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  • Vaughany
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 03-07-10
    • 45563

    #1
    Ufc 111 picks...
    This card is going to be EPIC! At the moment Im only putting money on Miller and Pellegrino. Mir is my idol and Hardy is a legend so cant bring myself to bet against them! Also a massive Matt Brown fan and cant decide on tht one. Leaning towards Thiago Alves to TKO Fitch after seeing Pierce almost knock Fitch out in his last fight but dont think ther is value in betting on Alves. Ellenberger vs Saunders is also a toss up so will be staying clear of tht. Im considering putting small plays on Nate Diaz, Rodney Wallace and Soto (underdog) to beat Riddle....any one else betting on these?
  • illmatick
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-05-09
    • 5456

    #2
    I would love to know how much action Saunders is taking in this fight, a bit surprised to see Ellenberger +140 at pinnacle

    I guess Saunders is just that much more popular being on tuf and coming of a Highlight reel finish over Marcus Davis
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    • clarkd32
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 09-15-06
      • 863

      #3
      diaz going up in weight... not sure how well he will do. i think this is one of the prelim fights that are free on spike.
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      • cky312
        SBR High Roller
        • 12-22-09
        • 197

        #4
        I like watching Saunders fight, since he has the most brutal knee ****s in MMA, but I've yet to see anything else from him. I think Ellenberger will drag him down and just pound him out for a TKO. No way he's gonna stand with him when Saunders is so much bigger.
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        • Preston09
          SBR MVP
          • 05-19-09
          • 1834

          #5
          Hardy a legend? I don't see how he is going to win.
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          • Vaughany
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 03-07-10
            • 45563

            #6
            Via flying miracle!
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            • sundin4prez
              SBR MVP
              • 03-09-10
              • 1970

              #7
              i have money on pelligrino,miller,gsp in a parlay,Ricardo Almeida and tons of money on mir...
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              • Vaughany
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 03-07-10
                • 45563

                #8
                Mir is risky...my idol but definately more value in betting on Carwin. Anyone think Wallace will dominate Hamman and Soto cud get the upset against Riddle?
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                • GoldRush7
                  SBR MVP
                  • 04-27-09
                  • 2014

                  #9
                  Originally posted by sundin4prez
                  i have money on pelligrino,miller,gsp in a parlay,Ricardo Almeida and tons of money on mir...
                  Tons on Mir? Do tell why...
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                  • cky312
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 12-22-09
                    • 197

                    #10
                    Anyone else hammering the Pelligrino line? I haven't seen tape of Camoes but judging from a draw (would've won) with Uno and his mostly submission based wins and susceptible gas tank I don't see Batman getting out rolled on the ground.

                    Originally posted by GoldRush7
                    Tons on Mir? Do tell why...
                    If you can find tape on the Carwin Gonzaga fight, though it was short, Gabe dominated every aspect of that fight until Carwin landed that flat footed right cross as he stood back up. Carwin to me is just a very big and strong guy with an excellent puncher's chance, which does bold very well in a division like HW sinc most guys lack the speed or technique to move out of the way. Though I'm a huge Carwin fan, I think his value is grossly inflated. Mir shouldn't have too much trouble dictating the fight, barring a clean strike standing by Carwin or a stupid double knee like Mir did against Brock in the second fight, Carwin shouldn't be able to get on top of or finish Mir. I'm guessing a round 1 sub for Mir. Or else it'll be another "lucky" TKO by Carwin, if you can call it that.
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                    • Educ8d Degener8
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-12-10
                      • 3177

