Anyone taking Jim Miller over Charles Oliveira?

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  • bogbat
    SBR MVP
    • 03-21-10
    • 1843

    #1
    Anyone taking Jim Miller over Charles Oliveira?
    Jim Miller is more experienced and I don't see a clear advantage for Oliveira. Oliveira probably has the better grappling but I don't see him submitting Miller or dominating him positionally to a decision.

    You can get Miller at as high as +118 right now.
  • lasker
    SBR MVP
    • 01-27-10
    • 1683

    #2
    Seems like everyone is taking Miller except me.
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    • kiefynugs
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 11-20-10
      • 572

      #3
      I think Aloe Vera has a good shot but the odds were too good for Miller.
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      • Vaughany
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 03-07-10
        • 45563

        #4
        Got Miller but hedged it with the fight to go to decision.
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        • The HOFF
          SBR MVP
          • 07-02-08
          • 4847

          #5
          I am very conflicted on this fight. I originally loved Oliveira. He looked good against Escudero, but Efrain was over weight and gassed bad. Efrain did have him down and was pounding him in the first round. I wish I could see the video again but don't have it. Miller did not look good in his fight against Bocek, and I thought he lost. But the more I think about it the more I like Miller. He has the wrestling to be able to control Oliveira and take him down. I just don't know about this one.
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          • Vrakas
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 02-27-10
            • 627

            #6
            miller is the better striker and his ground game is very good.miller is the underdog so he is the best bet on the card.
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            • rocky mattioli
              SBR MVP
              • 08-26-10
              • 1263

              #7
              i thought bocek won the miller fight,also...but bocek`s probably a better pure "wrestler" than oliveira...
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              • lasker
                SBR MVP
                • 01-27-10
                • 1683

                #8
                Originally posted by Vrakas
                miller is the better striker and his ground game is very good.miller is the underdog so he is the best bet on the card.
                miller is the better striker?
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                • urge2kill
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-27-09
                  • 1722

                  #9
                  I'm on Miller and Miller by decision for 1u each.
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                  • bogbat
                    SBR MVP
                    • 03-21-10
                    • 1843

                    #10
                    Originally posted by urge2kill
                    I'm on Miller and Miller by decision for 1u each.
                    What odds did you get for miller via decision?
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                    • urge2kill
                      SBR MVP
                      • 10-27-09
                      • 1722

                      #11
                      Originally posted by bogbat
                      What odds did you get for miller via decision?
                      +204. Was a few days ago on 5dimes.
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                      • sundin4prez
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-09-10
                        • 1970

                        #12
                        yep right here
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                        • BIGDAY
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 02-17-10
                          • 48245

                          #13
                          I'm on Miller +115 for 2 Units! I just feal like this fight is as close to a PK as any I've seen. I believe Popularity is in the favor of Oliveira which is driving the value of Miller higher imo. Should be a great fight.
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                          • Kaladarus
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-11-09
                            • 1876

                            #14
                            They are both excellent on the ground and have good submissions. I don't think either of them can put the other in serious danger and finish this fight. Like Hoff has stated Miller is likely to control Oliviera and therefore secure a decision victory. It should be a good fight, but I got to give a small edge to Miller and at +odds it should be an easy play.
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                            • JediMind87
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 10-04-10
                              • 45

                              #15
                              Originally posted by lasker
                              miller is the better striker?
                              Me too. I'm with you Lasker, I've Got 1 Unit on Oliveira.
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                              • Poppa Catfish
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-22-10
                                • 3352

                                #16
                                I'm on Oliveira as well.
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                                • JuicedUp
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-20-10
                                  • 3396

                                  #17
                                  Im rolling with Charles Oliveira as well. He is the real deal.
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                                  • jin2daj
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 11-01-09
                                    • 816

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by lasker
                                    Seems like everyone is taking Miller except me.
                                    im on oliveira too.
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                                    • vassman86
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-11-08
                                      • 1042

