Vaughany's MMA Picks...

**Vaughany** · 03-11-13, 05:00 PM

ha oh yeah, keep thinking it's a main event but not now is it. I dont mind that being a double anyway

**Sacrelicious** · 03-11-13, 05:03 PM

Oh ok, I was going to ask for the book where you got that bet, as the value there is excellent, presumably it was just a typo on your part.

That is unfortunate.

**Vaughany** · 03-11-13, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by Sacrelicious

Oh ok, I was going to ask for the book where you got that bet, as the value there is excellent, presumably it was just a typo on your part.

That is unfortunate.

it's a mistake by sportbet

**Vaughany** · 03-12-13, 12:59 PM

Study finds smiling fighters lose more often!>..

Study finds smiling fighters are losing fighters

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/study-finds-smiling-fighters-losing-fighters-155647271--mma.html

Before every fight, the fighters face off as part of the pre-fight weigh-ins. Usually, the two fighters raise their fists and scowl at each other as pictures are snapped. But sometimes, a fighter smiles at his or her opponent. A … Continue reading →

**Beelzebubzy** · 03-12-13, 01:07 PM

Odds out

**Hannibal** · 03-12-13, 08:00 PM

any stream for TUF tonight?

**Hannibal** · 03-12-13, 08:22 PM

wtf.. is TUF airing tonight?
every mma streaming site i usually use doesnt have it

**Grabaka** · 03-12-13, 08:29 PM

Its in 30 minutes

**Vaughany** · 03-13-13, 09:03 AM

‎"Jon, stop tweeting. Quit trying to be me. It makes you appear stupid, and just gives me material to ridicule you with...If Jon Jones, a potted cactus and a slice of pizza from my oven were all on ‘Jeopardy,' Jon Jones would not make the final round. Now, on a lighter note; Jon, you had another baby, and in seriousness, congratulations. At this rate, by this time next year you will be the ‘octamom of the octagon.'"

**Vaughany** · 03-13-13, 10:10 AM

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-01/fertittas-made-billionaires-by-head-blows-with-chokeholds.html

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http://www.vegasinc.com/news/2011/oct/29/fertittas-buy-online-gaming-company/

**Beelzebubzy** · 03-13-13, 12:28 PM

I'm not particularly high on either guy. Fletcher hasn't beaten anyone with a Wikipedia entry
-Luke Thomas

**Sacrelicious** · 03-13-13, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

I'm not particularly high on either guy. Fletcher hasn't beaten anyone with a Wikipedia entry
-Luke Thomas

**Vaughany** · 03-14-13, 04:06 AM

haha Bisping killed it at the end

Page Not Found | BJPenn.com

http://www.bjpenn.com/quick-twitt-bisping-goes-at-it-with-belfort-askren-ufc-news/

**pouyasophy** · 03-14-13, 07:28 AM

Who is this Camozzi can you're betting on Vaugany? Please explain...

And is Nick Ring the Rick Flair guy who keeps saying "woooooh!"?

**Vaughany** · 03-14-13, 07:43 AM

Originally posted by pouyasophy

Who is this Camozzi can you're betting on Vaugany? Please explain...

And is Nick Ring the Rick Flair guy who keeps saying "woooooh!"?

ha no the "Wooo" can is Chris Cope I believe! Ring is the bender with a lisp and sounds like wannasuckonit

**Vaughany** · 03-14-13, 06:29 PM

**Beelzebubzy** · 03-15-13, 02:13 PM

Who is your next fight against V?

I see you asking the media for Reinhardt, any chance you drop to Fly?

**Grabaka** · 03-15-13, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

Who is your next fight against V?

I see you asking the media for Reinhardt, any chance you drop to Fly?

Nope. His diet is toast with beans.

