UFC 105 Rumors/Discussion

The HOFF · 09-14-09, 12:57 PM

Couture vs Vera probably means that Nogueira vs Cane is at 106.

illmatick · 09-14-09, 02:45 PM

Is this the main event? by far the worse main event in the UFC's recent history

Eccocide · 09-14-09, 05:18 PM

Meh, its definitely not a top rated main event, but I think its better than Bisping/Evans and Bisping/Leben. I actually like the matchup and I think its about all they could do to get some drawing power on this card with Rashad backing out to fight Randy and BJ/Diego being moved to UFC 107 cuz of Rampage going Hollywood. Plus this is a UK card - they usually lack in top tier showdowns but the fights always deliver. And its Free

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The HOFF · 09-25-09, 06:38 PM

Brandon Vera -105
Randy Couture -125

RobbReport · 09-25-09, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by The HOFF

Brandon Vera -105
Randy Couture -125

get the **** outta here......i wish.

Eccocide · 09-25-09, 06:57 PM

True story. I had to do a double-take!

The HOFF · 09-25-09, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by The HOFF

Brandon Vera -105
Randy Couture -125

What do you guys think it should be?

RobbReport · 09-25-09, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by The HOFF

What do you guys think it should be?

vera favored, i think the lines will change a lot, like the dos santos line.

The HOFF · 09-28-09, 02:02 PM

Dan Hardy (22-6 MMA, 3-0 UFC) says he will, in fact, meet fellow UFC welterweight contender Mike Swick (14-2 MMA, 9-1 UFC) in November at UFC 105.

In a post on his official Web site, Hardy confirmed an injury forces his original opponent, Dong Hyun Kim, off the Nov. 14 card.

brooks85 · 09-28-09, 03:00 PM

Thats too bad kim is out, that line was going to get some big money, now we have to pay for swick. Going to be a great fight.

brooks85 · 09-29-09, 11:01 AM

In the year 2010.... In the year 2010

Swick better win this fight because I personally do not think Hardy,6' 74'', has much of a chance against GSP. GSPs ufc career has only pitted him against one opponent who had a reach advantage over him, Mayhem miller many moons ago when GSP was younger and only had 74'' reach.

Swick-6'1 77'', will be the most dangerous striker GSP-5'10 76'', has ever faced. Penn and Alves are great strikers but at this point in GSP career and with his skill level, going up against a 7'' reach advantage is too overwhelming.

There is no doubt what GSPs gameplan would be be against swick/hardy, which is good for either because they would have 5 rounds to do what serra did, hit him in the back of the head

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GSP UFC career opponents

------Height Reach
Alves 5'9 70''
Penn 5'9 70''
Fitch 6' 74''
Serra 5'6'' 68''
Hughes 5'9'' 73''
Koscheck 5'10 73''
Sherk 5'6 67''
Trigg 5'9 70.5''
Mayhem 6'1 77''(gsp had 74'' reach back then and annoucer said miller had 3'' on him)
Hieron - cant find his reach.
Karo- 5'10 72''

The HOFF · 09-29-09, 01:20 PM

A 10-bout lineup, including a five-fight main card, today was officially announced for November's UFC 105 event.

MAIN CARD

Randy Couture vs. Brandon Vera
Michael Bisping vs. Denis Kang
Dan Hardy vs. Mike Swick
Matt Brown vs. James Wilks
Ross Pearson vs. Aaron Riley

PRELIMINARY CARD

Terry Etim vs. Shannon Gugerty
John Hathaway vs. Paul Taylor
Nick Osipczak vs. Matthew Riddle
Alexander Gustafsson vs. Jared Hamman
Roli Delgado vs. Andre Winner

brooks85 · 09-29-09, 01:31 PM

Id rather see any of those undercard fights than brown/wilks riley/pearson, except delgado/winner that belongs on the undercard.

illmatick · 09-29-09, 01:39 PM

Matt Brown vs. James Wilks is probably the fight I'm looking forward to the most, big fan of wilks, I'm salivating at what the line might open at

The HOFF · 09-29-09, 01:39 PM

I guess they have to put their shitty TUF winners on the main card. Terry Etim on the undercard is a crime.

illmatick · 09-29-09, 01:41 PM

Etim is going to tool Gugerty, I pray the line opens around -220 or less, doubt it.