                                      #19
                                      I like Oliviera, but haven't made up my mind on that fight yet. Miller knows what to do in the octagon, and can grind out a decision.
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                                      • Kaladarus
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-11-09
                                        • 1876

                                        #20
                                        What's going on with the Miller line it just shot up to +158 and near that area on several sites.
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                                        • Mr.Kitty
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-10-09
                                          • 1880

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Kaladarus
                                          What's going on with the Miller line it just shot up to +158 and near that area on several sites.
                                          I have also noticed this, the line has continued to rise despite the fact that most ppl are betting on Miller.
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                                          • Vaughany
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 03-07-10
                                            • 45563

                                            #22
                                            Yee just got the arb...put 15.3 units on Miller at +153 on pinnacle and 20 units on Oliveira at -130 on stan james so guaranteed 3.5 units profit if Miller wins and over stake of 35.3 units back if Oliveira wins.
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                                            • Mr.Kitty
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 11-10-09
                                              • 1880

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Vaughany
                                              Yee just got the arb...put 15.3 units on Miller at +153 on pinnacle and 20 units on Oliveira at -130 on stan james so guaranteed 3.5 units profit if Miller wins and over stake of 35.3 units back if Oliveira wins.
                                              Yeah thats smart, I did this aswell, guaranteed profit here we come!
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                                              • Vaughany
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 03-07-10
                                                • 45563

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Mr.Kitty
                                                Yeah thats smart, I did this aswell, guaranteed profit here we come!
                                                Gd shit Mr Kitty! Not seen u on here much recently, u just sticking to footy bets mostly?
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                                                • Vaughany
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 03-07-10
                                                  • 45563

                                                  #25
                                                  McCorkle has gone from +151 down to +118 as well...guess people wer waiting to see if he got any higher, it's been at +151 for a few days so must of been pounded now.
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                                                  • Mr.Kitty
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 11-10-09
                                                    • 1880

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                    Gd shit Mr Kitty! Not seen u on here much recently, u just sticking to footy bets mostly?
                                                    Yes, but I stopped posting as much in the soccer forum, its not worth it. You hardly get any appreciation or response. Think I´ll be hanging here more now, there are some solid guys around here, lots of knowledge.
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                                                    • Mr.Kitty
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-10-09
                                                      • 1880

                                                      #27
                                                      There is a rumour going around on the web that Jim Miller woke up this morning feeling sick, and thats why the odds on him has gone up. There was a thread about this on the sherdog forum but looks like they closed it. Nothing is confirmed.
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                                                      • BIGDAY
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 02-17-10
                                                        • 48245

                                                        #28
                                                        These line changes are nuts!
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                                                        • BIGDAY
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 02-17-10
                                                          • 48245

                                                          #29
                                                          Kos is as high as +435. That's to be expected as big money rolls in on St Pierre.
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                                                          • jacktheknife
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 09-25-10
                                                            • 1217

                                                            #30
                                                            Was wondering what happened. Got +150 while I was in town. Figured there might be something, but said **** it and jumped on it for 4u. If he's really ill, the docs will probably cancel and if not then god bless Sherdog rumor monkeys.
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                                                            • WIZARDOFBEANTOWN
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 03-18-10
                                                              • 13389

                                                              #31
                                                              ya i got the prick good luck
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                                                              • WIZARDOFBEANTOWN
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 03-18-10
                                                                • 13389

                                                                #32
                                                                i had danzig +225 2x don't f\*\*k with a man who has everything to lose!!!
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                                                                • Poppa Catfish
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 09-22-10
                                                                  • 3352

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Congrats Miller backers
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                                                                  • fadeCOVERS4me
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 02-27-10
                                                                    • 386

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by WIZARDOFBEANTOWN
                                                                    i had danzig +225 2x don't f\*\*k with a man who has everything to lose!!!
                                                                    damn good call!! and good call with miller 2
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                                                                    • lasker
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 01-27-10
                                                                      • 1683

                                                                      #35
                                                                      great call miller backers, I should have listened.
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