                      #11
                      Originally posted by cky312
                      Anyone else hammering the Pelligrino line? I haven't seen tape of Camoes but judging from a draw (would've won) with Uno and his mostly submission based wins and susceptible gas tank I don't see Batman getting out rolled on the ground. If you can find tape on the Carwin Gonzaga fight, though it was short, Gabe dominated every aspect of that fight until Carwin landed that flat footed right cross as he stood back up. Carwin to me is just a very big and strong guy with an excellent puncher's chance, which does bold very well in a division like HW sinc most guys lack the speed or technique to move out of the way. Though I'm a huge Carwin fan, I think his value is grossly inflated. Mir shouldn't have too much trouble dictating the fight, barring a clean strike standing by Carwin or a stupid double knee like Mir did against Brock in the second fight, Carwin shouldn't be able to get on top of or finish Mir. I'm guessing a round 1 sub for Mir. Or else it'll be another "lucky" TKO by Carwin, if you can call it that.
                      I'm liking Mir as well for those reasons.

                      RE: Pellegrino, I'm liking that line too. I do need to find tape on Camoes though first, but from a glance at records and opponent pedigree, my initial feel is that there is value in the Pellegrino line; as well as the Palhares line.
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                      • GoldRush7
                        SBR MVP
                        • 04-27-09
                        • 2014

                        #12
                        I do not think any of the reasons you listed warrants putting "tons" of money on a fighter that is going against a guy that is 11-0 with all fights ending in the first round. Even so, I like Carwin for basically the same reasons you explain... he's big, strong, and has an excellent punchers chance... sounds very similar to Brock Lesnar to me... I can see where you are coming from, but I just don't see how it warrants a "ton" of money which is why I was questioning the guy that said that....
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                        • Vaughany
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 03-07-10
                          • 45563

                          #13
                          Pellegrino at 8/13 on PaddyPower.com is good value. Have put 25 on him and Miller to win 26. Easy money I think. Also put a parlay (£5) on Miller, Nelson, Florian, Tibau and Quarry and £10 on Diaz, Miller and Wallace. If Jim Miller loses im fuc*ed!!!
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                          • keyboarding
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 07-30-09
                            • 6817

                            #14
                            Originally posted by GoldRush7
                            I do not think any of the reasons you listed warrants putting "tons" of money on a fighter that is going against a guy that is 11-0 with all fights ending in the first round. Even so, I like Carwin for basically the same reasons you explain... he's big, strong, and has an excellent punchers chance... sounds very similar to Brock Lesnar to me... I can see where you are coming from, but I just don't see how it warrants a "ton" of money which is why I was questioning the guy that said that....
                            Lesnar is a skilled wrestler. Carwin isn't. You shouldn't compare them.
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                            • Eccocide
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-12-09
                              • 2126

                              #15
                              Originally posted by keyboarding
                              Lesnar is a skilled wrestler. Carwin isn't. You shouldn't compare them.
                              Carwin isnt a skilled wrestler? Division II National Champion, 2 time runner up.....
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                              • GoldRush7
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-27-09
                                • 2014

                                #16
                                Carwin was a division II champion... are you telling me that doesn't take skill?
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                                • GoldRush7
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 04-27-09
                                  • 2014

                                  #17
                                  sorry Ecco must have posted right after you
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                                  • illmatick
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 01-05-09
                                    • 5456

                                    #18
                                    how is Carwin not skilled?? the way he exploded up from being mounted by Gonzaga shows he's at least skilled enough

                                    not an elite wrestler like Lesnar but still....
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                                    • illmatick
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-05-09
                                      • 5456

                                      #19
                                      lol, we couldn't wait to respond
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                                      • GoldRush7
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 04-27-09
                                        • 2014

                                        #20
                                        yeah we all pounced on that one quick haha
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                                        • Vaughany
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 03-07-10
                                          • 45563

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by keyboarding
                                          Lesnar is a skilled wrestler. Carwin isn't. You shouldn't compare them.
                                          hahahahaha hilarious!
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                                          • Kaladarus
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-11-09
                                            • 1876

                                            #22
                                            Take Mir anyways, he should win this.
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                                            • keyboarding
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 07-30-09
                                              • 6817

