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  • cooldavid3169
    SBR Hustler
    • 06-19-10
    • 92

    #1
    If you aint cheating you aint trying.....
    Seems like everyone is using them these days. I dont think it is a bad as people say I still dont think athletes should be using them while they are competing. Before or after their career isnt as bad to me. Weigh in your thoughts.
  • brooks85
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-05-09
    • 44709

    #2
    has carwins or his manager released a statement yet?

    I read some interesting article yesterday that said one of the specific steroids he is accused of taking causes cardio problems. IF he had continued using it, they said it could definitely explain the sudden shutdown of his body round 2 against lesnar. But, at the same time, it could have just been exhausted. That doesnt seem very likely to me tho. Watching it live that right and multiple times on replay, what happened to carwin did not seem like natural exhaustion imo.
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    • bogbat
      SBR MVP
      • 03-21-10
      • 1843

      #3
      Originally posted by brooks85
      has carwins or his manager released a statement yet?

      I read some interesting article yesterday that said one of the specific steroids he is accused of taking causes cardio problems. IF he had continued using it, they said it could definitely explain the sudden shutdown of his body round 2 against lesnar. But, at the same time, it could have just been exhausted. That doesnt seem very likely to me tho. Watching it live that right and multiple times on replay, what happened to carwin did not seem like natural exhaustion imo.
      Seemed natural to me. Throwing that many punches while carrying all that muscle mass + the adrenalin dump would gas you.

      That said I do believe he has done roids just from comparing how he looked pre ufc to now.
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      • phillybadboy
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 12-11-09
        • 9383

        #4
        damn carwin used roids ,didn't know that
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        • Collegepays
          SBR High Roller
          • 01-03-10
          • 198

          #5
          Yep, Carwin and Lesnar both were probably juicing in the build up to that fight.
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          • KCJMAC
            SBR High Roller
            • 08-03-10
            • 133

            #6
            Very disappointed if the allegations are true.
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            • jin2daj
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 11-01-09
              • 816

              #7
              sad about carwin.

              i still think lesnar has never used steroids before though.
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              • pat venditto
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 05-07-07
                • 14347

                #8
                All these pricks are cheaters. It's a shame.
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                • Ian
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 11-09-09
                  • 6072

                  #9
                  I don't see what the big deal is about steroids. I want athletes to use steroids, PCP too. I cannot think of any sport that wouldn't be improved by crazed roidheads who are impervious to pain.
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                  • rake922
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-23-07
                    • 11692

                    #10
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                    • Educ8d Degener8
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-12-10
                      • 3177

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Collegepays
                      Yep, Carwin and Lesnar both were probably juicing in the build up to that fight.
                      Source?
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                      • Vaughany
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 03-07-10
                        • 45563

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8
                        Source?
                        ha yee some call it that!
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                        • cooldavid3169
                          SBR Hustler
                          • 06-19-10
                          • 92

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8
                          Source?

                          MOBILE, Ala. -- A federal judge today handed down a four-year prison term to a local pharmacist convicted of participating in a nationwide conspiracy to illegally sell anabolic steroids made in Mobile.

                          there you go i can find probably 20 other fighters that have used them.
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                          • cooldavid3169
                            SBR Hustler
                            • 06-19-10
                            • 92

                            #14
                            Funny part about everything is that if an actor gets plastic surgery to look younger/better no one says anything, or a porn star gets a boob job no one says anything. A good documentary to watch is Bigger, Faster, Stronger.
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                            • Educ8d Degener8
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-12-10
                              • 3177

                              #15
                              Originally posted by cooldavid3169
                              Funny part about everything is that if an actor gets plastic surgery to look younger/better no one says anything, or a porn star gets a boob job no one says anything. A good documentary to watch is Bigger, Faster, Stronger.
                              I just watched that flick last night. Raises some good points indeed.
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                              • jquest
                                Restricted User
                                • 08-09-10
                                • 43

                                #16
                                They should try making steroids legal in all sports and then waiting to see how the market feels aboit it. If less money OS being made, then ban them and if it turns out that pe.ople like tbe higber level of performance thn we are all better for jt
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                                • Pabinator
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 10-04-09
                                  • 1238

                                  #17
                                  Pretty much everyone is using it like Jose Canseco said
                                  Shut your mouth when you talk to Me!
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                                  • Vaughany
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 03-07-10
                                    • 45563

                                    #18
                                    Carwin did look a lot less toned and ripped in recent fights compared to his earlier fights.
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                                    • Ntlie
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 08-16-10
                                      • 1

