UFC 127 2/26 in Sydney

**Vaughany** · 11-14-10, 06:35 AM

Rivera confirms he'll be fighting Michael Bisping in Australia and he's going to "**** HIM UP"!

**Poppa Catfish** · 11-14-10, 06:57 AM

Condit vs Lytle, Rivera vs Bisping?

niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice

**brooks85** · 11-24-10, 04:49 PM

Rumoured bouts in the works include:

The following fights have been confirmed by reliable sources, but not yet added to ufc.com.

Welterweight bout: Jon Fitch vs. B.J. Penn
Lightweight bout: George Sotiropoulos vs. Dennis Siver

*Bisping has yet to sign on for the fight but has said he is fighting Feb 27

**brooks85** · 11-30-10, 10:43 AM

add

kyle noke vs chris camozzi

alexander gustafsson vs james te-huna

**Vaughany** · 11-30-10, 11:03 AM

Originally posted by brooks85

add

kyle noke vs chris camozzi

alexander gustafsson vs james te-huna

Another two great fights. Te-Huna is a beast but he's gonna have serious ring-rust, Gustafsson should beat him.

**Vaughany** · 12-25-10, 08:59 AM

R people really betting on Bisping at -300 to -375 range!?

**lasker** · 12-25-10, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

R people really betting on Bisping at -300 to -375 range!?

how can you not? he has the most dynamic punch in the world.

**Vaughany** · 12-25-10, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by lasker

how can you not? he has the most dynamic punch in the world.

Ha yes but that's why I'm gonna resist and wait till Bisping KO of the Night is available!

**Vaughany** · 01-13-11, 12:59 PM

Bodog have released odds for Condit vs Lytle:

Condit = -170

Lytle = +140

**stefan084** · 01-17-11, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Bodog have released odds for Condit vs Lytle:

Condit = -170

Lytle = +140

i saw this. i think this is low as i believe condit will win this relatively easily. i was expecting over -200

**brooks85** · 02-07-11, 01:10 PM

Main card

Welterweight bout: B.J. Penn vs. Jon Fitch
Middleweight bout: Michael Bisping vs. Jorge Rivera
Lightweight bout: George Sotiropoulos vs. Dennis Siver
Welterweight bout: Carlos Condit vs. Chris Lytle
Middleweight bout: Kyle Noke vs. Chris Camozzi

Preliminary card (ESPN U.K.)

Lightweight bout: Ross Pearson vs. Spencer Fisher
Heavyweight bout: Chris Tuchscherer vs. Mark Hunt

Preliminary card

Light Heavyweight bout: James Te-Huna vs. Alexander Gustafsson
Middleweight bout: Nick Ring vs. Riki Fukuda
Lightweight bout: Maciej Jewtuszko vs. Curt Warburton
Light Heavyweight bout: Anthony Perosh vs. Tom Blackledge
Featherweight bout: Zhang Tie Quan vs. Jason Reinhardt

**Vaughany** · 02-07-11, 03:18 PM

Tuscherer vs Hunt on Prelim card and not Te-Huna vs Gustafsson =

**brooks85** · 02-07-11, 04:48 PM

ya that is a bummer, i have no idea why noke/camozzi is making the broadcast and not on the undercard. Gusta/Huna is going to be a banger, 27 pro fights between them and only 2 decisions.

side note

saw earlier pierce is heading down to hawaii to train with penn, not exactly a lot of time tho.

**Vaughany** · 02-07-11, 04:52 PM

Te Huna is an animal, just hope he's not too rusty with the year lay-off. Well Noke is an Aussie, their second best fighter and TUF alumni so not that surprising they've put his fight on main card even tho Gusta/Huna should be there.

**GunShard** · 02-08-11, 06:45 AM

I heard some complaints that this is one of the worst cards.

**Poppa Catfish** · 02-08-11, 06:51 AM

these comments are totally fresh

**brooks85** · 02-09-11, 09:34 PM

condit is out with an injury

Page Not Found - Bloody Elbow

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/2/9/1985177/carlos-condit-injured-in-doubt-for-ufc-127

**phillybadboy** · 02-09-11, 10:21 PM

damn man

**lasker** · 02-09-11, 11:01 PM

argh.

