UFC Fight Night: Cowboy vs. Oliveira (February 21, 2016)

**JIBBBY** · 02-15-16, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

Dengue feber can be a quite serious illness as well, what are the odds

I thought he was training at American Top Team leading up.. He must have been in Brazil training and got bit... Brazil is becoming a disease riddled Country..

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**Beelzebubzy** · 02-15-16, 06:23 PM

Better Call Saul tonight!!!!

**yisman** · 02-15-16, 06:41 PM

no replacement announced yet

**TPowell** · 02-15-16, 06:45 PM

Sucks but still a decent size card

**JIBBBY** · 02-16-16, 08:48 PM

Event write ups coming in now - Good basic information in the reads.. More to come...

MMA MANIA Part 1 - http://www.mmamania.com/2016/2/15/10...pittsburgh-mma

Combat Press - http://combatpress.com/2016/02/toe-t...d-predictions/

Fansided - http://fansided.com/2016/02/16/ufc-f...w-predictions/

**PaperTrail07** · 02-17-16, 12:05 PM

Agusto Mendes the fill in ......random 5-0 out of Brazil...

**Killer_Demo** · 02-17-16, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

I Brazil is becoming a disease riddled Country..

Brazil women got that ass/body tho, they can ride the stick good

**CaptChaos145** · 02-17-16, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Cowboy Cerrone has most of his success against the shorter fighters lately.. He struggles with the taller guys and Alex Oli is a tall guy with reach and size..

Punches from AO that connect aren't gonna be peppering like Nate Diaz in this gif below..

If only Donald Cerrone learned to tuck that chin of his I'd probably pass on this fight.. He fights too erect via his KB and MT styles..

Nate won this fight by unanimous decision below in the gif just for the record in a 3 rounder...

Another fact - neither fighter has gone past 3 rounds in many many years, AO never.. Something to think about in this 5 rounder..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Donald-Cerrone-15105

Current odds -

<small>UFC Fight Night 83 - Welterweight 5 rounds - Consol Energy Center - Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania - FS1</small>
Sun 2/21	1001 Alex Oliveira	<input id="editx" name="M1_0" size="4"> +240	<input id="editx" name="L1_0" size="4"> o2½ -115
11:30PM	1002 Donald Cerrone	<input id="editx" name="M2_0" size="4"> -280	<input id="editx" name="L2_0" size="4"> u2½ -105

Cerrone's style played right into Nate's strength. Nate will beat almost anyone if you stand right in front of him, don't kick, and trade punches. A better game plan from Cerrone and he would have won that fight imo.

**CaptChaos145** · 02-17-16, 02:07 PM

Anthony Smith is the late replacement for Trevor Smith. You can get Anthony as low as -135. Jump on it. Anthony has been destroying guys lately. He has a ton of fights for a 27 year old. The guy has a ton of potential and I think he's finally mature enough now to handle it.

Sarafian is another very good play. He's under -200 now. His opponent, Bamgbose, is an inexperienced striker that has little cage experience and can only win with a 1 shot KO. Sarafian is the more polished fighter by far.

Jonavin Webb is another sleeper. He has very very good BJJ and Coy has poor standup and relies heavily on his wresting. IF he takes Webb down or Webb takes him down Coy will get subbed. Webb lost a split to Kyle Noke so that should tell you how good this kid is. Coy is aging at 37 years old and his best mma days are behind him. Web is young, trains with Cowboy, is hungry, and wants to win bad!!!

**CaptChaos145** · 02-17-16, 02:08 PM

Oh and I'm loving Marion Reneau too!

**PaperTrail07** · 02-17-16, 03:00 PM

Like Webb as well.....NOKE was a friend of his too....as a first fight in UFC that can never be easy....he should take this IMO...

Originally posted by CaptChaos145

Anthony Smith is the late replacement for Trevor Smith. You can get Anthony as low as -135. Jump on it. Anthony has been destroying guys lately. He has a ton of fights for a 27 year old. The guy has a ton of potential and I think he's finally mature enough now to handle it.

