The Ultimate Fighter Finale: Johnson vs. Gaethje (July 07, 2017)

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  • PaperTrail07
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    • 08-29-08
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    #71
    Fortuna has skills and IMO looked better at weigh ins....prob all there is too it......Only way he loses is by decision IMO....hope ref stand t up and his stand up gaem will take over...
    Originally posted by Shagdogy
    I'm already heavy on Jordan Johnson. I think his wrestling and Fortuna's lack of TDD or sub game from bottom against Johnson who has never been stopped is a bad matchup. Money keeps coming in on Fortuna though. What am I missing?
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    • PaperTrail07
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      • 08-29-08
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      #72
      This will easily be Johnson's toughest fight to date...Might even take a flier at HUGE ODDS.....Fortuna by KO or sub is both over +600......JJ is not unbeatable inside the distance...
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      • JIBBBY
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        • 12-10-09
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        #73
        Can alert!!! Fade Maynard and by KO... No Asian fade here for me ...http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Teruto-Ishihara-78898

        $50.00 $72.50 Pending 7/7/17 6:30pm MMA Props Fighting 2021 Ishihara wins in round 1 +145* vs Any other result
        $150.00 $103.40 Pending 7/7/17 6:30pm MMA Props Fighting 2033 Ishihara wins by TKO/KO -145* vs Any other result


        UFC Fight Pass Early Prelims



        Gray
        Maynard
        vs
        Teruto
        Ishihara
        "Yashabo"

        UNITED STATES
        Country
        JAPAN

        13-7-1, 1NC
        Record
        10-3-2

        15%
        KO/TKO
        80%

        0%
        SUB
        0%

        85%
        DEC
        40%

        68 in
        Height
        67 in

        145 lbs
        Weight
        145 lbs

        70 in
        Reach
        69 in

        39 in
        Leg Reach
        37 in
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        • PaperTrail07
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          • 08-29-08
          • 20423

          #74
          Be careful here Jibbers.....GM might go lay and pray on us here...
          Originally posted by JIBBBY
          Can alert!!! Fade Maynard and by KO... No Asian fade here for me ...http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Teruto-Ishihara-78898

          $50.00 $72.50 Pending 7/7/17 6:30pm MMA Props Fighting 2021 Ishihara wins in round 1 +145* vs Any other result
          $150.00 $103.40 Pending 7/7/17 6:30pm MMA Props Fighting 2033 Ishihara wins by TKO/KO -145* vs Any other result


          UFC Fight Pass Early Prelims



          Gray
          Maynard
          vs
          Teruto
          Ishihara
          "Yashabo"

          UNITED STATES
          Country
          JAPAN

          13-7-1, 1NC
          Record
          10-3-2

          15%
          KO/TKO
          80%

          0%
          SUB
          0%

          85%
          DEC
          40%

          68 in
          Height
          67 in

          145 lbs
          Weight
          145 lbs

          70 in
          Reach
          69 in

          39 in
          Leg Reach
          37 in
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          • PaperTrail07
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            • 08-29-08
            • 20423

            #75
            Love Ishi.....but I think your expecting a tad much from him...
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            • JIBBBY
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              #76
              Originally posted by PaperTrail07
              Love Ishi.....but I think your expecting a tad much from him...
              Nope, Maynard is washed up, doesn't use his wrestling in fights anymore, thinks he's still the bully.. It would be smart for him to use his wrestling and take this to decision but I'm not convinced his chin will hold up when the fight is standing..

              Maynard did squeeze out decision win in his fight before last against Bruno.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Gray-Maynard-15835

              Ya talked me into the hedge.. Can't always trust Asians as you well know... Errrr!!! Just a little insurance for 25 bucks... Risking alot to win a little now with this fight, didn't really want to do this but I will...

              $25.00 $101.25 Pending 7/7/17 6:30pm MMA Props Fighting 2007 Maynard wins by 3 round decision +405* vs Not Maynard by 3 round decision
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              • JIBBBY
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                #77
                Still a little rattled on trying to pick an avenue for either fighter.. HOW ARE YOU GUYS PLAYING THIS????

