Rampage vs Machida

jin2daj · 07-21-10, 11:56 AM

i actaully htink rampage is willing to fight ANYONE in the UFC excpet machida.

THE_LOCKSMITH · 07-21-10, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by brooks85

Conflicting reports on when this fight is going down but the story says it is at a yet announced Nov. 20th event so I am guessing Germany is getting bumped again and UFC 122 will take place on the 20th.

don't think it will be bumped, 122 is November 13th (Germany) and 123 is November 20th. Yes its a week apart but that seems to be the trend

August 1 UFC on Versus 2
August 7 UFC 117

August 18 WEC 50
August 28 UFC 118

Sept 15 Fight Night 22
Sept 25 UFC 119

October 16 UFC 120 (London)
Octover 23 UFC 121

Nov 13 UFC 122 (Germany)
Nov 20 UFC 123 (machida/Jackson)

I'm guessing the Germany and London cards will be free so it looks like they'll have a free card around a week before a PPV in many of the upcoming events

Dingo17 · 07-21-10, 12:40 PM

Machida should have this by whatever he wants. Rampage is at a distinct style disadvantage here and doesn't seem to care about fighting too much anymore

Pabinator · 07-21-10, 12:51 PM

Machida should win unless he is gun shy

Vaughany · 07-21-10, 01:07 PM

Easy money straddle here....Machida by decision and Rampage by TKO/KO!

lasker · 07-21-10, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Easy money straddle here....Machida by decision and Rampage by TKO/KO!

It's not at all out of the question for Machida to finish Rampage by TKO.

Vaughany · 07-21-10, 01:25 PM

I dont see that happening...Rampage hasnt been TKO'd or KO'd since the Wanderlei Silva pride days and I think Machida will be a lot more cautious after the Shogun KO and resort back to being more conservative and evasive against Rampage

brooks85 · 07-21-10, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH

don't think it will be bumped, 122 is November 13th (Germany) and 123 is November 20th. Yes its a week apart but that seems to be the trend

August 1 UFC on Versus 2
August 7 UFC 117

August 18 WEC 50
August 28 UFC 118

Sept 15 Fight Night 22
Sept 25 UFC 119

October 16 UFC 120 (London)
Octover 23 UFC 121

Nov 13 UFC 122 (Germany)
Nov 20 UFC 123 (machida/Jackson)

I'm guessing the Germany and London cards will be free so it looks like they'll have a free card around a week before a PPV in many of the upcoming events

thats where the conflicting reports come in. According to koscheck he is going to be champ Dec 11th, but it will probably be ufc 124 now with the news today.

Dingo17 · 07-21-10, 11:15 PM

His evasive counterattacking strategy also resorted in him destroying rashad evans though...

GoldRush7 · 07-21-10, 11:20 PM

This is going to be a very interesting fight imo

lasker · 07-22-10, 02:00 AM

I expect this to be a one-sided beatdown. Machida is simply way too fast for Rampage and will make it look easy.

marcoloco · 07-22-10, 11:54 AM

my money will be on the dragon

vassman86 · 07-22-10, 02:01 PM

Tough fight for Rampage, who looked really sluggish and gunshy in his last fight against Evans. It'll be interesting to see how Machida bounces back from his loss to Shogun though.

jin2daj · 07-22-10, 02:32 PM

machida should win this

jin2daj · 07-22-10, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by lasker

It's not at all out of the question for Machida to finish Rampage by TKO.

very true. not an easy straddle at all in my opinion.

playa420 · 07-22-10, 02:38 PM

Might have to go with rampage depending on the odds.Machida will stand up with him, and rampage could esily land a big shot and get the ko. Plus Machidas coming off a KO loss for the first time in his career, which might **** with him mentally.

Vaughany · 07-22-10, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by Dingo17

His evasive counterattacking strategy also resorted in him destroying rashad evans though...

Rampage's chin is solid compared to Evans' tho...Rampage has never done the stanky leg! Dude has a square block for a head...obviously there is always a chance that he could get TKO'd or KO'd...I just like the chances that it wont happen.

Dingo17 · 07-22-10, 05:19 PM

Golden opportunity to post this gem

I gotcha, it's just too risky of a straddle for me. I could see you losing both pretty easy. I'm just going to go with Machida straight up when the time comes

GoGoGadget · 07-22-10, 06:23 PM

Great pic.

Kaladarus · 07-22-10, 06:49 PM

Rampage can get knocked out, he plays right into Machida's fighting style. If Rampage comes in with a solid game plan he's got a decent shot, but it's unlikely considering his training camp. I like Machida winning this fight, but I'm not willing to take him as too big a favorite.

doubleleg · 07-23-10, 12:07 AM

Curious to see the line on this. I expect Machida to come out as the favourite.

Retibol · 07-23-10, 08:59 AM

easy 1 for the dragon!

GoldRush7 · 07-23-10, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Rampage's chin is solid compared to Evans' tho...Rampage has never done the stanky leg! Dude has a square block for a head...obviously there is always a chance that he could get TKO'd or KO'd...I just like the chances that it wont happen.

I would have to agree with your assessment here. When is the last time Rampage has been KO'd, 2005 to Shogun?

Dingo17 · 07-23-10, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by GoldRush7

I would have to agree with your assessment here. When is the last time Rampage has been KO'd, 2005 to Shogun?

Yep, by soccer kicks. His only KO's that would have counted in the UFC were by knee shots by Wand. Obviously not machida's style. Sorry for disagreeing earlier Vaughany, the more I think about this straddle the more I like it

Vaughany · 07-23-10, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by Dingo17

Yep, by soccer kicks. His only KO's that would have counted in the UFC were by knee shots by Wand. Obviously not machida's style. Sorry for disagreeing earlier Vaughany, the more I think about this straddle the more I like it

ha no worries bro, I'd only do the straddle if ther was decent value in it... definitely not a sure thing. The only sure thing straddle is Dos Anjos to win and Guida to win by decision...cant wait to jump on tht went its out next week!

THE_LOCKSMITH · 07-23-10, 04:31 PM

I like Machida here, Doubt there will be a knockout, more likely one of Machidas early wins where he scores quick punches and kicks moves out quick for a UD

NOLA42 · 07-23-10, 09:53 PM

machida wont KO him

The HOFF · 07-26-10, 12:33 AM

BOOKMAKER

Quinton Jackson +165
Lyoto Machida -205

GoldRush7 · 07-26-10, 05:36 AM

What are the odds for Machida by decision/Rampage by KO?

Vaughany · 07-26-10, 06:21 AM

Originally posted by GoldRush7

What are the odds for Machida by decision/Rampage by KO?

Good question! Was about to ask the same thing???

RollPlayer · 07-26-10, 10:26 AM

Wow, I didn't think Machida would be that big of a favorite

The HOFF · 07-26-10, 01:20 PM

No props on KO or 3rd dec yet. Only the line for the fight

GoGoGadget · 07-26-10, 03:52 PM

I think Machida will be too quick.