Sarafian is another very good play. He's under -200 now. His opponent, Bamgbose, is an inexperienced striker that has little cage experience and can only win with a 1 shot KO. Sarafian is the more polished fighter by far.

Jonavin Webb is another sleeper. He has very very good BJJ and Coy has poor standup and relies heavily on his wresting. IF he takes Webb down or Webb takes him down Coy will get subbed. Webb lost a split to Kyle Noke so that should tell you how good this kid is. Coy is aging at 37 years old and his best mma days are behind him. Web is young, trains with Cowboy, is hungry, and wants to win bad!!!

**JoshKnows46** · 02-17-16, 04:39 PM

Final card:
Only have cerrone sub and cerrone round 2 left to add.

Parlay
Cerrone -280
Gabarant -330
Risking $1000

Parlay:
Cerrone -280
Leonardo Augusto Guimaraes +150/+130
Risking $1000

Parlay*
Cerrone -270
Mcgregor inside the distance -116
Risking $500

Murphy -330 Risking $1000

Cerrone inside the distance -145/-160 risking $500

Donald Cerrone -200/-245/-255/-270 Risking $3000

Parlay:
Donald Cerrone -270/-265
Derek Brunson -350/-335
Risking $3000*

**JIBBBY** · 02-17-16, 05:03 PM

^ If Cerrone loses then you lose everything Joshy.. Way to diversify those bets and not put all your eggs in one basket...

For your sake I really hope Donald Cerrone wins this fight now but he won't..

Alex Oliviera has never been punked standing in fights. Only way he loses this fight is by submission.. If Donald Cerrone ain't shooting in for those doubles in that first round you better hit up that AO live betting action quickly after..

Alex Oliviera fights extremely well standing if he doesn't have to worry about the take downs just put it that way..

**JoshKnows46** · 02-17-16, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

^ If Cerrone loses then you lose everything Joshy.. Way to diversify those bets and not put all your eggs in one basket...

For your sake I really hope Donald Cerrone wins this fight now but he won't..

Alex Oliviera has never been punked standing in fights. Only way he loses this fight is by submission.. If Donald Cerrone ain't shooting in for those doubles in that first round you better hit up that AO live betting action quickly after..

Alex Oliviera fights extremely well standing if he doesn't have to worry about the take downs just put it that way..

You forget I won 18 thousand with in a two day span a couple weeks ago, and 7 thousand acouple weeks before that and 8 thousand a couple weeks before that..i got how much I want on the man, doesnt matter how I chose to bet the 8500 on the man. Worry about your self winning a bet, for me and those that follow me according to there unit size, a 28 unit bet is no sweat off our back win or lose, we are playing with house money.... for you, you need to win back the money you borrowed from your mother, so worry about you, we good over here,we eating over here....and no, sub is most likely, but cerrone could easily ko or dec this bum, your guy has no path to victory.i know what I'm doing, that's why I'm JoshKnows and your jibbers.

**JoshKnows46** · 02-17-16, 06:32 PM

Cerrone wins by sub +250
Cerrone wins in round 2 +450
Risking 100 each

**TPowell** · 02-17-16, 07:00 PM

Safe to say that outside of Cerrone and Brunson, you don't see much on this card? I would fade Bermudez if I were you with the thinking its a 50-50 fight. I disagree with that though

**JIBBBY** · 02-17-16, 07:52 PM

Originally posted by JoshKnows46

Cerrone wins by sub +250
Cerrone wins in round 2 +450
Risking 100 each

Cerrone by Submission at +250 is your only smart play I believe in this fight.. That's actually my hedge play... Still doubt that lands but it's nice insurance against the AO straight... Win money both ways..

<small>UFC Fight Night 83 - Welterweight 5 rounds - Consol Energy Center - Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania - FS1</small>
Sun 2/21	1001 Alex Oliveira	<input id="radiox" value="M1_0" name="radiox" type="radio">+250	<input id="radiox" value="L1_0" name="radiox" type="radio">o2½ -105
11:30PM	1002 Donald Cerrone	<input id="radiox" value="M2_0" name="radiox" type="radio">-300	<input id="radiox" value="L2_0" name="radiox" type="radio">u2½ -115

**JoshKnows46** · 02-17-16, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Cerrone by Submission at +250 is your only smart play I believe in this fight.. That's actually my hedge play... Still doubt that lands but it's nice insurance against the AO straight... Win money both ways..