                Both fighters are a bit hit and miss lately... CB probably the call though but he could win by decision or ITD is my thinking perhaps?..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/CB-Dollaway-22350

                TUF 25 - Light Heavyweight 3 rounds - T-Mobile Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - FS1
                Fri 7/7 1801 Ed Herman +155 o1½ -175
                7:30PM 1802 C.B. Dollaway -175 u1½ +155


                Ed
                Herman
                "Short Fuse"
                vs
                CB
                Dollaway
                "The Doberman"

                UNITED STATES
                Country
                USA

                24-12-0, 1NC
                Record
                16-9-0

                25%
                KO/TKO
                38%

                58%
                SUB
                19%

                17%
                DEC
                44%

                73 in
                Height
                74 in

                205 lbs
                Weight
                205 lbs

                77 in
                Reach
                76 in

                42 in
                Leg Reach
                42 in
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                • PaperTrail07
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                  • 08-29-08
                  • 20423

                  #78
                  Playing Herman at +$$....can on can take the bigger $
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                  • Hugo de Naranja
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                    • 04-14-16
                    • 14140

                    #79
                    "Can alert." Love it!
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                    • Shagdogy
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                      • 06-16-10
                      • 3564

                      #80
                      Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                      Fortuna has skills and IMO looked better at weigh ins....prob all there is too it......Only way he loses is by decision IMO....hope ref stand t up and his stand up gaem will take over...
                      So bet Fortuna hoping the ref saves him and gets him on his feet often enough that he can win with his striking? That's exactly why I bet Johnson. He doesn't need the ref to help him get the fight to his wheelhouse.

                      Also, Fortuna's stand up game really only looked good vs Hamilton. Prior to that he looked very basic on the feet. Hoping I'm not wrong here, but I admit this line movement has me nervous.
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                      • JIBBBY
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                        • 12-10-09
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                        #81
                        Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                        Playing Herman at +$$....can on can take the bigger $
                        I'm going small on CB, both are suspect and anything can happen when your flirting with can status though ...

                        I still think CB will be a little more active.. Probably win by decision or get KO'd..

                        Playing it CB by dec hedged Short fuse ITD....
                        Last edited by JIBBBY; 07-07-17, 01:32 PM.
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                        • Hugo de Naranja
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                          #82
                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                          I'm going small on CB, both are suspect and anything can happen when your flirting with can status though ...

                          I still think CB will be a little more active.. Probably win by decision or get KO'd..

                          Playing it CB by dec hedged Short fuse ITD....
                          I think that's a good way to play this can-on-can violence
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                          • JIBBBY
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                            #83
                            Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                            Went big on Aspen Ladd at (-135). 5.4u to win 4u. Think she wrecks 1-4-1NC Jessica Eye
                            Ladd by decision for me.. Small stuff...

                            GL hugo..
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                            • pabonaparte
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                              #84
                              Originally posted by turbozed
                              Also surprised that Tavares is the dog here. Theodorou never looks too impressive with his best win against a very flatfooted and lazy Alvey. He was gifted a decision in Canada against Mutante. His striking style doesn't seem like it will work against a guy like Tavares who has fast hands and good kicks. I don't see him taking Tavares down consistently, or holding Tavares down even if he does get a takedown. Tavares has the boxing and power advantage.

                              I think people's opinions of Tavares have been influenced by recent KO losses but Theodorou is no Whittaker or Boetsch when it comes to power. Theodorou also has his popularity going for him. Bottom line is Tavares is undervalued and Theodorou is overvalued. +140 seems like a pretty decent price.
                              +140 ???
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                              • JIBBBY
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                                #85
                                Man I hate watching Elias fight, but he might just out work Brad barely to a decision win.. Little hung up on this fight still.. Brad could win this though as Elias kinda sucks. Someone wins this by decision one way or the other most likely..

                                .http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Elias-Theodorou-81765

                                TUF 25 - Middleweight 3 rounds - T-Mobile Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - FS1
                                Fri 7/7 1401 Brad Tavares -105 o2½ -420
                                9:30PM 1402 Elias Theodorou -115 u2½ +335
                                FS1 Main Card



                                Brad
                                Tavares
                                vs
                                Elias
                                Theodorou
                                "The Spartan"

                                UNITED STATES
                                Country
                                CANADA

                                14-4-0
                                Record
                                14-1-0

                                29%
                                KO/TKO
                                43%

                                14%
                                SUB
                                7%

                                57%
                                DEC
                                43%

                                73 in
                                Height
                                73 in

                                185 lbs
                                Weight
                                185 lbs

                                74 in
                                Reach
                                75 in

                                43 in
                                Leg Reach
                                40 in
                                Last edited by JIBBBY; 07-07-17, 01:50 PM.
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                                • JIBBBY
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                                  • 12-10-09
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                                  #86
                                  Playing this card more conservative then usual as many of these fights are really a coin toss in my mind and could go either way.. Alot of hedging for me this go around.

