UFC 223: Ferguson vs. Khabib (April 07, 2018)

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  • JIBBBY
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    • 12-10-09
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    #596
    Originally posted by Thrilla
    I told yaz if it would go the distance.

    Youz got to earn it! Win in a convincing fashion. Take it from the champ!
    That's true but JJ is a points round fighter mostly.. Volume striker, JJ isn't knocking out or submitting Rose.. Her only chance was to out point her on the cards which I thought she did...

    You do need to clearly dominate the fight to win the belt though so that's why I'm not calling it a robbery.. Still it's a shady decision win for Rose IMO....
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    • UncleChael
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      • 10-30-13
      • 3979

      #597
      Originally posted by JIBBBY
      That's true but JJ is a points round fighter mostly.. Volume striker, JJ isn't knocking out or submitting Rose.. Her only chance was to out point her on the cards which I thought she did...

      You do need to clearly dominate the fight to win the belt though so that's why I'm not calling it a robbery.. Still it's a shady decision win for Rose IMO....
      She knocked her around silly the first fight and merked her last night.. Lol your high as hell Jibbbers.
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      • Kermit
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        • 09-27-10
        • 32555

        #598
        Originally posted by JIBBBY
        That's true but JJ is a points round fighter mostly.. Volume striker, JJ isn't knocking out or submitting Rose.. Her only chance was to out point her on the cards which I thought she did...

        You do need to clearly dominate the fight to win the belt though so that's why I'm not calling it a robbery.. Still it's a shady decision win for Rose IMO....
        Rose easily won 3 rounds to 2. JJ may have landed more overall shots, but Rose landed the cleaner and more powerful ones which is why JJ's face looked like this.



        This switch uppercut was nicer than anything JJ landed.

        Last edited by Kermit; 04-08-18, 09:14 PM.
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        • Hugo de Naranja
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          • 04-14-16
          • 14140

          #599
          Congrats on the win Chael. Sorry about the slow payment, I’ve been away from my computer all weekend.
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          • TPowell
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            • 02-21-08
            • 18842

            #600
            seems like a classic case of volume vs more powerful shots. Glad I didn't play JJ after all. I played Clark and then a parlay with AES, Khabib, and Zabit but tossed a little away on a Kattar by DEC prop. I will say that it sounds like Zabit needs a few more fights before he even THINKS about title contendership. Getting hit like that against Bochniak is an awful sign that tells me he needs some work defensively.
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            • Richard Clock
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              • 02-09-18
              • 394

              #601
              Originally posted by TPowell
              seems like a classic case of volume vs more powerful shots. Glad I didn't play JJ after all. I played Clark and then a parlay with AES, Khabib, and Zabit but tossed a little away on a Kattar by DEC prop. I will say that it sounds like Zabit needs a few more fights before he even THINKS about title contendership. Getting hit like that against Bochniak is an awful sign that tells me he needs some work defensively.
              Zabit outlanded Bochniak more than 2 to 1 and Bochniak landed 26% of his strikes. I will be looking forward to betting Zabit all the way to his likely title shot if this is what the public perception is
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              • JIBBBY
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                • 12-10-09
                • 83686

                #602
                Originally posted by UncleChael
                She knocked her around silly the first fight and merked her last night.. Lol your high as hell Jibbbers.
                I was a little drunk but not high. I saw it differently Unc..

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                • turbozed
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-15-08
                  • 2435

                  #603
                  Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                  seems like we saw it the same...hit literally everything but JJ....and as usual..should have hedged more lol..
                  I was so wrapped up in the action that my dumbass completely forgot to live bet the fight. I would've pounded Rose +330 or whatever the line was between the 4th and 5th since I thought the fight was 2-2.

                  Honestly, the clearest rounds were Rds 1 and 5 for Rose and Rds 3 and 4 for JJ. Rd 2 was a tossup that I gave to Rose. No fighter there should've gotten 49-46.