<small>UFC Fight Night 83 - Welterweight 5 rounds - Consol Energy Center - Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania - FS1</small>
Sun 2/21	1001 Alex Oliveira	<input id="radiox" value="M1_0" name="radiox" type="radio">+250	<input id="radiox" value="L1_0" name="radiox" type="radio">o2½ -105
11:30PM	1002 Donald Cerrone	<input id="radiox" value="M2_0" name="radiox" type="radio">-300	<input id="radiox" value="L2_0" name="radiox" type="radio">u2½ -115

No your risking 200 to win 150, your turning your AO bet into even money, if it wasn't already terrible enough, and if both lose, which is very possible since AO has horrible striking defense, and you even said yourself cerrone has the better striking, and wrestling, meaning you know AO loses a dec, so very likely you lose both bets.

**JoshKnows46** · 02-17-16, 08:07 PM

And to say it's my smartest bet is absolute stupid, picking a side will always be easier then picking a side plus a path to victory numbnuts

**JIBBBY** · 02-17-16, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by JoshKnows46

No your risking 200 to win 150, your turning your AO bet into even money, if it wasn't already terrible enough, and if both lose, which is very possible since AO has horrible striking defense, and you even said yourself cerrone has the better striking, and wrestling, meaning you know AO loses a dec, so very likely you lose both bets.

Simple math son and you are correct -

$100 to win $250 AO straight

$100 to win $250 Cerrone by Sub

$200 to win $150 either way it goes is the math only if you are betting $100 on each which I'm not.. I bet a bit more then just a $100 each way and I also stand to win a little bit more in general with a AO straight win, all while significantly reduced risk no matter which way the fight goes... It's called bank roll protection..

I also have props with AO ITD and a couple others.. I'll be rooting for AO to win don't worry...

The sub hedge - Cowboy Cerrone has 15 subs in 28 wins..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Donald-Cerrone-15105

AO doesn't get KO'd in fights and only loses fights by submission.. If he goes to decision he usually picks up the wins also.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Alex-Oliveira-110143

My straight AO play and Cerrone Sub prop hedge are very solid plays to win money period. That's the name of the game (gambling 101)

Josh you should consider playing AO ITD at +445 as a hedge for your bets.. (5 round fight) Just trying to help ya out.. No need to get greedy and lose everything.... I hit it a week ago at +425 but the odds improved.

$100.00

$425.00

Pending

2/21/16 11:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1005 Oliveira wins inside distance +425* vs Not Oliveira inside distance

**JoshKnows46** · 02-17-16, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Simple math son and you are correct -

$100 to win $250 AO straight

$100 to win $250 Cerrone by Sub

$200 to win $150 either way it goes is the math only if you are betting $100 on each which I'm not.. I bet a bit more then just a $100 each way and I also stand to win a little bit more in general with a AO straight win, all while significantly reduced risk no matter which way the fight goes... It's called bank roll protection..

I also have props with AO ITD and a couple others.. I'll be rooting for AO to win don't worry...

The sub hedge - Cowboy Cerrone has 15 subs in 28 wins..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Donald-Cerrone-15105

AO doesn't get KO'd in fights and only loses fights by submission.. If he goes to decision he usually picks up the wins also.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Alex-Oliveira-110143

My straight AO play and Cerrone Sub prop hedge are very solid plays to win money period. That's the name of the game (gambling 101)

Josh you should consider playing AO ITD at +445 as a hedge for your bets.. (5 round fight) Just trying to help ya out.. No need to get greedy and lose everything.... I hit it a week ago at +425 but the odds improved.