**Grabaka** · 03-15-13, 02:58 PM

Looks like Dana IS kinda mad at Helwanis. Another pwn! (around minute 45)

**Vaughany** · 03-15-13, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by Grabaka

Looks like Dana IS kinda mad at Helwanis. Another pwn! (around minute 45)

link dont work homie! Is it from the press conference or the media thing? Posted them on the 158 thread, some funny shiit

**Vaughany** · 03-15-13, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by Grabaka

Nope. His diet is toast with beans.

lol This ^^^ Joe Silva is not impressed

**Grabaka** · 03-15-13, 03:04 PM

No. Pre-fight media scrum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Etj2erzUr70

**Vaughany** · 03-15-13, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by Grabaka

No. Pre-fight media scrum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Etj2erzUr70

yeah thts what I meant about media thing. Was pretty awkward, all the other media guys just went silent for a couple mins!

**Vaughany** · 03-15-13, 03:35 PM

Interesting blog Camozzi just posted about sponsorship...

Won't Lower The Bar - Never Selling Out

Posted by Chris Camozzi on March 15, 2013 at 2:28pm
View Blog

I Won’t Lower The Bar“Never Selling Out But Always For Sale”

I do not know about the rest of the guys in the sport but my road to the UFC is full of broken bones and a lot of blood sweat and tears. As UFC 158 is upon us I am on the cusp of achieving my dream of fighting on one of the biggest cards of the year.

So that must mean a huge financial windfall right? I mean it is UFC 158, a GSP card, no one is a bigger draw than GSP. The sponsors must have lined up to be a part of this golden opportunity, right? Wrong. Not when so many other fighters and managers in the sport are selling the same opportunity for a fraction of what it is worth.

Don’t worry I am not going to call out anyone in particular for lowering the bar, it was lowered long before UFC 158. PPV walkout tees have gone from a big payday for fighters to essentially non-existent. The fighters do not seem to care about how little they make and it seems like managers don’t either when it comes to sponsorship. This used to be such a big part of the sport. Maybe it is because they did not work as hard as me to get here or maybe it is because they do not work as hard as me for the sponsors outside of the Octagon. Whatever the reason things have gone from bad to worse and I won't contribute. I won’t lower the bar.

Fighters and Managers want to talk about how unionizing the sport is what’s needed. Truth is they are just being lazy and want rules and third parties to set a baseline that they should be working to increase at every opportunity. What product has been commoditized faster than the UFC athlete sponsorship? Even just a couple years ago it was very possible to earn $10K for your walkout shirt alone being featured on the UFC main card yet in 2013 I turned down offers that were in the $3K range for my walkout shirt. You can’t lower the bar and expect better, you can’t be willing to accept less while demanding more.

How is a guy that is complaining about sponsors going to say he turned down money?

I am not complaining about sponsors, I have some great sponsors. I am saying that the fighters that are allowing the bar to be lowered are doing the sport a great disservice. The UFC is one of the biggest names in the Sports world, and you could not buy 30 seconds on your LOCAL cable network for the same price some of my peers are selling sponsorships for. You couldn’t afford to take any executive out to lunch in LA for what some of my peers are selling sponsorships for.

Everyone bitches about fighter pay, yet if it wasn’t for the pay from the promotion fighters would be broke. Yet the sponsors depend on us fans. The UFC built the popularity, built the platform and allows us to sell ourselves from the platform.

So for the rest of you guys and all of you who are on your way up, stop diminishing the value of reaching the top. We have a lot to be proud of, the UFC is a HUGE platform that exudes value. Just say no and watch the sponsors pay more. I did. I will take the first stand. I left money on the table, money I need. I did it for you, will you do it for me? Stop lowering the bar, these brands need to be in these events. They paid five to seven figures for PERMISSION to advertise on us, shouldn’t the ads be worth more? If permission is worth $15,000 per fighter than the actual ad is worth what?

Thank you to my sponsors Revgear, Triumph United, Muscle Pharm, Hatebreed, ToolKing.com, InstaLoans, MGR Construction, Alienware and Fulmer Helmets. Thank you to my gym Factory X Muay Thai and my management team at Ingrained Media. Also a big shout out to Frank Edge and Frank's Fight!
- Chris

**Beelzebubzy** · 03-15-13, 03:39 PM

I heard Fitch on a radio show doing something similar.

