, her annoying siren of screams is atrocious.
                                Next time I watch Baker fight, it's going on mute. Congrats on his engagement!
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                                • NunyaBidness
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 07-26-09
                                  • 9345

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by illmatick
                                  Joey Gorczynski took in some strong money last night as well.
                                  Did anybody hear why this fight didn't happen?
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                                  • Chairib
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 03-08-10
                                    • 917

                                    #18
                                    What happened to Riggs? That bums me out.
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                                    • illmatick
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-05-09
                                      • 5456

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by illmatick
                                      I can't imagine Hawn getting steamed any further. Line moved 40 cents overnight.

                                      Might jump on him if he falls back into the +145 range.
                                      Hawn hit +150 again before the fight. Lost a small fortune on him.
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                                      • snake11eyes
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 07-28-10
                                        • 618

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by illmatick
                                        Hawn hit +150 again before the fight. Lost a small fortune on him.
                                        Yea he cost me a couple nice parlays I had going. I actually thought he won the fight 2to1, but maybe because I bet on him it swayed my decision. I'm going to say I was on the wrong side of a bad decision again.
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                                        • cheeese
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 02-22-11
                                          • 784

                                          #21
                                          A lot of people feel that way
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                                          • NunyaBidness
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 07-26-09
                                            • 9345

                                            #22
                                            Money pouring in on Brett Cooper, anyone know why? Injury?
                                            (oops wrong thread)
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                                            • sirchadwick1
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 06-02-10
                                              • 1375

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                              Money pouring in on Brett Cooper, anyone know why? Injury?
                                              (oops wrong thread)
                                              I noticed that too.. Doesn't matter though, great arb opportunity right now by taking Shlemenko at -155 and Cooper at +165.
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                                              • Vaughany
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 03-07-10
                                                • 45563

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by sirchadwick1
                                                I noticed that too.. Doesn't matter though, great arb opportunity right now by taking Shlemenko at -155 and Cooper at +165.
                                                The profit margin would be minute tho, unless u've got a book letting u bet 5 figures on each!
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                                                • NunyaBidness
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 07-26-09
                                                  • 9345

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by sirchadwick1
                                                  I noticed that too.. Doesn't matter though, great arb opportunity right now by taking Shlemenko at -155 and Cooper at +165.
                                                  If you can afford the swings its better to just bet the soft side than take an arb, or if one side has lower limits than the other, bet through it and increase your return on the soft side.
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                                                  • sirchadwick1
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 06-02-10
                                                    • 1375

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                    The profit margin would be minute tho, unless u've got a book letting u bet 5 figures on each!
                                                    I always take an arb when I see it. Ended up betting $500 on Shlemenko at -155 and $310.41 on Cooper at +165 (2 different books) and made $12.17. May not seem like much... but in the long haul, it adds up.
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                                                    • Ladle
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 03-21-11
                                                      • 835

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by sirchadwick1
                                                      I always take an arb when I see it. Ended up betting $500 on Shlemenko at -155 and $310.41 on Cooper at +165 (2 different books) and made $12.17. May not seem like much... but in the long haul, it adds up.
                                                      I'd feel very, very sorry for you if that fight had somehow ended in a draw.
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                                                      • sirchadwick1
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 06-02-10
                                                        • 1375

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Ladle
                                                        I'd feel very, very sorry for you if that fight had somehow ended in a draw.
                                                        Why? If it was a draw and I had a straight bet on each guy, my $ would just be refunded. I wasn't betting on a prop or anything. I bet bodog and 5dimes only. Have you lost money by betting on a fighter to win and the fight going to a draw? I always thought it was considered a PUSH. When Frankie/Gray and BJ/Fitch went to a draw I received my funds back.
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                                                        • Ladle
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 03-21-11
                                                          • 835

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by sirchadwick1
                                                          Why? If it was a draw and I had a straight bet on each guy, my $ would just be refunded. I wasn't betting on a prop or anything. I bet bodog and 5dimes only. Have you lost money by betting on a fighter to win and the fight going to a draw? I always thought it was considered a PUSH. When Frankie/Gray and BJ/Fitch went to a draw I received my funds back.
                                                          In that case, I got screwed. I had a straight bet on Maynard against Frankie which wasn't returned to me.
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                                                          • sirchadwick1
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 06-02-10
                                                            • 1375

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Ladle
                                                            In that case, I got screwed. I had a straight bet on Maynard against Frankie which wasn't returned to me.
                                                            Which book?
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                                                            • Ladle
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 03-21-11
                                                              • 835

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by sirchadwick1
                                                              Which book?
                                                              I believe it was Sportsbook.
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                                                              • sirchadwick1
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 06-02-10
                                                                • 1375

                                                                #32
                                                                Sorry to hear that Ladle. I'm sure it all evens out eventually though considering you probably get better lines. I definitely would be careful arbing large funds though, no doubt!
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                                                                • Ladle
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 03-21-11
                                                                  • 835

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by sirchadwick1
                                                                  Sorry to hear that Ladle. I'm sure it all evens out eventually though considering you probably get better lines.
                                                                  I appreciate that bro. And yeah, I'm a lucky man to have Paddy at my disposal!
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