Bellator Fighting Championships

The HOFF · 04-03-10, 03:08 AM

The HOFF · 04-03-10, 03:10 AM

The HOFF · 04-03-10, 03:13 AM

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The HOFF · 04-03-10, 03:18 AM

BELLATOR FIGHTING CHAMPIONSHIPS 13

Date: Apr 08, 2010
Location: Hollywood, Fla.
Venue: Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
Broadcast: FOX Sports Net

Roger Huerta vs. Chad Hinton (lightweight tourney first round)
Janne Tulirinta vs. Carey Vanier (lightweight tourney first round)
Eric Marriott vs. Joe Warren (featherweight tourney first round)
Georgi Karakhanyan vs. Bao Quach (featherweight tourney first round)

The HOFF · 04-03-10, 03:28 AM

I am very excited to watch the second season of Bellator. I don't mind the tournament style but there is just some things that confuse me. Why do they only use the tournament style? I'd like to see just regular matches between guys already out of a tournament. Their champions haven't fought for the organization since last year. The champions can take part in a "super fight" against someone not from the tournament, fight in different organizations, or just wait until the tournament determines the next challenger. It just seems like they are wasting the time of their champions.

Vaughany · 04-03-10, 06:46 AM

Well Alvarez will be fighting Josh Neer next month, Joe Soto vs Diego Saraiva and Lombard will be fighting Paulo Filho! This tournament should be awesome tho... I like Mike Ricci as best in lightweight followed by Huerta. Hornbuckle, Wallhead and Askren at welterweight.

terpkeg · 04-03-10, 09:21 AM

Anyone attend any of the season one fights? If so, how was the atmosphere? How was the pricing? I would like to go to one of the Mohegan Sun events.

The Thursday date may be better for TV, but makes it more inconvenient since the Wife and I will have to take off work Friday. So, needs to be worth the trip.

illmatick · 04-05-10, 04:10 AM

thanks for the videos hoff, that was first real introduction to Bellator, Do you guys think we will see lines for the start of the tournament ?? i tried asking 5 dimes but couldn't get a definitive answer

Vaughany · 04-05-10, 09:37 AM

Yee hoping to get decent odds for Ricci to win

The HOFF · 04-05-10, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by illmatick

thanks for the videos hoff, that was first real introduction to Bellator, Do you guys think we will see lines for the start of the tournament ?? i tried asking 5 dimes but couldn't get a definitive answer

I know there were lines for some of the Bellator fights last year. I can't remember if it was for all of them or only the end of the tournament championship fights.

sundin4prez · 04-05-10, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by terpkeg

Anyone attend any of the season one fights? If so, how was the atmosphere? How was the pricing? I would like to go to one of the Mohegan Sun events.

The Thursday date may be better for TV, but makes it more inconvenient since the Wife and I will have to take off work Friday. So, needs to be worth the trip.

i have gone to 2 mma events so far bellator and strikeforce fedor vs rogers.... both where about the same price and production qualities at the arena were simaler but thats where the comparisons stop.... the strikeforce show trumped the bellator on in every area, fights,general atmosphere and extras like the weigh ins, after show press conferences etc.. honestly i would just wait untill a ufc or strikeforce show comes to your town, bellator was good but it just lacks that certain "umph" to get me to watch it live.... either you should expect a good show but one is clearly better then the other...

brooks85 · 04-05-10, 01:57 PM

ya we will get BFC lines, atleast we should, i bet on every event except one that did not have lines last season. The lines usually would come out late, hardly ever days before the event.

I made a thread for each of the BFC events i bet on and did pretty good. It was too easy until this happened..

but i got my money back when alvarez beat him down

BFC argument for the tournament style is that "it takes the politics out of matchmaking..."

I remember reading that from a interview with the owners last season

sundin4prez · 04-05-10, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by brooks85

BFC argument for the tournament style is that "it takes the politics out of matchmaking..."

I remember reading that from a interview with the owners last season

and it sets them apart for there competition

doubleleg · 04-05-10, 04:38 PM

looking forward to season 2

illmatick · 04-06-10, 08:15 PM

lines are out !!!

brooks85 · 04-06-10, 11:02 PM

BFC is running these "preview" shows on their weight classes on Fox sports network right now
Right now WW, next is FW

36mafia · 04-07-10, 02:57 AM

odds out at bm

The HOFF · 04-07-10, 05:58 AM

Educ8d Degener8 · 04-07-10, 11:20 AM

Odds up at 5dimes as well...

So any value in these lines??? Can't say I'm very familiar with any of the fighters (from watching) in today's event outside of Huerta and Warren.

Huerta's opponent looks like a beast, but has beaten some pretty weak opponents; meanwhile, Roger's hung with some of the best in the world -- hence the big line on that one.

