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  • JAKEPEAVY21
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    #71
    Originally posted by firekillex
    seeing videos of Holloway he still doesnt look right imo.... he has never been the sharpest tool in the shed but something about his speech and eyes just look off to me

    guy is gigantic for 145 and cutting all that weight plus he might train like a meathead in hawaii , im not sure hes all there right now.. Ortega isnt some huge hitter but its something to keep an eye on
    agree that he still does not seem right..
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    • firekillex
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      #72
      Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
      agree that he still does not seem right..
      3rd episode of embedded when hes talking the first minute of the video... man his eyes just look wrong , he looks like hes suffering from extreme weight cutting or concussions again, he always had very corny lines but at the press conference he just kept stumbling his words and repeating the same things... i hope hes alright because man it seems like he has CTE and hes in his mid 20s
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      • JAKEPEAVY21
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        #73
        Originally posted by firekillex
        3rd episode of embedded when hes talking the first minute of the video... man his eyes just look wrong , he looks like hes suffering from extreme weight cutting or concussions again, he always had very corny lines but at the press conference he just kept stumbling his words and repeating the same things... i hope hes alright because man it seems like he has CTE and hes in his mid 20s
        yep, thought same thing while watching embedded...love Max, hopefully he is not a vegetable by the time he retires.
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        • PaperTrail07
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          #74
          Do you think he is 100% and ready for the fight? I feel he should win here...
          Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
          yep, thought same thing while watching embedded...love Max, hopefully he is not a vegetable by the time he retires.
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          • JAKEPEAVY21
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            #75
            Originally posted by PaperTrail07
            Do you think he is 100% and ready for the fight? I feel he should win here...
            I hope so...maybe I'm misreading it but interesting how killex and I thought the same thing.
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            • Demonata
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              #76
              I think this will be like woodley vs darren till. Woodly slight favorite and won easy agaibst hyped till. Holloway slight favorite and wins easy against hyped ortega
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              • THE_LOCKSMITH
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                #77
                Line has flipped Ortega now the fav at books like Pinnacle, Bovada, DSI, BetOnLine
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                • DavidGoliath5003
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                  #78
                  Public slamming Ortega. I still think Holloway is a class above Ortega, so long as hes not injured. Holloway at even money is crazy
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                  • Demonata
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
                    Line has flipped Ortega now the fav at books like Pinnacle, Bovada, DSI, BetOnLine
                    Good!!! Just like what happened to woodley
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                    • Hugo de Naranja
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                      • 04-14-16
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by DavidGoliath5003
                      Public slamming Ortega. I still think Holloway is a class above Ortega, so long as hes not injured. Holloway at even money is crazy
                      Sharps slamming Holloway
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                      • Demonata
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                        #81
                        Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                        Sharps slamming Holloway
                        Im not buying the ortega hype at all
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                        • Thrilla
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                          #82
                          Great everybody on Holloway. Expecting a step-out 5 unit bet from Hugo on it aswell.

                          We all know what happened the last time with Zombie.

                          Warning!
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                          • Thrilla
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                            #83



                            End of video includes a free pick from Joe on Lawler vs. Askren. Lawler value according to Joe.

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                            Last edited by Thrilla; 12-06-18, 08:35 PM.
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                            • JIBBBY
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                              #84
                              Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                              agree that he still does not seem right..
                              Most Hawaiian locals are brain dead to start with. Holloway no different.. I'm sure he'll be good to go come fight time. If he's not he'll back out like he did before..
                              Last edited by JIBBBY; 12-07-18, 12:20 PM.
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                              • Hugo de Naranja
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                                #85
                                Originally posted by Thrilla
                                Great everybody on Holloway. Expecting a step-out 5 unit bet from Hugo on it aswell.

                                We all know what happened the last time with Zombie.

                                Warning!
                                I guess it’ll be an Ortega KO at 4:59 of R5 then
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                                • KingHawkins
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                                  #86
                                  I got down some action last night, $1130 between Max, OAM (still boring, don't like him), Katona, Lima, Nina, Thiago

                                  Will be making the drive to add more tomorrow afternoon. I have a four figure wager planned on a fight where I think there is a ton of value.
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                                  • Demonata
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                                    #87
                                    I have chad laprise in everything
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                                    • JIBBBY
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                                      #88
                                      Ortega by sub for me.. Wicked neck choke late it the fight. Holloway taps.. Mark my words.. Ortega will be down on the cards and pull of the late win..
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                                      • Demonata
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                                        #89
                                        Holloway lock
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                                        • JIBBBY
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                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by Demonata
                                          Holloway lock
                                          Nope Dem.. Only lock I see happening is around Holloway's neck..