                                  1) Torres by dec
                                  2) Ish by KO/rnd 1 finish/ hedged small with Maynard by dec
                                  3) Ladd by dec small
                                  4) CB by dec/ hedged Herman ITD for ins only
                                  5) Kruase ITD
                                  6) Hill by KO
                                  7) Jordan Johnson Straight, Fortura ITD hedged for ins only..
                                  8) Elias by dec/ hedged Brad by dec insurance only.
                                  9) Roehick straight/ hedged with Cannonier by Dec (small stuff)
                                  10) Diakes by KO/Hedged with Klose straight
                                  11) Deigo Lima straight/Hedge Taylor by dec (ins only)
                                  12) MJ by KO

                                  GL gents!!!!
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                                  • turbozed
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                                    • 10-15-08
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                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by pabonaparte
                                    +140 ???
                                    Tavares was +140 when I posted that. Back to even now, which makes more sense. Still think Tavares should win this one, and should be like a -150 favorite.
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                                    • Shagdogy
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                                      • 06-16-10
                                      • 3564

                                      #88
                                      Hopping on a flight to Vegas here soon. Prob won't post much this weekend. Here's tonight:

                                      J. Johnson 3u, -200
                                      M. Johnson 3u, -160
                                      Johnson/Gaethje o1.5, 1.8u, -180
                                      Tavares 1u, -113
                                      Taylor by dec 1u, +100

                                      That's all for record keeping. Have a lot more waiting for me in Vegas. A few lotto ticket parlays that I'll brag about if I win and deny ever happened if they don't 😜

                                      Good luck everyone!
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                                      • Hugo de Naranja
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                                        • 04-14-16
                                        • 14140

                                        #89
                                        UFC Ultimate Fighter 25 Finale: Johnson vs. Gaethje Picks:
                                        Tecia Torres Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
                                        Teruto Ishihara Round 1 KO (Punches)
                                        Aspen Ladd Unanimous Decision (30-27, 29-28 x2)
                                        Ed Herman Round 2 TKO (Knee and Punches)
                                        James Krause Round 1 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
                                        Angela Hill Unanimous Decision (30-27, 29-28 x2)
                                        Jordan Johnson Unanimous Decision (30-27 x2, 30-26)
                                        Brad Tavares Unanimous Decision (30-27, 29-28 x2)
                                        Jared Cannonier Round 1 TKO (Punches)
                                        Marc Diakiese Round 1 TKO (Punches)
                                        Diego Lima Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
                                        Michael Johnson Unanimous Decision (49-46 x2, 48-47)
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                                        • Hugo de Naranja
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                                          • 04-14-16
                                          • 14140

                                          #90
                                          UFC Ultimate Fighter 25 Finale: Johnson vs. Gaethje

                                          Fight Pass Prelims:

                                          Fight #1: Torres vs. Lima
                                          Torres -3.5 (-115) 1.15u to win 1u

                                          Fight #2: Ishihara vs. Maynard
                                          Parlays

                                          Fox Sports 1 Prelims:

                                          Fight #3: Ladd vs. Eye
                                          Ladd (-135) 5.4u to win 4u

                                          Fight #4: Dollaway vs. Herman
                                          Herman (+160) .5u
                                          Herman KO/TKO (+430) .5u

                                          Fight #5: Krause vs. Gallicchio
                                          No Bet

                                          Fight #6: Hill vs. Yoder
                                          Hill+Yoder Under 2.5 (+195) 1u

                                          Main Card:

                                          Fight #7: Johnson vs. Fortuna
                                          Johnson Decision (+110) 1u
                                          Johnson -3.5 (+165) 1u
                                          Johnson Submission (+795) .25u

                                          Fight #8: Theodorou vs. Tavares
                                          Tavares Decision (+179) 1u

                                          Fight #9: Cannonier vs. Roehrick (DEBUT)
                                          No Bet

                                          Fight #10: Diakiese vs. Klose
                                          Diakiese -3.5 (+155) 1u

                                          Fight #11: Taylor vs. Lima
                                          Lima (+175) 1u

                                          Fight #12: Johnson vs. Gaethje (DEBUT)
                                          Johnson (-110) 2.2u to win 2u
                                          Johnson Decision (+615) .5u

                                          Hedge:
                                          Gaethje ITD (+220) .5u

                                          Straight Parlays:
                                          Lima+Torres Over 2.5/Theodorou+Tavares Over 2.5 (-104) 2u to win 1.93u
                                          J. Johnson/Diakiese (+101) 2u
                                          Lima+Torres Over 2.5/Ishihara ITD (+128) 1u