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Ian
                                      I don't see what the big deal is about steroids. I want athletes to use steroids, PCP too. I cannot think of any sport that wouldn't be improved by crazed roidheads who are impervious to pain.
                                      I disagree strongly with that, how about honest competition in sports? What's the point to use steroids, so we would watch the steroidised robotic machine fights in the future instead of beautiful sports full of honor and proud for honest victory!!! Nope... Thank you so much, but no, thank you!
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                                      • cooldavid3169
                                        SBR Hustler
                                        • 06-19-10
                                        • 92

                                        #20
                                        When it comes to millions of dollars that throws rules out the window. If you could make millions more it changes everything.
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                                        • brooks85
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 01-05-09
                                          • 44709

                                          #21
                                          Roy Nelson vs. Shane Carwin war on twitter:

                                          Roy Nelson - "Just woke up and was reading the mma news websites and only one had real news ufc champ shane carwin steroids court case. I am surprised that athletes in mma do steroids ;( that explains body types."




                                          Shane Carwin - "I love Roy Nelson trying to elevate his status by talking smacks. Hopefully he is doing so on a treadmil. Some have rolls he has a bakery."
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                                          • cooldavid3169
                                            SBR Hustler
                                            • 06-19-10
                                            • 92

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by brooks85
                                            Roy Nelson vs. Shane Carwin war on twitter:

                                            Roy Nelson - "Just woke up and was reading the mma news websites and only one had real news ufc champ shane carwin steroids court case. I am surprised that athletes in mma do steroids ;( that explains body types."




                                            Shane Carwin - "I love Roy Nelson trying to elevate his status by talking smacks. Hopefully he is doing so on a treadmil. Some have rolls he has a bakery."
                                            Thanks i love this, They should set a match up Big Country can take a shot and he has more of a gas tank why not.
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                                            • vassman86
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 03-11-08
                                              • 1042

                                              #23
                                              It seems that it's becoming more common for athletes to take performance enhancing drugs this day and age. When they get caught, it'd be nice if they'd actually own up to it *cough*Clemens*cough*
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                                              • butter23
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 08-06-10
                                                • 184

                                                #24
                                                bj is not gonna lose, sorry

                                                aint happening
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                                                • Tree Rollins
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-16-09
                                                  • 3968

                                                  #25
                                                  With the technology there are always undetectable peds out there. This problem with never go away.
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                                                  • Chairib
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 03-08-10
                                                    • 917

                                                    #26
                                                    I don't have a problem with people using steroids in MMA and don't even see it as cheating.
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                                                    • sirchadwick1
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 06-02-10
                                                      • 1375

                                                      #27
                                                      Carwin v. Big Country!!!!!

                                                      Pluuueeeeeeeeeease.
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                                                      • Straight Cash
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 11-20-09
                                                        • 2202

                                                        #28
                                                        They're always gonna come up with something to beat the tests...
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                                                        • jin2daj
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 11-01-09
                                                          • 816

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Chairib
                                                          I don't have a problem with people using steroids in MMA and don't even see it as cheating.
                                                          what makes you say that?

                                                          its totally cheating.
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                                                          • k13
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 07-16-10
                                                            • 18104

                                                            #30
                                                            Shitty football players in High School juice and people question if "pros" use anything in physical combat sports.
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                                                            • Collegepays
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 01-03-10
                                                              • 198

                                                              #31
                                                              OT but I know some highschool football players who used BULL steroids!!!? Fuckin crazy
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                                                              • shady610
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-12-06
                                                                • 1570

                                                                #32
                                                                Im a believer in the asterisks on careers. IF YOU GET CAUGHT JUICING. not this bull shiv reported crap or circumstantial stuff.

                                                                If you do it to recover from an injury thats one thing, but to leap ahead of the competition i dont like that.
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                                                                • cooldavid3169
                                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                                  • 06-19-10
                                                                  • 92

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by shady610
                                                                  Im a believer in the asterisks on careers. IF YOU GET CAUGHT JUICING. not this bull shiv reported crap or circumstantial stuff.

                                                                  If you do it to recover from an injury thats one thing, but to leap ahead of the competition i dont like that.
                                                                  What about the people who cheated with other means before steroids. Like Luke Cummo and his caffeine enema. Had like some ridiculous amount of caffeine in his body like 10,000 plus percent.
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                                                                  • 36mafia
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 11-08-09
                                                                    • 2389

                                                                    #34
                                                                    its an athletes job as a competitor to use any tool he can get his hands on to better his game
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                                                                    • vassman86
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 03-11-08
                                                                      • 1042

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by cooldavid3169
                                                                      What about the people who cheated with other means before steroids. Like Luke Cummo and his caffeine enema. Had like some ridiculous amount of caffeine in his body like 10,000 plus percent.
                                                                      LMAO I gotta read up about that one!
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