Kinda interested in the Joe Warren line -- anyone know Marriot's strengths / weaknesses?

And Georgi K has a nice record and quite a bit of hype, but Quach is no slouch from what I've read.

What's the word on Vanier vs Tulirinta?

Vaughany · 04-07-10, 01:07 PM

Joe Warren - Olympic Wrestler no? Lay and prey win for sure!

The HOFF · 04-07-10, 03:17 PM

**** issues have forced Janne Tulirinta (12-3 MMA, 0-0 BFC) out of Bellator Fighting Championships' season-two lightweight tourney and a fight with Carey Vanier (7-2 MMA, 0-0 BFC) at tomorrow's Bellator 13 event, Bellator officials today announced.

Promotional newcomer Joe Duarte (5-1 MMA, 0-0 BFC), a former U.S. Army Ranger, replaces Tulirinta in the eight-man tourney field.

Duarte vs. Vanier is one of four bouts scheduled to air live on FOX Sports Net (or via delay if preempted by local programming).

brooks85 · 04-07-10, 04:08 PM

thats shitty

i know im using marriot too boost my parlays. He definitely is not on bibiano's level but he does have a good sub game. And compared to warren, its probably light years ahead. Warren will get the td but im counting on marriot to get the sub.

karak is going to pick quach apart and i think he is very parlay worthy on a small play.

The HOFF · 04-08-10, 01:42 PM

Main Card:
-Roger Huerta (155.25) vs. Chad Hinton (155.25)
-Joe Warren (144.5) vs. Eric Marriott (144.75)
-Bao Quach (145.25) vs. Georgi Karakhanyan (145)
-Carey Vanier (154.5) vs. Joe Duarte (156)

Local Feature Fight Card:
-Ralph Acosta (139.75) vs. Chris Manuel (135.5)
-Moyses Gabin (184) vs. Mikey Gomez (187)*
-John Kelly (170.25) vs. Edson Diniz (172.25)
-Vagner Rocha (168.5) vs. Francisco Soares (171.25)

The HOFF · 04-08-10, 01:43 PM

terpkeg · 04-08-10, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Joe Warren - Olympic Wrestler no? Lay and prey win for sure!

Greco ROman wrestler, i believe. Correct me if I am wrong, as I havnt had a chance to re-watch fights, but I think Warren used more of a smother against corner (ring in dream) and clinch work boxing approach. Like a 145 Randy Couture.

NickBaragona · 04-08-10, 02:10 PM

What do you guys think of a small parlay of Huerta, Warren, and karak?

The HOFF · 04-08-10, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by NickBaragona

What do you guys think of a small parlay of Huerta, Warren, and karak?

Small is the key word. I'm only really sure about Warren. Huerta has only fought once in like the last 2 years. This is the perfect spot for an under-rated no name fighter to pull a huge upset. I've never seen Karakahyan fight before so I can't make an educated guess on that one.

Vaughany · 04-08-10, 04:10 PM

Yee they are massively overhyping Huerta! Shud be -300 at most!

brooks85 · 04-08-10, 05:47 PM

huerta had a year lay off and took maynard to a split decision. Though the line is over priced, i wouldnt be too worried about him losing. Especially after his recent training trip to thailand, i doubt hinton is going to be ready for the pace huerta is going to bring. The guy has only been training mma for 2 years.

I would say the weakest link tonight without a doubt is joe warren. He can barely be called an mma fighter at this point. He is basically a smaller verison paul kelly and all the other one-dimensional fighters out there. That also means warren has plenty of room for improvement and he could show that tonight. But, from what i have seen, his GnP is sloppy and he is clueless to bjj defense. There is no doubt he will get marriott on his back, and i hope he does, warren is most vunerable on the ground at this point. And his standup is MIA.

ghost kid · 04-08-10, 06:32 PM

Are we talking about the Joe Warren that fought Yamamoto in Dream?
Dude you need to rewatch his fights - "he can barely be called an MMA fighter at this point"
This to me is a CRAZY statement - I think Warren is the best bet on this card

brooks85 · 04-08-10, 06:37 PM

yes i did watch the kid/warren fight, i bet on in fact. And like most im still confused how warren won. Usually wrestling will not get you a win in dream. Kid is not known for his sub game, and he no problem controlling warren in guard.

NickBaragona · 04-08-10, 06:39 PM

Well, I took all 3 favorites for a $15 parlay, and Huerta and Warren for a $45 parlay. Also included Huerta with some parlays for UFC 112. Wish me luck!

ghost kid · 04-08-10, 07:10 PM

good luck with your play
I just don't see this kid Marriott as anywhere near the level of Yamamoto or Bibiano