WHen he was injured, he was offered appearance fees of like 500 bucks. He said he wouldnt take that because if he did it would start a windfall and the market for a UFC fighter appearance would drop significantly.

**Grabaka** · 03-15-13, 03:50 PM

WTF is wrong with Elkins and his hair? Geez lewis

**Vaughany** · 03-15-13, 04:00 PM

Roop look like the Machinist. Protruding cheekbones

**Vaughany** · 03-15-13, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

I heard Fitch on a radio show doing something similar.

WHen he was injured, he was offered appearance fees of like 500 bucks. He said he wouldnt take that because if he did it would start a windfall and the market for a UFC fighter appearance would drop significantly.

ah right.

Always thought tho, how many people do you reckon actually watch a UFC and think "oh Chris Camozzi is wearing a "Bloodlust Chokemonkey" shirt...I'll go and buy that!? Like if you are the owner of tht company paying $10,000 are you going to make tht back from somebody like Camozzi wearing your shirt

**Beelzebubzy** · 03-15-13, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

ah right.

Always thought tho, how many people do you reckon actually watch a UFC and think "oh Chris Camozzi is wearing a "Bloodlust Chokemonkey" shirt...I'll go and buy that!? Like if you are the owner of tht company paying $10,000 are you going to make tht back from somebody like Camozzi wearing your shirt

I took a sponsorship once for clothing not even joking. I got 5 shirts and a pair of shoes if I ran a race with a local runs shop clothing.

For 10k, I would accept and piss blood at every mile

**NunyaBidness** · 03-15-13, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

I took a sponsorship once for clothing not even joking. I got 5 shirts and a pair of shoes if I ran a race with a local runs shop clothing.

For 10k, I would accept and piss blood at every mile

When I made my first final table at the WSOP, I wondered what the patch sponsorship offers were going to be, and thought about what price it would take me to say yes to.

But, then I got there and no one offered me anything, and I felt like a silly boy.

**Sacrelicious** · 03-16-13, 12:19 AM

I once went to a breakfast joint while I was drunk and told them I'd wear a waffle coustume and go dance outside thier restaurant to attract customers if they payed me a huge sum of money.

They told me to get out of the restaurant.

True story.

**Beelzebubzy** · 03-16-13, 05:50 AM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

When I made my first final table at the WSOP, I wondered what the patch sponsorship offers were going to be, and thought about what price it would take me to say yes to.

But, then I got there and no one offered me anything, and I felt like a silly boy.

damn you are the cooler pro between us
did you call any of the online sites? I called ING and they flat out told me no. Felt like a failure

**NunyaBidness** · 03-16-13, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

damn you are the cooler pro between us
did you call any of the online sites? I called ING and they flat out told me no. Felt like a failure

No, in fact I was 10 minutes late for the final table, which might have been my downfall. They were probably waiting around to throw buckets of money at me, but then they realized I was too cool to even show up.

**Vaughany** · 03-16-13, 12:06 PM

Pending plays muthafuckkas!...

168980851-1	3/16/13 12:14pm	$10.00	$95.00	Pending	3/16/13 6:30pm Props Fighting 12047 Reuben Duran wins SUB of the Night +950* vs Not SUB of the Night Winner/no winner

168980067-1	3/16/13 12:09pm	$175.00	$100.00	Pending	3/16/13 8:30pm Props Fighting 1703 Miller/Mein goes 3 round distance -175* vs Fight won't go 3 round distance



168166524-1	3/12/13 11:21am	$100.00	$166.00	Pending	3/16/13 10:30pm Props Fighting 1307 Ring wins by 3 round decision +166* vs Not Ring by 3 round decision