$100.00

$425.00

Pending

2/21/16 11:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1005 Oliveira wins inside distance +425* vs Not Oliveira inside distance

Jibby AO hasn't fought this caliber of striker, if he had, he'd have been knocked out before, I know all the stats, I don't need to tell me what they are. Huge step up for the counterfeit cowboy. In this matchup, AO can lose 3 diffrent ways, cerrone can lose 0 ways. AO doesn't even have a punches chance, because like I've already told you, he doesn't throw body kicks and cerrone has one of the best chins in the lightweight division, AO striking game is very predictable and he won't land on cerrone with any consistently to even think he'd get close to even wobbling cerrone much less knocking him out, very likely you lose both those bets, hope you hit sub prop however, so u don't have to sell the rest of your mom's food stamps. Cerrone is a 100 percent lock..

**JoshKnows46** · 02-17-16, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Simple math son and you are correct -

$100 to win $250 AO straight

$100 to win $250 Cerrone by Sub

$200 to win $150 either way it goes is the math only if you are betting $100 on each which I'm not.. I bet a bit more then just a $100 each way and I also stand to win a little bit more in general with a AO straight win, all while significantly reduced risk no matter which way the fight goes... It's called bank roll protection..

I also have props with AO ITD and a couple others.. I'll be rooting for AO to win don't worry...

The sub hedge - Cowboy Cerrone has 15 subs in 28 wins..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Donald-Cerrone-15105

AO doesn't get KO'd in fights and only loses fights by submission.. If he goes to decision he usually picks up the wins also.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Alex-Oliveira-110143

My straight AO play and Cerrone Sub prop hedge are very solid plays to win money period. That's the name of the game (gambling 101)

Josh you should consider playing AO ITD at +445 as a hedge for your bets.. (5 round fight) Just trying to help ya out.. No need to get greedy and lose everything.... I hit it a week ago at +425 but the odds improved.

$100.00

$425.00

Pending

2/21/16 11:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1005 Oliveira wins inside distance +425* vs Not Oliveira inside distance

Jibby AO hasn't fought this caliber of striker, if he had, he'd have been knocked out before, I know all the stats, I don't need u to tell me what they are. In this matchup, AO can lose 3 diffrent ways, cerrone can lose 0 ways. AO doesn't even have a punches chance, because like I've already told you, he doesn't throw body kicks and cerrone has one of the best chins in the lightweight division, AO striking game is very predictable and he won't land on cerrone with any consistently to even think he'd get close to even wobbling cerrone much less knocking him out, very likely you lose both those bets, hope you hit sub prop however, so u don't have to sell the rest of your mom's food stamps. Cerrone is a 100 percent lock, all of my parlays are half way complete, zero reason to hedge a winner, you forget that I know, and you guess at this...

**JIBBBY** · 02-17-16, 09:58 PM

Cowboy Cerrone is coming up in weight to 170 for this fight and I have a feeling he will be at a huge size, strength and punching power disadvantage.. AO was massive at 155.. He'll be huge at 170... Cowboy Cerrone will probably walk in the cage at 175 and AO at 185 or 190 after hydrating..

Cowboy Cerrone will get bullied and muscled in this fight and taste the punching power when trading.. Down goes Frazier!!! This fight does not go 5 rounds at the higher weight...

COMBAT PRESS copy and paste -

Donald “Cowboy” Cerrone is fresh off a lightweight title loss to Rafael dos Anjos in December. Cerrone is making the move up to 170 pounds for the first time in his UFC career in the main event of UFC Fight Night 83, and he’ll take on fellow “Cowboy” and rising welterweight Alex Oliveira in the featured bout of the evening. Always one to put on a show, Cerrone is looking to make a name for himself in his new division. He’ll have a fun opponent in Oliviera, who is riding a three-fight winning streak while picking up a couple of impressive stoppage wins along the way.

**bjpenn85** · 02-17-16, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Cowboy Cerrone is coming up in weight to 170 for this fight and I have a feeling he will be at a huge size, strength and punching power disadvantage.. AO was massive at 155.. He'll be huge at 170... Cowboy Cerrone will probably walk in the cage at 175 and AO at 185 or 190 after hydrating..

Cowboy Cerrone will get bullied and muscled in this fight and taste the punching power when trading.. Down goes Frazier!!!

