I got a local casino doing that very rate. I aim to jump on it before they come to their senses. The question is how hard does one go?
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I personally see no sense in playin Rivera straight up. Only way he wins this is by TKO/KO so take the prop at +400 or better.Comment -
That'd be swell, except there isn't a casino in this state that'll take a prop bet on MMA.
I'll probably tail lasky minus a few. Best he got was +300 and even that seems appealing. Bisping is a spoiler but I was never impressed by Akiyama, and this world beater status conferred on him by the books is a bluff worth taking a potshot at.Comment -
Ah I see, well +315 is worth a pop, Bisping is also having trouble with his elbow, still feeling the effects from a staph infection tht he had a recently. He's on antibiotics at the moment tho so isnt likely to effect his training much more.Comment -
Also, should of sed that to get even better odds I'll be taking Rivera KO of the Night rather than Rivera straight up at +300 or Rivera by TKO/KO at +400 to +450. I expect Rivera KO of the Night to be +600 to +800 range which would be good value IMO as I dont see any KO's in the other main card fights. I expect Condit/Lytle to go to decision, Fitch to win by decision, Noke to beat Camozzi by decision, and Sotiropolous to win by Submission. So I dont forsee much competition on the main card for KO of the Night. I think Bisping has the next highest chance of getting it but then he doesnt have one punch power so one of the undercard KO's that are possible might be more deserving, as if he does finish Rivera I envisage it being by TKO and similar to the Kang victory.Comment -
+325 is decent, but Rivera won't win. You should save your money this time.Comment -
Rivera isnt winning this fight. He's too slow and his footwork isn't good and im friends with Jorge. But this is set up for Bisping to win.Comment -
Funny Rivera video takin piss out of Bisping's power (or lack of it)!:
Dont know if this is smart mind-games or not from Rivera, may well just antagonize Bisping enough to make him get into a brawl, but Rivera is gonna end up looking very silly if Bisping does finish him! It probly wont be from a punch but Bisping has good knees in the clinch.Last edited by Vaughany; 02-06-11, 03:47 PM.Comment -
Bisping fights like a scared pussy. I have zero doubt he will take advantage of another gift matchup and takedown Rivera and sub him. Rivera got ragdolled by Martin Kampmann and marginally beat some subpar competition recently. Tagging No Head movement Quarry shouldnt hold much valueComment -
Rivera has some value, but Bisping by decision again...Comment -
hmm i was on rivera but i think you might be right about the TDs. i keep forgetting that bisping's wrestling has really improved, and against non-wrestlers, he really showcases his GnPComment -
Yeah that's a good advantage that Bisping has in this one, if he does find himself boxed in by Rivera or just taking punishment in general he will be able to do what he did with Kang and take him down. He took Kang down three times in the second round of their fight before finishing him. He also got a single on Wanderlei and and shoved Wanderlei to the ground in the first round of their fight, as well as defending Wanderlei's single takedown attempt well. In the second round Bisping got a nice double-leg and another one at the end of the round. Wanderlei got up comfortably from all 4 of Bisping's takedowns but I wouldnt expect Rivera to be able to escape like Wanderlei can. More recently in the Akiyama fight, Bisping got a takedown in first round (Akiyama got up straight away though), then Bisping attempted two more takedowns in the first rounds but failed to get Sexyama to the mat. Bisping found his rhythm standing in second round and didnt attempt any more takedowns. So in each of Bisping's last 3 fights he has attempted and landed takedowns, and I'd say that all three of those fighters either have better takedown defence or present a greater threat off their backs than Rivera does.
Should also bare in mind that although Bisping may seem like a dumb, brash Brit at times, a title contention bout with either Marquadt or Okami rests on Bisping winning this so he will undoubtedly fight smart and ensure that he gets the win rather than get caught up in an "entertaining" brawl with Rivera (he is actually quite smart when it comes to MMA and gameplanning, Hendo fight notwithstanding!).Last edited by Vaughany; 02-07-11, 07:02 AM.Comment -
It MIGHT not be a sub, but it'll definitely be a ground based win. Bisping will be scared to stand with him. As you said, he shoots for takedowns on everyone. Why would he stop when he's fighting a guy who is most deficient on the ground and is a threat to him standing? This guy runs away in standup fights, since he doesn't want to get hit. He will definitely takedown Rivera.Comment -
Out of curiosity what is the sports book de Vaughany line on Not Bisping by submission in the first?Comment -
????? you mean -1100?
Otherwise I windmill slam and put all my points on it.Comment -
Riveras not very good but his ground game isnt terrible either.Comment