168065922-1	3/11/13 5:56pm	$100.00	$219.22	Pending	3 Team Parlay
				Pending	4/20/13 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1202 Nate Diaz -160* vs Josh Thomson
				Pending	3/16/13 10:00pm Props Fighting 1203 Marquardt/Ellenberger goes 3 rnd dist -195* vs Fight won't go 3 round distance
				Pending	4/20/13 10:30pm Props Fighting 1104 Fight won't go 5 round distance -335* vs Mir/Cormier goes 5 round distance

168050132-1	3/11/13 2:56pm	$250.00	$300.00	Pending	3/16/13 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1302 Chris Camozzi +120* vs Nick Ring



164158142-1	2/18/13 3:54pm	$100.00	$98.97	Pending	3 Team Parlay
				Win	3/2/13 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1202 Diego Sanchez -320* vs Takanori Gomi
				Pending	3/16/13 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1002 Georges St-Pierre -470* vs Nick Diaz
				Win	2/23/13 11:00pm Props Fighting 1039 Rousey wins by submission -400* vs Any other result

158970640-1	1/19/13 8:28pm	$100.00	$183.04	Pending	3 Team Parlay
				Win	1/19/13 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1201 Gabriel Gonzaga -120* vs Ben Rothwell
				Win	2/23/13 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1201 Urijah Faber -380* vs Ivan Menjivar
				Pending	3/16/13 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1002 Georges St-Pierre -450* vs Nick Diaz

158920284-1	1/19/13 5:58pm	$100.00	$117.40	Pending	3 Team Parlay
				Win	2/23/13 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1201 Urijah Faber -380* vs Ivan Menjivar
				Pending	3/16/13 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1002 Georges St-Pierre -450* vs Nick Diaz
				Win	1/19/13 7:30pm Props Fighting 1603 Lentz/Nunes goes 3 round distance -245* vs Fight won't go 3 round distance

158711940-1	1/18/13 3:25pm	$100.00	$57.14	Pending	2 Team Parlay
				Pending	3/16/13 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1002 Georges St-Pierre -450* vs Nick Diaz
				Pending	4/20/13 10:30pm UFC Fighting 1102 Daniel Cormier -350* vs Frank Mir

157762712-1	1/12/13 5:38pm	$5.00	$1,152.65	Pending	12 Team Parlay
				Win	1/13/13 9:00am Italy Soccer 114 Lazio (ITA-A) -163* vs Atalanta (ITA-A)
				Win	1/13/13 1:00pm Portugal Soccer 1210 Sporting Lisboa (POR) +105* vs Olhanense (POR)
				Win	1/13/13 3:00pm Spain Soccer 60 Barcelona (ESP-P) -1 -139 vs Malaga (ESP-P)
				Pending	3/16/13 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1002 Georges St-Pierre -450* vs Nick Diaz
				Cancelled	3/16/13 10:30pm UFC Fighting 1101 Carlos Condit +160* vs Rory MacDonald
				Win	1/12/13 11:30pm Strikeforce Fighting 2101 Daniel Cormier/Dion Staring Over 1½ +175*
				Win	1/12/13 9:30pm Strikeforce Fighting 2501 Pat Healy -525* vs Kurt Holobaugh
				Win	1/12/13 8:30pm Strikeforce Fighting 2701 Tim Kennedy -475* vs Trevor Smith
				Win	1/12/13 7:00pm Strikeforce Fighting 2951 Estevan Payan -135* vs Mike Bravo
				Win	1/12/13 11:59pm Props Fighting 2057 Marquardt/Saffiedine starts round 2 -375* vs Fight won't start round 2
				Win	1/26/13 11:00pm Props Fighting 1003 Johnson/Dodson goes 5 round distance -260* vs Fight won't go 5 round distance
				Win	2/23/13 11:00pm Props Fighting 1004 Fight won't go 5 round distance -1700* vs Carmouche/Rousey goes 5 round distance

**Beelzebubzy** · 03-16-13, 02:03 PM

Damn you got GSP at +2000 in that one parlay