Ufc 119

Vaughany · 08-18-10, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by KCJMAC

You may be okay, Vaughany. Mir opened at -280 and is already down to -210.

Ah right, good news! Might be able to get him at -200 thn eventually.

Kaladarus · 08-18-10, 05:55 PM

Surprised Cropcop is getting one way action right now, especially with that line.

Vaughany · 08-19-10, 08:20 AM

WOW Mir down to -130 and Cro-Cop at Evens!

Educ8d Degener8 · 08-19-10, 11:00 AM

Good lord I'm ready to pounce on this Mir line... I'm seeing value similar to the way I saw it in his line with Kongo...

Anyone wanna talk me out of this one?

brooks85 · 08-19-10, 11:03 AM

well it wont be me because I am going to bet an unnecessarily large amount on him, especially if it dare crosses into +money

Vaughany · 08-19-10, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by educ8d degener8

good lord i'm ready to pounce on this mir line... I'm seeing value similar to the way i saw it in his line with kongo...

Anyone wanna talk me out of this one?

nope! Doooooooooooooo it!

Vaughany · 08-19-10, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

nope! Doooooooooooooo it!

On second thoughts DONT! Its gone back up to -180...I want people to keep picking Cro Cop so tht Mir's line improves even more so I strongly suggest u go with Cro-Cop!!

brooks85 · 08-19-10, 01:48 PM

**** i jinxed it

Pabinator · 08-19-10, 02:56 PM

Wait who's fighting who?

squallsquall · 08-19-10, 03:14 PM

Will be interesting to see where the line stabilizes... waiting for Pinnacle to release odds.

Kaladarus · 08-19-10, 05:37 PM

119 is going to be great for bets. I hope that Mir/CC lines moves a lot.

Vaughany · 08-25-10, 09:20 AM

Who's with me and sees great value in Doerksen to beat Dolloway at +220 or better (goes up to +275 on some sites!)??? Doerksen is going to have great momentum coming off an awesome comeback win against Lawlor (who made Dolloway tap with a guillotine) and then a first round KO against Marchand. Dolloway's weakness has always been his sub defense which means everytime he gets Doerksen down (if he can get him down) he'll still be in danger as BJJ is Doerksen's bread and butter! Anybody who has a greater knowledge than me on the intricacies of BJJ a la Frank Mir care to give their thoughts on this match up - Chairib???!

brooks85 · 08-25-10, 09:24 AM

shhh

im definitely liking doerksen in this one. With you!! I think the line has peaked, its been sitting steady.

Vaughany · 08-25-10, 09:32 AM

Originally posted by brooks85

shhh

im definitely liking doerksen in this one. With you!! I think the line has peaked, its been sitting steady.

Yee going to put at least a unit or 2 on El Dirte at +250 at soon as I get units back from Bellator/118.

KCJMAC · 08-25-10, 09:41 AM

I'm taking the +275 as well. Not that impressed with Dolloway, so I think Doerksen wins more than 27% of the time.

Vaughany · 08-25-10, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by KCJMAC

I'm taking the +275 as well. Not that impressed with Dolloway, so I think Doerksen wins more than 27% of the time.

Yee I have it more like 50/50 so +250 range is good for me!

Vaughany · 08-30-10, 11:12 AM

Will be doing a write-up at end of week on Bader vs Lil Nog, just need to re-watch the Bader vs Schafer and Bader vs Elliot Marshall fights (Two BJJ black-belts) first and see how well Bader dealt with their guards and if he was ever in any trouble at all. Would of been better if his fight with Vinny Magalhaes had gone to the ground as that would of given a clear indication of how good Bader's sub defence is, but unfortunately Bader knocked him out within 2 minutes!

THE_LOCKSMITH · 09-01-10, 07:22 PM

Doerksen last win busted a couple of my parlays but can't see myself betting on him this time

KCJMAC · 09-01-10, 09:00 PM

Dolloway has had some problems with submission defense in the past (both of his professional losses are by sub, as well as once on TUF season 7.)