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                                          • firekillex
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                                            #91
                                            both guys / ladies made weight
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                                            • PaperTrail07
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                                              #92
                                              I feel that as well....
                                              Originally posted by Demonata
                                              I think this will be like woodley vs darren till. Woodly slight favorite and won easy agaibst hyped till. Holloway slight favorite and wins easy against hyped ortega
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                                              • Thrilla
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                                                #93
                                                I don't

                                                Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                I feel that as well....
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                                                • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                  Nope Dem.. Only lock I see happening is around Holloway's neck..

                                                  That was a good comeback haha
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                                                  • PaperTrail07
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                                                    #95
                                                    #1) UFC Fighting
                                                    Selection : M. Holloway 12/8/2018 9:10PM - (PST) Money Line +110 for Game

                                                    #2) UFC Fighting
                                                    Selection : A. Oliveira 12/8/2018 7:40PM - (PST) Money Line +125 for Game

                                                    #3) UFC Fighting
                                                    Selection : M. Lopez 12/8/2018 3:40PM - (PST) Money Line +160 for Game

                                                    Risking : 45.00 To Win : 507.82 USD

                                                    Solid Odds....

                                                    250.00 214.90 Fighting - 24006 V. Shevchenko (w) -385 for Game
                                                    Fighting - 24010 T. Santos -210 for Game
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                                                    • PaperTrail07
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                                                      #96
                                                      Started Firing Bullets Already Leggooooooooo
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                                                      • PaperTrail07
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                                                        #97
                                                        : M. Holloway 12/8/2018 9:10PM - (PST) (round winner, fight winner, lets GO)Money Line +110 for Game

                                                        : V. Shevchenko (w) 12/8/2018 8:40PM - (PST) (by murder)Money Line -320 for Game

                                                        : T. Santos 12/8/2018 8:10PM - (PST) (seems to easy, usually where I get cracked) lol...Money Line -190 for Game

                                                        : A. Oliveira 12/8/2018 7:40PM - (PST) (worth the + $ IMO) 29-28 or TKOMoney Line +125 for Game

                                                        : E. Theodorou 12/8/2018 5:40PM - (PST) (rinse and repeat 30-27 decision)Money Line -120 for Game

                                                        : O. Aubin-Mercier 12/8/2018 5:10PM - (PST) Money Line -120 for Game

                                                        (Another tough fight.....hopefully he had a good camp...edges this and takes it to the GROUND

                                                        : M. Lopez 12/8/2018 3:40PM - (PST) Money Line +160 for Game


                                                        (close fight....+160 seems fine w me)....Lopez is tough and looking to avoid 3rd straight loss....
                                                        .NEEDS
                                                        this W.....
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                                                        • JIBBBY
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                                                          #98
                                                          Got this in when the prop first came out.. I may still take the Sub prop as well at +225.. I do think if Ortega is to win it's gonna be ITD.. His boxing and power has improved so the knock out could still happen.. Submission finish is most likely out come though for Ortega.