                                          Prop Parlays:
                                          J. Johnson Decision/Cannonier ITD/Tavares (+595) .5u
                                          Torres Decision/Ishihara ITD/Eye Decision (+665) .25u
                                          Diakiese ITD/Taylor Decision/M. Johnson (+722) .25u
                                          Herman/Krause+Gallicchio U2.5/Hill+Yoder U2.5 (+1232) .25u

                                          Full Card Props:
                                          Over 7.5 Fights Go Distance (+321) .75u
                                          Over 8.5 Fights Go Distance (+926) .5u
                                          Over 9.5 Fights Go Distance (+3075) .25u

                                          Multi-Event Parlays:
                                          Lewis+Hunt WGD/Ishihara KO (+144) 2u
                                          Last edited by Hugo de Naranja; 07-07-17, 05:11 PM.
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                                          • Hugo de Naranja
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                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by Shagdogy
                                            Hopping on a flight to Vegas here soon. Prob won't post much this weekend. Here's tonight:

                                            J. Johnson 3u, -200
                                            M. Johnson 3u, -160
                                            Johnson/Gaethje o1.5, 1.8u, -180
                                            Tavares 1u, -113
                                            Taylor by dec 1u, +100

                                            That's all for record keeping. Have a lot more waiting for me in Vegas. A few lotto ticket parlays that I'll brag about if I win and deny ever happened if they don't 

                                            Good luck everyone!
                                            I'm on a lot of the same stuff. Let's get it! Go Johnsons!
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                                            • GoBlue77
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                                              #92
                                              JESSICA EYE fight is off, she just posted on instagram
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                                              • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by GoBlue77
                                                JESSICA EYE fight is off, she just posted on instagram
                                                Damn. Ladd was my biggest bet of the card. I wonder what happened
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                                                • Demonata
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                                                  #94
                                                  penetrate you Jessica eye.
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                                                  • GoBlue77
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                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                    Damn. Ladd was my biggest bet of the card. I wonder what happened
                                                    i don't think that was wise of you at all. don't ever bet against someone on the verge/threat of getting cut, my record using this angle is damn near perfect. plus she's a local girl, I've crossed paths with her a few times. she wasn't going to lose this fight imo. aspen pulling out prob just saved your ass
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                                                    • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by GoBlue77
                                                      i don't think that was wise of you at all. don't ever bet against someone on the verge/threat of getting cut, my record using this angle is damn near perfect. plus she's a local girl, I've crossed paths with her a few times. she wasn't going to lose this fight imo. aspen pulling out prob just saved your ass
                                                      Ok buddy
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                                                      • JIBBBY
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                                                        • 12-10-09
                                                        • 83686

                                                        #97
                                                        Ladd fight I could careless .... Wasn't sold on Ladd but did like her by decision for small....

                                                        $50.00 $75.00 Cancelled 7/7/17 7:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1911 Ladd wins by 3 round decision +150* vs Not Ladd by 3 round decision
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                                                        • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                          • 04-14-16
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                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                          Ladd fight I could careless .... Wasn't sold on Ladd but did like her by decision for small....

                                                          $50.00 $75.00 Cancelled 7/7/17 7:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1911 Ladd wins by 3 round decision +150* vs Not Ladd by 3 round decision
                                                          Eye has always struggled with wrestlers and Ladd has an excellent ground game. Hopefully they'll rebook it. Best of luck tonight Jibbs!
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                                                          • Kermit
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                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                            Damn. Ladd was my biggest bet of the card. I wonder what happened
                                                            She said she was sick and at the ER.
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                                                            • Demonata
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                                                              #100
                                                              How's isihara doing
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                                                              • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                                • 04-14-16
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                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by Demonata
                                                                How's isihara doing
                                                                Bad. Got wrestle-****** all of R1
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                                                                • THE_LOCKSMITH
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                                                                  #102
                                                                  Maynard has a tramp stamp
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                                                                  • Wohlford
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                                                                    #103
                                                                    Ishihara might as well be fighting Khabib! lol
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                                                                    • PaperTrail07
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                                                                      • 08-29-08
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                                                                      #104
                                                                      Maynard BABY LOL...this thing is OVER.....nice start to the card...
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                                                                      • PaperTrail07
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                                                                        #105
                                                                        This should have been BIGDAYS MMA POUND play lmfao
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