COMBAT PRESS copy and paste -

Donald “Cowboy” Cerrone is fresh off a lightweight title loss to Rafael dos Anjos in December. Cerrone is making the move up to 170 pounds for the first time in his UFC career in the main event of UFC Fight Night 83, and he’ll take on fellow “Cowboy” and rising welterweight Alex Oliveira in the featured bout of the evening. Always one to put on a show, Cerrone is looking to make a name for himself in his new division. He’ll have a fun opponent in Oliviera, who is riding a three-fight winning streak while picking up a couple of impressive stoppage wins along the way.

Size isnt everything though. I mean hallman was bullied quite a bit , but so easily won those scrambles on the ground. Were talking black belt vs white belt. I dont think size can ever negate such a huge skill disparity. I rolled around with people 14 years of age and although being twice the size its amazing how lost you are when someone know exactly what to do at all times.

You could say the same thing, look at neil magny hes huuuuuuge. But jibby, how much did demian maia actually care about that?

(Dont tell me cerrone isnt demian maia, you do understand logic and the point of the argument!!)

AO wont win a decision....right? or sub most likely right? So why bet him straight? Do to size ? Common, its like youre just undoing your whole years of experience with mma and start from baseline every weekend. Absurd...

**JIBBBY** · 02-17-16, 10:34 PM

^^ AO isn't a white belt, he's Brazilian and trains with Brazilian Black belts and he has sub wins on his record.. Dude is not lost on the ground.. Cowboy Cerrone hasn't wrestled anyone or went for subs in years.. Cowboy Cerrone has been a stand up based fighter only in his last 6 fights..

I'm not so sure he will shoot and take down AO in this fight, he's got pride.. That is why I think AO has a real punchers chance at 170 in this 5 rounder.. If Cowboy Cerrone fights smart and takes down AO he has a chance at the submission win..

Just that simple.....

**JoshKnows46** · 02-17-16, 10:43 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

^^ AO isn't a white belt, he's Brazilian and trains with Brazilian Black belts and he has sub wins on his record.. Dude is not lost on the ground.. Cowboy Cerrone hasn't wrestled anyone or went for subs in years.. Cowboy Cerrone has been a stand up based fighter only in his last 6 fights..

I'm not so sure he will shoot and take down AO in this fight, he's got pride.. That is why I think AO has a real punchers chance at 170 in this 5 rounder.. If Cowboy Cerrone fights smart and takes down AO he has a chance at the submission win..

Just that simple.....

His point is if you know AO can't win by sub or dec, what the fuk are you doing betting him straight, if he only has a punchers chance, as u put it lmao why didn't u just bet the ko prop...

**bjpenn85** · 02-17-16, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

^^ AO isn't a white belt, he's Brazilian and trains with Brazilian Black belts and he has sub wins on his record.. Dude is not lost on the ground.. Cowboy Cerrone hasn't wrestled anyone or went for subs in years.. Cowboy Cerrone has been a stand up based fighter only in his last 6 fights..

I'm not so sure he will shoot and take down AO in this fight, he's got pride.. That is why I think AO has a real punchers chance at 170 in this 5 rounder.. If Cowboy Cerrone fights smart and takes down AO he has a chance at the submission win..

Just that simple.....

Based on youre belief, yes, based on reality, no. What happened in the Myles jury fight was a fakkin grappling fakkfest. thats 3 fights ago. Against henderson, why should cerrone try grappling? He could never significantly win, so he didnt do it. He could have taken makdessi down and submit him, but no point when he was winning the standup battle. If cerrone decides to take this fight to the grown is an unknown, But AO doesnt win if it goes to the ground. He doesn win this fight by sub, so why even debate it. He doesnt win a decision either, so the argument stands, why then bet him straight?

**bjpenn85** · 02-17-16, 10:49 PM

ground

**JoshKnows46** · 02-17-16, 10:51 PM

For someone with only a punchers chance as you yourself put it, shouldnt u be getting more that plus 250, sounds like u made a horrible bet, u wouldn't agree?