                                                          $100.00 $146.00 Pending 12/8/18 11:59pm MMA Props Fighting 1005 Ortega wins inside distance +146* vs Not Ortega inside distance
                                                          Last edited by JIBBBY; 12-07-18, 09:45 PM.
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                                                          • PaperTrail07
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                                                            • 08-29-08
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                                                            #99
                                                            Feel Dawadu will prob win a dec as well......counter punch his way.........
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                                                            • PaperTrail07
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                                                              • 08-29-08
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                                                              #100
                                                              If my fight descriptions are not clear enough....refer to the guy that predicted Nguyen by first round TKO His crystal ball pegged that one lol...
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                                                              • Teem
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                                                                #101
                                                                Any opinions on the Matt Lopez/Brad Katona fight? I wanna take Lopez for a dog pick.
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                                                                • Thor4140
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                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by firekillex
                                                                  3rd episode of embedded when hes talking the first minute of the video... man his eyes just look wrong , he looks like hes suffering from extreme weight cutting or concussions again, he always had very corny lines but at the press conference he just kept stumbling his words and repeating the same things... i hope hes alright because man it seems like he has CTE and hes in his mid 20s
                                                                  I just didn’t see it and after just watching the weigh-in I think Max looks great. It is Max or nothing for me.
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                                                                  • PaperTrail07
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                                                                    #103
                                                                    like the +160 myself...
                                                                    Originally posted by Teem
                                                                    Any opinions on the Matt Lopez/Brad Katona fight? I wanna take Lopez for a dog pick.
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                                                                    • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                                      • 04-14-16
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                                                                      #104
                                                                      UFC 231: Holloway vs. Ortega Picks:
                                                                      Aleksandar Rakic Round 1 TKO (Punches)
                                                                      Carlos Diego Ferreira Round 1 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
                                                                      Chad Laprise Round 1 TKO (Punches)
                                                                      Matthew Lopez Round 1 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
                                                                      Eryk Anders Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
                                                                      Jessica Eye Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
                                                                      Olivier Aubin-Mercier Unanimous Decision (30-27 x2, 29-28)
                                                                      Claudia Gadelha Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
                                                                      Thiago Santos Round 2 TKO (Punches)
                                                                      Hakeem Dawodu Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
                                                                      Gunnar Nelson Round 1 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
                                                                      Valentina Shevchenko Split Decision (48-47 x2, 47-48)
                                                                      Max Holloway Unanimous Decision (49-46 x3)
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                                                                      • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                                        #105
                                                                        UFC 231: Holloway vs. Ortega

                                                                        Fight Pass Prelims:

                                                                        Fight #1: Rakic vs. Clark
                                                                        Rakic+Clark Under 1.5 (+140) 1u
                                                                        Rakic Submission (+740) .5u

                                                                        Fight #2: Ferreira vs. Nelson (DEBUT)
                                                                        Ferreira ITD (+100) 1u

                                                                        Fight #3: Laprise vs. Lima
                                                                        Laprise ITD (-110) 1.1u to win 1u
                                                                        Laprise KO/TKO (+110) 1u
                                                                        Laprise Round 1 (+225) 1u

                                                                        Fight #4: Lopez vs. Katona
                                                                        Lopez (+220) 1u
                                                                        Lopez ITD (+475) .5u
                                                                        Lopez Submission (+900) .5u
                                                                        Lopez Round 1 (+1000) .5u

                                                                        Fox Sports 1 Prelims:

                                                                        Fight #5: Anders vs. Theodorou
                                                                        Anders Scorecards = No Action (-165) 3.3u to win 2u
                                                                        Anders ITD (+450) 1u
                                                                        Anders Round 1 (+700) .5u
                                                                        Anders Submission (+1750) .5u

                                                                        Hedge:
                                                                        Theodorou Decision (+160) 1u

                                                                        Fight #6: Eye vs. Chookagian
                                                                        Eye (+155) 1u
                                                                        Eye Decision (+220) 1u

                                                                        Fight #7: Aubin-Mercier vs. Burns
                                                                        Aubin-Mercier (-105) 2.63u to win 2.5u
                                                                        Aubin-Mercier Submission (+900) 1u

                                                                        Hedge:
                                                                        Burns ITD (+222) 1.5u

                                                                        Fight #8: Gadelha vs. Ansaroff
                                                                        Ansaroff (+260) 1u
                                                                        Ansaroff Round 3 (+2300) .5u

                                                                        Main Card:

                                                                        Fight #9: Santos vs. Manuwa
                                                                        Santos+Manuwa Won’t Start Round 2 (-110) 1.1u to win 1u
                                                                        Santos Round 2 (+478) 1u

                                                                        Hedge:
                                                                        Manuwa KO/TKO (+255) 1u

                                                                        Fight #10: Dawodu vs. Bochniak
                                                                        Dawodu -3.5 (+130) 1.5u
                                                                        Dawodu Decision (+164) 1u

                                                                        Hedge(s):
                                                                        Bochniak Scorecards = No Action (+215) 1.5u
                                                                        Bochniak ITD (+500) 1u