Bread · 09-29-09, 02:24 PM

Nick Osipczak vs. Matthew Riddle

I like that.

brooks85 · 09-29-09, 04:47 PM

Ya i like that one and I want to see Gustafsson in action

The HOFF · 10-09-09, 01:10 PM

Lines are moving.

Brandon Vera -115
Randy Couture -115

Michael Bisping -115
Dennis Kang -115

brooks85 · 10-12-09, 09:29 PM

He better be training hard.

brooks85 · 10-12-09, 09:31 PM

yummy

Dan Hardy -145

Mike Swick +115

Bread · 10-12-09, 09:33 PM

I'm really really really looking forward to Hardy-Swick fight.

Like, a lot.

brooks85 · 10-12-09, 09:43 PM

yessir, gets us one step closer to GSP facing a real threat in a long long time. TOO QUICK

The HOFF · 10-12-09, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by brooks85

yummy

Dan Hardy -145

Mike Swick +115

I was talking about this on another forum. Those odds are up at SportBet.com. It is most likely a mistake. I think they just substituted Swick for Kim and did not change the odds. If you remember Hardy was -145 and Kim was +115. No way Swick is a dog in this fight.

brooks85 · 10-12-09, 10:33 PM

i agree, but a lot of people will be drinking hardyaid, especially since the fight is in the UK. Either way, ill wait for a more legit book to release.

The HOFF · 10-25-09, 02:28 AM

Dan Hardy +150
Mike Swick -180

James Wilks +135
Matt Brown -165

Ross Pearson +195
Aaron Riley -245

The HOFF · 10-26-09, 01:51 PM

I took Swick pretty heavy already, anticipating that the line will be moving quite a bit.

The HOFF · 10-28-09, 12:36 PM

Weigh-ins for "UFC 105: Couture vs. Vera," which is the UFC's next major show, take place Nov. 13 at the MEN Arena in Manchester, England. The weigh-ins begin in the U.S. at 11 a.m. ET (8 a.m. PT).

The HOFF · 11-11-09, 12:35 PM

*THREAD BUMP*

brooks85 · 11-11-09, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by brooks85

check this guy out Alexander Gustafsson, he is supposed to be make his debut at 105. 6'5 in the LHW division. He hasn't beat anyone important yet but this kid could do some damage in the future. No word on who he is fighting yet but with a win his UFC career could begin.

Be interested how long he stays at his camp if he wins. I hope he comes stateside and gets picked up.
http://www.mmaunltd.com/news-detail....ns-for-ufc.htm

opening as a underdog too

The HOFF · 11-11-09, 07:07 PM

Brandon Vera -110
Randy Couture -120

Michael Bisping -105
Dennis Kang -125

Dan Hardy +185
Mick Swick -225

James Wilks +130
Matt Brown -160

Ross Pearson +165
Aaron Riley -205

Rolando Delgado +265
Andre Winner -325

Paul Taylor +205
John Hathaway -255

Alexander Gustafsson +105
Jared Hamman -135

Shannon Gugerty +265
Terry Etim -325

Nick Osipczak +245
Matt Riddle -305

Dennis Siver +260
Paul Kelly -320

The HOFF · 11-11-09, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by brooks85

opening as a underdog too

Brooks I love this play. I've watched a few Gustafsson fights and a few Hamman fights. This is one of my top plays for the card!!

illmatick · 11-11-09, 07:19 PM

hathaway and Riddle!!!!!! thank you god for these undercard fights

Sekrah · 11-12-09, 05:09 AM

Gustafsson looks like a very strong boxer. Strong accurate striking. Good takedown defense, I'll take a stab at him vs Hamman who hasn't beaten anyone either.

Bread · 11-12-09, 09:50 AM

I have 4 winners, Mr. Moldy Bread.