                                              #23
                                              I was referring to Lesnar being compared to Carwin as "an excellent punchers chance".
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                                              • GoldRush7
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 04-27-09
                                                • 2014

                                                #24
                                                you still make no sense
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                                                • JuicedUp
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-20-10
                                                  • 3396

                                                  #25
                                                  Almeida, miller, and Mir for me.
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                                                  • terpkeg
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 10-26-09
                                                    • 2364

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                    Mir is risky...my idol but definately more value in betting on Carwin. Anyone think Wallace will dominate Hamman and Soto cud get the upset against Riddle?
                                                    Why do you like Wallace so much?
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                                                    • Vaughany
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 03-07-10
                                                      • 45563

                                                      #27
                                                      Think he is more explosive - stronger and more powerful and better wrestler so should grind out a decision win as he nearly did against Stann who I reckon is better then Hamman. Only put him in a parlay with Diaz and Miller in the end. Got 25 on Miller and Pellegrino and need Miller to win for my other parlay tht had Kongo and Pierce in.
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                                                      • Vrakas
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 02-27-10
                                                        • 627

                                                        #28
                                                        Gonzaga dominated Carwin for the first part of the fight then got KO by one punch. Mir has a much better chin and if Carwin decides to strike he will get beat up just like he did vs Gonzaga. For the 10seconds Mir was standing up with Lesnar he almost knocked him out. Mir is better all around the only thing Carwin has is his strength and KO power. If Carwin doesn't take Mir down the whole fight this will probably be an early night for him and also we don't know much about Carwin's submission defense if it goes to the ground.
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                                                        • RussianMike
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 03-20-10
                                                          • 292

                                                          #29
                                                          Epic card ???? Really. What happened to the UFC. 2-3 ppv events a month. draining talent. This card has good fighters but is in no way epic. actually kinda weak. Carwin line has value in it, even though Mir keeps surprising me with pure heart.
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                                                          • Vaughany
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 03-07-10
                                                            • 45563

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by RussianMike
                                                            Epic card ???? Really. What happened to the UFC. 2-3 ppv events a month. draining talent. This card has good fighters but is in no way epic. actually kinda weak. Carwin line has value in it, even though Mir keeps surprising me with pure heart.
                                                            A card with GSP, Dan Hardy, Frank Mir, Carwin, Matt Brown, Ben Saunders? Six of the most exciting fighters to watch in the UFC right there!
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                                                            • Educ8d Degener8
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-12-10
                                                              • 3177

                                                              #31
                                                              I think the card is solid as hell as Vaughany mentioned...

                                                              I'm even amped for the Spike undercard - especially Almeida vs Brown, and hoping that the Palhares vs Drwal fight makes the telecast.
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                                                              • Vaughany
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 03-07-10
                                                                • 45563

                                                                #32
                                                                5/6 with the picks tonight...Wallace let me down....£135 winnings nonetheless...takes me to 13 out of 15 since I started my blog... http://vaughanymma.blogspot.com/
                                                                Gutted for Frank Mir and Hardy....both were nether in doubt tho really.
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                                                                • JuicedUp
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 01-20-10
                                                                  • 3396

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                  5/6 with the picks tonight...Wallace let me down....£135 winnings nonetheless...takes me to 13 out of 15 since I started my blog... http://vaughanymma.blogspot.com/
                                                                  Gutted for Frank Mir and Hardy....both were nether in doubt tho really.
                                                                  13 out of 15... Damn!!! I'll be checking out the blog bro.
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                                                                  • Vaughany
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 03-07-10
                                                                    • 45563

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by JuicedUp
                                                                    13 out of 15... Damn!!! I'll be checking out the blog bro.
                                                                    Darabedyan at last WEC event and Wallace tonight are the only two I got wrong.
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                                                                    • Vaughany
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 03-07-10
                                                                      • 45563

                                                                      #35
                                                                      19/22 now after getting 6/7 at Fight Night 21! Quarry let me down on gettin a clean sweep!
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