That's one of the main reasons I like Doerksen (33 wins by sub, 8th all time on Sherdog stats.)

clarkd32 · 09-01-10, 10:06 PM

good info on doerkson. will have to put a small play in on him at those odds.

The HOFF · 09-01-10, 10:51 PM

I'm loving Mir and Doerksen. Looks like a lot of us are on the same side.

vassman86 · 09-02-10, 05:35 AM

Man, this headliner just keeps changing.

THE_LOCKSMITH · 09-16-10, 02:23 PM

Bader and big Nog looked tight on there season of TUF, now Bader has to fight little Nog. Wonder how that will go over

Vaughany · 09-17-10, 12:50 PM

Footage of Cro-Cop's last sparring session with Mladen Brestovac (who also lost to Kongo a few years back by decision in a kickboxing fight) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7FcpQfTSyE

Some of the conference call...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixk3KqFrsj8

LearningTree · 09-17-10, 11:33 PM

I'm not seeing the Mir love at all...Carwin destroyed him...he still hasn't proven he has any heart whatsoever and he's somehow managed to convince people that he's a much better fighter than he is...

Vaughany · 09-18-10, 04:25 AM

Originally posted by LearningTree

I'm not seeing the Mir love at all...Carwin destroyed him...he still hasn't proven he has any heart whatsoever and he's somehow managed to convince people that he's a much better fighter than he is...

Hmm not sure...I'd say coming back from being in a serious motorbike incident were he was told he'd never fight again shows a bit of heart!!

The HOFF · 09-18-10, 04:51 AM

Originally posted by LearningTree

I'm not seeing the Mir love at all...Carwin destroyed him...he still hasn't proven he has any heart whatsoever and he's somehow managed to convince people that he's a much better fighter than he is...

I'm not so sure it's love for Mir, more than it is just a fade of CroCop. He was horrendous in the fight against Barry. If Barry didn't break his hand and foot, or do all that gay hugging and shit during the match, CroCop would have been finished easily.

lasker · 09-18-10, 11:48 PM

Barry is no ordinary striker...

Pratik · 09-19-10, 01:06 AM

Originally posted by LearningTree

I'm not seeing the Mir love at all...Carwin destroyed him...he still hasn't proven he has any heart whatsoever and he's somehow managed to convince people that he's a much better fighter than he is...

I think you should see the love for this fight. I dont think Crocop has the heart anymore to fight. He even said himself every fight could be his last. I just hope that he doesnt start thinking about fishing on a lake like he did in the Dos Santos fight lol. plus i put some on crocop before he said all this and his supposed injury

Kaladarus · 09-19-10, 01:14 AM

Mir and CC both suck and neither of them deserve a main event spot on a PPV. CC is payed significantly more than Mir though. Hopefully CC takes a huge beating and stops fighting, he's becoming pathetic. A guy that just fights for a paycheck and doesn't even have proper training doesn't deserve the attention he gets. He was weighing in at like 220 and instead of cutting a small amount of weight he gained like 10 pounds to be in a weight class he has no reason being in.

THE_LOCKSMITH · 09-21-10, 01:59 PM

mirko filipovic +215
frank mir -275

antonio rogerio nogueira +150
ryan bader -180

matt serra +120
chris lytle -150

sean sherk +190
evan dunham -240

jeremy stephens +130
melvin guillard -160

joe doerksen +265
cb dollaway -325

joey beltran +125
matt mitrione -155

pat audinwood +240
thiago tavares -300

waylon lowe -115
steve lopez -115

julio paulino +140
tj grant -170

sean mccorkle +180
mark hunt -220

ufcmma36 · 09-21-10, 02:15 PM

mccorkle has some nice value

SweatySombrero · 09-21-10, 02:18 PM

i cant wait!!

THE_LOCKSMITH · 09-21-10, 02:29 PM

Dunham has looked great in his fights but +190 on Sherk is very tempting. the guy is a former champ with losses to Penn and Edgar at LW.

Shane · 09-21-10, 02:40 PM

I always get burned playing a BJJ against a wrestler, but at those odds I may take a shot on Little Nog.