                                                                        Fight #11: Nelson vs. Oliveira
                                                                        Nelson (-120) 1.2u to win 1u
                                                                        Nelson+Oliveira Under 1.5 (+100) 1u
                                                                        Nelson ITD (+125) 2u
                                                                        Nelson Submission (+150) 1.5u
                                                                        Nelson Round 1 (+275) 1u
                                                                        Nelson Round 2 (+425) .5u

                                                                        Hedge(s):
                                                                        Oliveira KO/TKO (+245) 1u
                                                                        Oliveira Round 2 (+650) .5u

                                                                        Fight #12: Shevchenko vs. Jedrzejczyk
                                                                        Jedrzejczyk (+255) 2u
                                                                        Jedrzejczyk Decision (+350) .5u

                                                                        Hedge:
                                                                        Shevchenko KO/TKO (+522) 1u

                                                                        Fight #13: Holloway (C) vs. Ortega
                                                                        Holloway (-138) 6.88u to win 5u
                                                                        Holloway -5.5 (+150) 4u
                                                                        Holloway Unanimous Decision (+375) 2u
                                                                        Holloway KO/TKO (+460) 1u
                                                                        Holloway Round 3 (+1025) 1.5u
                                                                        Holloway Round 4 (+1425) .5u
                                                                        Holloway Round 5 (+2025) .5u
                                                                        Holloway+Ortega Draw (+8500) .25u

                                                                        Hedge(s):
                                                                        Ortega Submission (+242) 3u
                                                                        Ortega Round 3 (+900) 1u
                                                                        Ortega Round 5 (+1700) .5u
                                                                        Ortega Split/Majority Decision (+1600) .5u

                                                                        Straight Parlays:
                                                                        Rakic/Laprise (-147) 2.94u to win 2u
                                                                        Laprise/Anders (+118) 1u
                                                                        Santos/Dawodu (+119) 1u
                                                                        Anders/Dawodu (+135) 1u
                                                                        Dawodu/Nelson (+171) 1u

                                                                        Prop Parlays:
                                                                        Rakic -3.5/Laprise -3.5 (-112) 1.5u to win 1.33u
                                                                        Gadelha+Ansaroff GD/Shevchenko+Jedrzejczyk GD (-102) 2.04u to win 2u
                                                                        Laprise+Lima WGD/Nelson+Oliveira WGD (+120) 1u
                                                                        Laprise -3.5/Dawodu (+133) 1u
                                                                        Nelson/Shevchenko+Jedrzejczyk GD (+145) 1.5u
                                                                        Dawodu/Nelson/Shevchenko+Jedrzejczyk O4.5 (+293) .5u
                                                                        Rakic ITD/Ferreira+Nelson WGD/Laprise+Lima WGD (+323) .5u
                                                                        Dawodu Decision/Nelson+Oliveira U1.5 (+415) .75u
                                                                        Anders+Theodorou GD/Eye+Chookagian GD/Aubin-Mercier+Burns GD/Gadelha+Ansaroff GD/Dawodu+Bochniak GD (+461) .5u
                                                                        Aubin-Mercier/Gadelha Decision/Santos KO (+471) .5u
                                                                        Rakic+Clark WGD/Ferreira+Nelson WGD/Laprise+Lima WGD/Lopez+Katona WGD (+827) .5u
                                                                        Lopez/Anders+Theodorou GD/Eye (+845) .5u

                                                                        Full Card Props:
                                                                        Over 7.5 Fights Go Distance (+210) 1.25u
                                                                        Over 8.5 Fights Go Distance (+550) .5u
                                                                        Over 9.5 Fights Go Distance (+1595) .25u
                                                                        Over 10.5 Fights Go Distance (+6675) .25u
                                                                        Over 11.5 Fights Go Distance (+49400) .25u

                                                                        Multi-Event Parlays:
                                                                        Shore/Ferreira -3.5 (-120) 2.4u to win 2u
                                                                        Santos+Manuwa WSR3/Cyborg (-114) 2.28u to win 2u
                                                                        Santos+Manuwa WSR3/Font (+114) 1u
                                                                        Santos+Manuwa WSR3/Hooker (+124) 1u
                                                                        Santos/Cyborg (+130) 2.5u
                                                                        Dawodu/Dillashaw (+133) 2.5u
                                                                        Ferreira+Nelson WGD/A. Lee (+141) 1.5u
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