                  I feel the pain of whoever bet JJ +5.5 because I remember betting Cyborg -5.5 against Holm and those inexplicable 48-47s costed me big.
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                  • slikec
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                    • 01-11-11
                    • 1032

                    #604
                    Originally posted by eidolon
                    I still can't believe all 3 judges had the Rose/JJ fight at 49-46. I don't see how Rose could have won rounds 3 or 4.
                    Each judge gave JJ another round actually 2,3 and 4. But yes in my opinion was 48/47 for either girl not 49/46 Rose.
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                    • terpkeg
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                      • 10-26-09
                      • 2364

                      #605
                      Originally posted by turbozed
                      I was so wrapped up in the action that my dumbass completely forgot to live bet the fight. I would've pounded Rose +330 or whatever the line was between the 4th and 5th since I thought the fight was 2-2.

                      Honestly, the clearest rounds were Rds 1 and 5 for Rose and Rds 3 and 4 for JJ. Rd 2 was a tossup that I gave to Rose. No fighter there should've gotten 49-46.

                      I feel the pain of whoever bet JJ +5.5 because I remember betting Cyborg -5.5 against Holm and those inexplicable 48-47s costed me big.
                      I saw fight same way. Took JJ +325 after 2nd thinking it was close round and Rose +325 after 4th thinking good chance it was 2-2
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                      • firekillex
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                        • 09-18-13
                        • 6420

                        #606
                        i literally dont know 1 person who though JJ actually won that fight lol
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                        • freelee
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                          • 02-02-10
                          • 751

                          #607
                          Originally posted by firekillex
                          i literally dont know 1 person who though JJ actually won that fight lol
                          I agree Rose clearly won but 2 of the judges score round 4 for Rose which doesn't make any sense.
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                          • Shagdogy
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                            • 06-16-10
                            • 3564

                            #608
                            Originally posted by Shagdogy
                            Clark dec +340, .25u
                            Clark/MRod o1.5, -149, 1.49u
                            OAM +104, win 1u
                            Karolina K by dec -115, 1.15u
                            Gritz +145, win 1u
                            Mago/Boch o1.5, -170, 1.7u

                            That's it for now... been waffling on JJ/Rose. Rose made that last fight look like no fluke, but if you watch their catalogue, JJ looks like the better fighter. Hmmmm.
                            Card Total: 6-0, +6.0u

                            YTD: 41-36, +15.16u

                            Event Total: 6-4
                            Nice to be back on track. Seems like most cashed on this card. Nice work!
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                            • PaperTrail07
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                              • 08-29-08
                              • 20423

                              #609
                              RRJJR...was clear to me buy HEY....lol...
                              Originally posted by freelee
                              I agree Rose clearly won but 2 of the judges score round 4 for Rose which doesn't make any sense.
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                              • PaperTrail07
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                                • 08-29-08
                                • 20423

                                #610
                                Willsay ....the result was right but looking INTO the cards is a lil wacky....either way, we all know they got it right..
                                Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                RRJJR...was clear to me buy HEY....lol...
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                                • firekillex
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                                  • 09-18-13
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                                  #611
                                  Originally posted by freelee
                                  I agree Rose clearly won but 2 of the judges score round 4 for Rose which doesn't make any sense.
                                  agreed... round 3 was more of a toss up , round 4 was JJ for sure
                                  round 1,2,5 were clear Rose as well.... Rose really showed the heart of a champion round 5 , very impressed with her coming in and stopping all that momentum and taking the round , that uppercut was nasty
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                                  • firekillex
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                                    #612
                                    jibby is the adalaide byrd judge of the SBR forum lmao
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                                    • UncleChael
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                                      • 10-30-13
                                      • 3979

                                      #613
                                      Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                      Congrats on the win Chael. Sorry about the slow payment, I’ve been away from my computer all weekend.
                                      All good brother. Thanks. I listened to her on the Rogan podcast and thought no way is this chick gonna lose this fight.
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                                      • Thor4140
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                                        • 02-09-08
                                        • 22296