**urge2kill** · 02-10-11, 12:34 AM

That sucks. Wonder when my bet will be cancelled.

**Vaughany** · 02-10-11, 04:44 AM

What's with all these Jackson guys fuckin up ther knees, must be spending too much time on them!

I predict Mike Pierce stepping in seeing as he's trainin with BJ anyway.

**Vaughany** · 02-10-11, 09:33 AM

Reports that Brian Ebersole will step in...

Page not found – Fight News Australia

http://www.fightnewsaustralia.com/component/content/article/1-latest-news/568-brian-ebersole-to-replace-condit-at-ufc-127

**Educ8d Degener8** · 02-10-11, 11:31 AM

There goes my plan for easy money on the FoTN prop... ;(

**snake11eyes** · 02-10-11, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Reports that Brian Ebersole will step in...

Page not found – Fight News Australia

http://www.fightnewsaustralia.com/component/content/article/1-latest-news/568-brian-ebersole-to-replace-condit-at-ufc-127

Thats some funny shit.

**Vaughany** · 02-10-11, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8

There goes my plan for easy money on the FoTN prop... ;(

Yeah, but Bisping vs Rivera has a strong chance of getting it now I reckon. But has implications for my intended Sotiropolous Submission of the Night prop bet...if Lytle fights Ebersole then there's a very strong chance he subs him.

**xelance** · 02-10-11, 02:20 PM

well, there goes one of the bets I really liked! Damnit.....I dont like getting my money back on bets like this one. I believe my bet was cancelled yesterday

**THE_LOCKSMITH** · 02-10-11, 02:21 PM

Lytle fight still might get FOTN

**Camdemonium** · 02-14-11, 01:19 PM

Is this parlay unreasonable?

Pending2/26/11 12:00pm Props Fighting 1005 Penn wins inside distance +448* vs Not Penn inside distance
Pending2/26/11 12:00pm Props Fighting 1105 Rivera wins inside distance +494* vs Not Rivera inside distance
Pending2/26/11 12:00pm Props Fighting 1209 Sotiropoulos wins inside distance -125* vs Not Sotiropoulos inside distance

I put down 0.5 units and stand to win 28.8.

It seems to me that if Penn is going to win, it's not by dec. and same for Rivera. I also see Sotiropoulos strangling Siver. Am I out of my mind or is this just a good deal?

**Vaughany** · 02-14-11, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by Camdemonium

Is this parlay unreasonable?

Pending2/26/11 12:00pm Props Fighting 1005 Penn wins inside distance +448* vs Not Penn inside distance
Pending2/26/11 12:00pm Props Fighting 1105 Rivera wins inside distance +494* vs Not Rivera inside distance
Pending2/26/11 12:00pm Props Fighting 1209 Sotiropoulos wins inside distance -125* vs Not Sotiropoulos inside distance

I put down 0.5 units and stand to win 28.8.

It seems to me that if Penn is going to win, it's not by dec. and same for Rivera. I also see Sotiropoulos strangling Siver. Am I out of my mind or is this just a good deal?

Not unreasonable at all but personally I wouldnt do it! Firstly, if you think Sot is gonna strangle Siver thn why not wait till Sot by submission is available and use that in the parlay at better odds? I dont recall ever seein GSot GNP somebody to victory (perhaps except against Mitichyan). Similarly with Rivera, if he is going to win I'd give him 5% chance of doing it by sub, 5% chance of it being by decision, and 90% by TKO/KO, so again I dont see the point in having him inside the distance when Rivera by TKO/KO will be available. With Penn it is slightly different as although I dont see him finishing Fitch at all, if he was to do it I would imagine it would be by submission 75% of time and TKO/KO 25% of the time, but not such a margin as G Sot's and Rivera's likelyhoods of finishing by TKO/KO or Sub. GSP absolutely battered Fitch and could not finish him, I highly doubt that Penn is going to be able to offer anything more other than perhaps a greater submission threat, but it is likely he'll be on his back if he is on the ground where he is less dangerous.