**JIBBBY** · 02-17-16, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by JoshKnows46

His point is if you know AO can't win by sub or dec, what the fuk are you doing betting him straight, if he only has a punchers chance, as u put it lmao why didn't u just bet the ko prop...

Well if you had watched video on AO you could have seen that he rocks people standing first and then sinks in the RN choke after on the ground.. That's why I chose the ITD prop instead for $100.. He lit up Noons standing, took the back and then choked him out on the ground remember?

AO is not afraid to try for submissions when he has an opponent rocked or reeling in fights.. He prefers the KO though.. Like I said I have AO in a few props just for the record... Way ahead of you Josh and BJPenn..

$50.00

$352.50

Pending

2/21/16 11:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1037 Oliveira wins by TKO/KO +705* vs Any other result

**JoshKnows46** · 02-17-16, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Well if you had watched video on AO you could have seen that he rocks people standing first and then sinks in the RN choke after on the ground.. That's why I chose the ITD prop instead.. He lit up Noons standing, took the back and then choked him out on the ground remember?

AO is not afraid to try for submissions when he has an opponent rocked or reeling in fights..

Lol 250 isn't itd number, that's the straight bet number, you goof

**JIBBBY** · 02-17-16, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by JoshKnows46

Lol 250 isn't itd number, that's the straight bet number, you goof

You're lost, read my posts carefully... I took the straight when the props weren't out yet, I took ITD when the KO prop wasn't out and when I also thought AO can win several ways potentially, I took the KO prop for small when that just came out.. Do I need to explain every move I make to you? Just play your parlays and straights at 3-1 odds with Cowboy Cerrone and good luck with all that....

Like I said for your sake I hope your Cowboy Cerrone bets hit.. Odds are way off in this fight and you should get raped in this event because of your lack of diversity in your betting schemes...

You have much to learn yet... You're a hot shot and can pick them lately but you think you will win every bet and that will be your down fall in the future.. I predict you'll start hedging like I do in about a year if you don't go broke first... I've been where you are at now...

**Unwritten Law** · 02-17-16, 11:44 PM

The Best play will be The Crusher Kawajiri.

**JoshKnows46** · 02-17-16, 11:52 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

You're lost, read my posts carefully... I took the straight when the props weren't out yet, I took ITD when the KO prop wasn't out and when I also thought AO can win several ways potentially, I took the KO prop for small when that just came out.. Do I need to explain every move I make to you? Just play your parlays and straights at 3-1 odds with Cowboy Cerrone and good luck with all that....

Like I said for your sake I hope your Cowboy Cerrone bets hit.. Odds are way off in this fight and you should get raped in this event because of your lack of diversity in your betting schemes...

You have much to learn yet... You're a hot shot and can pick them lately but you think you will win every bet and that will be your down fall in the future.. I predict you'll start hedging like I do in about a year if you don't go broke first... I've been where you are at now...

Hahahaha your serious aren't you...hahahaha I win 100 percent of the time on the strong leg of my parlays when I do this, cerrone bet is already cashed son. Wake up, your retarded rules of gambling don't apply to me. It would take years and years of consistent losing for them to win back all the money ive won just in the last 6 months, I'm betting so far below my bankroll right now, trust me, i very rarely come up on negative on a event, and i won't be coming up negative on a event anytime soon judging by the fight cards coming up...you pay too much attention to the number next to the fighter, instead of doing that, how bout you learn how to bet the correct fighter, worry about the matchup, worry about picking the winner. I've shown multiple times, it doesn't matter if it's plus 400 or negative 400, underdog or favorite, I don't force nothing that isn't there and I always pick the winner. You will be shown this again with this card, one day you'll learn not to bet against me, but knowing how stupid you've shown yourself to be, that still may be a few cards more, some people just can't be helped, some people can't get out their own way.

**JIBBBY** · 02-18-16, 12:10 AM

It's like playing cards with brothers kids up in this beast lately.. Throw down boy!!!!

You win 100 percent of the time so you say.. LOL.. That's why you're still giving me 2 bet points a day for a month because you win 100 percent of the time.. Funny guy...