                                        #614
                                        Originally posted by firekillex
                                        agreed... round 3 was more of a toss up , round 4 was JJ for sure
                                        round 1,2,5 were clear Rose as well.... Rose really showed the heart of a champion round 5 , very impressed with her coming in and stopping all that momentum and taking the round , that uppercut was nasty
                                        Round three was one of those pitty rounds for JJ cause she was getting smashed the first two . Round two was about as close as round 1. Not close at all. If it was 2-2 going in than Rose took five like a champion when i thought she might be in a little trouble. Anyone who thought JJ won round five needs to drop out of Jibby school for judging
                                        Last edited by Thor4140; 04-09-18, 05:05 PM.
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                                        • Thrilla
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                                          • 03-10-15
                                          • 13809

                                          #615
                                          <a href='https://postimages.org/' target='_blank'><img src='https://s7.postimg.org/5cgvt34m3/khabib_the_eagle_nurmagomedov_by_jps24-dc0sumr.jpg' border='0' alt='khabib_the_eagle_nurmagomedov_by_jp s24-dc0sumr'/></a>
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                                          • Sanity Check
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                                            • 03-30-13
                                            • 10962

                                            #616
                                            Originally posted by firekillex
                                            jibby is the adalaide byrd judge of the SBR forum lmao
                                            I can't believe you just said that.

                                            Others are much more deserving of that title.

                                            (Thx I needed a laugh.)
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                                            • Hugo de Naranja
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                                              • 04-14-16
                                              • 14140

                                              #617
                                              Originally posted by Kermit
                                              Agree 100%. Especially Max, coming off an injury, not great at avoiding the takedown.
                                              Lol wut? Got taken down McGregor years ago. Hasn't been taken down at all in his last 9 fights. 83% TDD in the UFC. Max is a great takedown defender.
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                                              • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                • 04-14-16
                                                • 14140

                                                #618
                                                Originally posted by terpkeg
                                                It was +325. Almost everyone had JJ winning rounds 3-4. 2-2 going into 5th and Rose movement very compromised. Shocked to see three 49-46.

                                                http://mmadecisions.com/decision/895...na-Jedrzejczyk
                                                I had it 48-47 Namajunas with her winning 1/2/5. Pretty surprised to see a (49-46 x3) Namajunas.
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                                                • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                  • 04-14-16
                                                  • 14140

                                                  #619
                                                  Originally posted by Shagdogy
                                                  ^^^ $$$$$$$$ Back. On. Track.
                                                  Beast
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                                                  • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                    • 04-14-16
                                                    • 14140

                                                    #620
                                                    Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                    i still cant get over Rose's footwork. Looked like she has been boxing for 25 years.
                                                    Her striking looked great.
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                                                    • firekillex
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                                                      • 09-18-13
                                                      • 6420

                                                      #621
                                                      how you guys think rose vs andrade goes??
                                                      rose footwork looks very elite lately, but andrade is just an animal and is definitely going to take her down, rose has a great guard as well... this is going to be an exciting fight for sure.... i think andrade wins a decision but its very dangerous fight for both girls
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                                                      • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                        • 04-14-16
                                                        • 14140

                                                        #622
                                                        Originally posted by firekillex
                                                        how you guys think rose vs andrade goes??
                                                        rose footwork looks very elite lately, but andrade is just an animal and is definitely going to take her down, rose has a great guard as well... this is going to be an exciting fight for sure.... i think andrade wins a decision but its very dangerous fight for both girls
                                                        Think Andrade is a nightmare matchup for Namajunas
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                                                        • Sanity Check
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                                                          • 03-30-13
                                                          • 10962

                                                          #623
                                                          Originally posted by firekillex
                                                          rose footwork looks very elite lately

                                                          Despite what Thor4140 says, it was the same movement Rose used in her fight with Michelle Waterson near to the finish.