**Camdemonium** · 02-14-11, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Not unreasonable at all but personally I wouldnt do it! Firstly, if you think Sot is gonna strangle Siver thn why not wait till Sot by submission is available and use that in the parlay at better odds? I dont recall ever seein GSot GNP somebody to victory (perhaps except against Mitichyan). Similarly with Rivera, if he is going to win I'd give him 5% chance of doing it by sub, 5% chance of it being by decision, and 90% by TKO/KO, so again I dont see the point in having him inside the distance when Rivera by TKO/KO will be available. With Penn it is slightly different as although I dont see him finishing Fitch at all, if he was to do it I would imagine it would be by submission 75% of time and TKO/KO 25% of the time, but not such a margin as G Sot's and Rivera's likelyhoods of finishing by TKO/KO or Sub. GSP absolutely battered Fitch and could not finish him, I highly doubt that Penn is going to be able to offer anything more other than perhaps a greater submission threat, but it is likely he'll be on his back if he is on the ground where he is less dangerous.

I guess I'll be keeping my eyes open for the fitch by dec, riv by ko, and sot by sub parlay later. Thanks.

**Camdemonium** · 02-14-11, 05:27 PM

Have you guys seen this? Bisping had a bad staph inf.

Bisping almost forced to pull out of Rivera battle

http://www.espn.co.uk/ufc/sport/story/73349.html

Michael Bisping has revealed to ESPN that he almost had to withdraw from his UFC 127 showdown with Jorge Rivera due to a staph infection in his arm

**Vaughany** · 02-14-11, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by Camdemonium

Have you guys seen this? Bisping had a bad staph inf.

http://www.espn.co.uk/ufc/sport/story/73349.html

Yee I mentioned it a few weeks ago on the other thread, it only effected his first couple of weeks of training. With all this shit talkin Rivera is doing I think Bisping's extra motivation will make up for it!

**Straight Cash** · 02-14-11, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by Camdemonium

Is this parlay unreasonable?

Pending2/26/11 12:00pm Props Fighting 1005 Penn wins inside distance +448* vs Not Penn inside distance
Pending2/26/11 12:00pm Props Fighting 1105 Rivera wins inside distance +494* vs Not Rivera inside distance
Pending2/26/11 12:00pm Props Fighting 1209 Sotiropoulos wins inside distance -125* vs Not Sotiropoulos inside distance

I put down 0.5 units and stand to win 28.8.

It seems to me that if Penn is going to win, it's not by dec. and same for Rivera. I also see Sotiropoulos strangling Siver. Am I out of my mind or is this just a good deal?

For the risk I think it's pretty solid!

**urge2kill** · 02-14-11, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Not unreasonable at all but personally I wouldnt do it! Firstly, if you think Sot is gonna strangle Siver thn why not wait till Sot by submission is available and use that in the parlay at better odds? I dont recall ever seein GSot GNP somebody to victory (perhaps except against Mitichyan). Similarly with Rivera, if he is going to win I'd give him 5% chance of doing it by sub, 5% chance of it being by decision, and 90% by TKO/KO, so again I dont see the point in having him inside the distance when Rivera by TKO/KO will be available. With Penn it is slightly different as although I dont see him finishing Fitch at all, if he was to do it I would imagine it would be by submission 75% of time and TKO/KO 25% of the time, but not such a margin as G Sot's and Rivera's likelyhoods of finishing by TKO/KO or Sub. GSP absolutely battered Fitch and could not finish him, I highly doubt that Penn is going to be able to offer anything more other than perhaps a greater submission threat, but it is likely he'll be on his back if he is on the ground where he is less dangerous.

Problem with waiting for the TKO and sub props to come out is you can lose value. Rivera inside the distance moved from +494 yesterday to +382 today. When they eventually put out the TKO prop it probably won't even be better than +494 now.