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                                                          • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                            • 04-14-16
                                                            • 14140

                                                            #624
                                                            UFC 223: Ferguson vs. Nurmagomedov Picks:
                                                            Devin Clark Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
                                                            Ashlee Evans-Smith Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
                                                            Olivier Aubin-Mercier Round 2 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
                                                            Karolina Kowalkiewicz Unanimous Decision (30-27 x2, 29-28)
                                                            Joe Lauzon Round 1 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
                                                            Zabit Magomedsharipov Round 2 Submission (Anaconda Choke)
                                                            Calvin Kattar Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
                                                            Joanna Jedrzejczyk Unanimous Decision (50-45, 49-46 x2)
                                                            Khabib Nurmagomedov Round 3 Submission (Arm-Triangle Choke)
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                                                            • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                              • 04-14-16
                                                              • 14140

                                                              #625
                                                              UFC 223: Ferguson vs. Nurmagomedov

                                                              Fox Sports 1 Prelims:

                                                              Fight #1: Clark vs. Rodriguez (DEBUT)
                                                              Clark Decision (+350) +3.5u

                                                              Result: Devin Clark Unanimous Decision (30-27 x2, 29-28)
                                                              Fight: +3.5u
                                                              Card: +3.5u

                                                              Fight #2: Evans-Smith vs. Rawlings
                                                              Evans-Smith -3.5 (+235) +1.7625u
                                                              Evans-Smith ITD (+431) -1u

                                                              Hedge(s):
                                                              Rawlings ITD (+575) -.5u
                                                              Rawlings KO/TKO (+5625) -.25u

                                                              Result: Ashlee Evans-Smith Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
                                                              Fight: +0.0125u
                                                              Card: +3.5125u

                                                              Fight #3: Aubin-Mercier vs. Dunham
                                                              Aubin-Mercier (+100) +2u
                                                              Aubin-Mercier ITD (+434) +4.34u
                                                              Aubin-Mercier Submission (+750) -.5u
                                                              Aubin-Mercier KO/TKO (+2565) +6.4125u

                                                              Result: Olivier Aubin-Mercier Round 1 TKO (Knees to the Body and Punches)
                                                              Fight: +12.2525u
                                                              Card: +15.765u

                                                              Fight #4: Kowalkiewicz vs. Herrig
                                                              Kowalkiewicz Decision (-107) +1u
                                                              Kowalkiewicz -3.5 (+185) -1u

                                                              Hedge:
                                                              Herrig ITD (+549) -.5u

                                                              Result: Karolina Kowalkiewicz Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
                                                              Fight: -0.5u
                                                              Card: +15.265u

                                                              Main Card:

                                                              Fight #5: Lauzon vs. Gruetzemacher
                                                              Lauzon Submission (+255) -1u
                                                              Lauzon Round 1 (+300) -.5u

                                                              Result: Chris Gruetzemacher Round 2 TKO (Corner Stoppage)
                                                              Fight: -1.5u
                                                              Card: +13.765u

                                                              Fight #6: Magomedsharipov vs. Bochniak
                                                              Magomedsharipov ITD (+111) -2.5u
                                                              Magomedsharipov Submission (+302) -1u

                                                              Result: Zabit Magomedsharipov Unanimous Decision (30-27 x2, 29-28)
                                                              Fight: -3.5u
                                                              Card: +10.265u

                                                              Fight #7: Kattar vs. Moicano
                                                              Kattar (-105) -1.575u
                                                              Kattar Decision (+185) -1.25u
                                                              Kattar KO/TKO (+430) -.5u
                                                              Kattar Round 3 (+1150) -.25u

                                                              Result: Renato Moicano Unanimous Decision (30-27 x2, 29-28)
                                                              Fight: -3.575u
                                                              Card: +6.69u

                                                              Fight #8: Namajunas (C) vs. Jedrzejczyk
                                                              Jedrzejczyk (-115) -5.75u
                                                              Jedrzejczyk -5.5 (+185) -1u
                                                              Jedrzejczyk Decision (+195) -1u
                                                              Jedrzejczyk Unanimous Decision (+250) -2.5u
                                                              Jedrzejczyk KO/TKO (+420) -1u
                                                              Jedrzejczyk Split/Majority Decision (+1215) -.25u

                                                              Hedge(s):
                                                              Namajunas ITD (+265) -1u
                                                              Namajunas Submission (+493) -1u
                                                              Namajunas Round 1 (+600) -.5u
                                                              Namajunas Round 2 (+800) -.5u

                                                              Result: Rose Namajunas Unanimous Decision (49-46 x3)
                                                              Fight: -14.5u
                                                              Card: -7.81u

                                                              Fight #9: Nurmagomedov vs. Iaquinta
                                                              Nurmagomedov Submission (+185) -1.5u

                                                              Hedge:
                                                              Iaquinta Scorecards = No Action (+460) +0u

                                                              Result: Khabib Nurmagomedov Unanimous Decision (50-44, 50-43 x2)
                                                              Fight: -1.5u
                                                              Card: -9.31u

                                                              Straight Parlays:
                                                              Kowalkiewicz+Herrig GD/Kattar+Moicano GD (+111) +2.775u

                                                              Iaquinta/Kattar (+225) -1u

                                                              Results: See Above
                                                              Fights: +1.775u
                                                              Card: -7.535u

                                                              Prop Parlays:
                                                              Kowalkiewicz/Magomedsharipov -3.5 (+102) +1.02u

                                                              Kowalkiewicz Decision/Lauzon/Magomedsharipov ITD (+415) -.25u
                                                              Kattar/Jedrzejczyk/Nurmagomedov+Iaquinta WSR3 (+564) -.5u
                                                              Clark/Evans-Smith Decision/Aubin-Mercier (+670) +1.675u

                                                              Results: See Above
                                                              Fights: +1.945u
                                                              Card: -5.59u

                                                              Full Card Props:
                                                              Over 5.5 Fights Go Distance (+235) +2.35u
                                                              Over 6.5 Fights Go Distance (+767) +3.835u
                                                              No Fights End in KO/TKO (+1108) -.5u

                                                              FOTN: Magomedsharipov+Bochniak
                                                              POTN: Aubin-Mercier, Gruetzemacher
                                                              Fastest Submission: None
                                                              Fastest KO: Aubin-Mercier R1 (0:53)
                                                              Decisions: 7
                                                              Results: See Above
                                                              Fights: +5.685u
                                                              Final Card Total = +0.095u

                                                              Multi-Event Parlays:
                                                              Magomedsharipov -3.5/Thompson (-102) 1.02u to win 1u
                                                              Dern/Iaquinta (+128) +0.82u

                                                              Results: See Above
                                                              Fights: +0.82u, Magomedsharipov -3.5/Thompson Carries Over
                                                              Multi-Event Parlays = +0.82u, Magomedsharipov -3.5/Thompson Carries Over
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                                                              • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                                • 04-14-16
                                                                • 14140

                                                                #626
                                                                Won a bunch on OAM KO/TKO then lost it all back on JJ bets for a wash of a night. Won a tiny bit on Multi-Event Parlays with a 2.5u wager on Dern/Iaquinta (versus) Felder that paid out when Iaquinta+Felder got cancelled.
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                                                                • firekillex
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                                                                  • 09-18-13
                                                                  • 6420

                                                                  #627
                                                                  Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                                  Think Andrade is a nightmare matchup for Namajunas
                                                                  agreed... rose has improved vastly since that carla esparza fight but man andrade is a BEAST , id lean andrade 65/35 in that matchup after her last few performances
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                                                                  • firekillex
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                                                                    • 09-18-13
                                                                    • 6420

                                                                    #628
                                                                    Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                                                    Despite what Thor4140 says, it was the same movement Rose used in her fight with Michelle Waterson near to the finish.


                                                                    only 25 years old , skill wise she has the most talent overall , kind of reminds me of a womans tony ferguson ... but andrade is such an animal with the takedowns and brute strength itll be a tough matchup
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                                                                    • Thrilla
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                                                                      • 03-10-15
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                                                                      #629
                                                                      <a href='https://postimg.org/image/bmm9a6qwn/' target='_blank'><img src='https://s7.postimg.org/x919r7ph7/khabib_and_eagle_1.jpg' border='0' alt='khabib_and_eagle_1'/></a><br /><a href='https://postimages.org/'>image upload no limit</a><br />
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                                                                      • Thor4140
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                                                                        • 02-09-08
                                                                        • 22296

                                                                        #630
                                                                        Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                                                        Despite what Thor4140 says, it was the same movement Rose used in her fight with Michelle Waterson near to the finish.


                                                                        I’m not to sure where u are even going with this. I guess u are saying there was no improvement lol.
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