UFC Fight Night: Bader vs. Saint Preux (August 16, 2014)

[Bumdeal]

Your write ups don't bother me, Jibby

[Ron_Paul_2012]

Enough fun and games fellas and back too the current fights on hand - There is money to be made!!!

Gray Maynard vs Fabrico Camoes -

This fight I don't even feel I need to cap, this style match up really favors Gray Maynard.. I can see Maynard finishing off the older Brazilian in this one.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Fabricio-Camoes-2427

-300 odds are crap so this will be a parlay play for me..

50 unit play on Maynard!!!!!!!

[Wilbo86]

I'm clairvoyantly wiki-predicting the main event as a win for OSP:

Loss

17-5

Ovince St. Preux

KO (slipped on banana peel on entrance to ring while high)

UFC Fight Night: Bader vs. St. Preux

August 16, 2014

Bangor, Maine, United States

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Bader

Come on Jibbey, up your game.

[JIBBBY]

I'm clairvoyantly wiki-predicting the main event as a win for OSP:

Loss

17-5

Ovince St. Preux

KO (slipped on banana peel on entrance to ring while high)

UFC Fight Night: Bader vs. St. Preux

August 16, 2014

Bangor, Maine, United States

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Bader

Come on Jibbey, up your game.

I just started looking at this card in depth today.. MY BAD!!!! Up my game indeed I must... http://mmajunkie.com/2014/08/abel-tr...s-ross-pearson

Well, don't I feel like the Jack Ass now!!!... WOW i went full retard on this thread!!!! My apologies... I deserve the beat down...

I will say this - Maynard on the ground, Ross Pearson standing in this one... Whom ever imposes their strengths first probably wins the fight... Tough fight to call actually and good fight to watch!!

[JIBBBY]

Your write ups don't bother me, Jibby

Geeez thanks Bumdeal..

[Skel]

Shawn Jordan looks like a big-ass Poirier.

[Pmoney]

Thats jibbehrish

hahahahahaha

[Wilbo86]

I just started looking at this card in depth today.. MY BAD!!!! Up my game indeed I must... http://mmajunkie.com/2014/08/abel-tr...s-ross-pearson

Well, don't I feel like the Jack Ass now!!!... WOW i went full retard on this thread!!!! My apologies... I deserve the beat down...

I will say this - Maynard on the ground, Ross Pearson standing in this one... Whom ever imposes their strengths first probably wins the fight... Tough fight to call actually and good fight to watch!!

Someone edited Ryan Bader's wiki page for no apparent reason or comic effect...

Don't worry, i like the cut of you jib.

[mirinquads]

^^^Great, another constructive post not talking about any of the fight match ups.. I honestly don't know how some of you guys pick these fights correctly if you never care to discuss them????That's being cerebral or lack there of Wilbro if you ask me....

Just trying to Monday Night Quarterback these fights and now got a target on my back just for sharing on this Event Thread. SOB!!! Rat bastards........

Trying to figure out which of these fights have the most value and chance of winning.. Throwing up the basics for now as the info continues to pour in.. Was hoping some of you guys can expand on what basics I posted up.. I guess I was hoping for too much.

Bunch of frigg'n Rummies posting right now... I will survive this!!! LOL..

Jibby, were all tailing you in here, our egos are just too big to admit it. Keep them expert breakdowns comin' son

[marzwoody]

50 unit play on Maynard!!!!!!!

Money dwn the drain son.

[JIBBBY]

Shawn Jordan looks like a big-ass Poirier.

He sure does... I gotta see this guy at the weigh ins before I put a cent down on him.. I have a feeling he's been on the crispy cream diet..

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Completing the main card is a heavyweight encounter between former NFL player Shawn Jordan (15-6) and the humongous American and former nightclub bouncer Jack May (7-1), May who standing at a wopping 6’8, is the tallest heavyweight currently competing in the UFC made his debut in April losing to Derek Lewis by way of TKO in the first round, in a fight in which he started off well in. May is a knockout artist with 6 of his 7 wins coming by way of KO an excellent kickboxer but is susceptible to the takedown, something which Jordan who is a two-time state champion in wrestling will be likely looking to exploit. Following back-to-back knockout losses to Gabriel Gonzaga and Matt Mitrione, Jordan would be wise to implement his wrestling against a guy who is known to throw heavy hands.

https://twitter.com/savageshawn/media

[latarianmilton]

i cant help but think, who has st preux koed? because with his gas tank he's not getting a decision

[Skel]

i cant help but think, who has st preux koed? because with his gas tank he's not getting a decision

He KO'ed Joe Cason in Strikeforce and easily finished Cody Donovan with ground and pound. He definitely has power. He broke Jimmo's arm with a kick and did the same to another past opponent. His gas tank looked horrible against Villante but good against Mousasi. The OSP that fought Villante would get whooped by Bader but if he shows up in shape he could pose a decent threat.

[JIBBBY]

(-290) Zack Makovski vs (+245) Jussier Formiga -

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Jussier-da-Silva-36939 Thinking possible submission upset in this bout????

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The Prelims have a few interesting match up’s as two top ten ranked flyweights meet inside the Octagon, as #9 ranked Zach Makovsky (18-4) meets #6 ranked Jussier Formiga (16-3). Formiga is coming off of a submission win over Scott Jorgensen in his last appearance inside of the Octagon in the first round, surprisingly to some. Makovsky has looked impressive since Joining the UFC, also holding a win over the aforementioned Jorgenson as well as taking a unanimous decision win over Josh Sampo in his last appearance. 3 of Makovsky’s 4 losses have come by way of submission, something which the Brazilian Jiu Jitsu black belt Formiga will be looking to capitalize on.

[Bumdeal]

(-290) Zack Makovski vs (+245) Jussier Formiga -

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Jussier-da-Silva-36939 Thinking possible submission upset in this bout????

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The Prelims have a few interesting match up’s as two top ten ranked flyweights meet inside the Octagon, as #9 ranked Zach Makovsky (18-4) meets #6 ranked Jussier Formiga (16-3). Formiga is coming off of a submission win over Scott Jorgensen in his last appearance inside of the Octagon in the first round, surprisingly to some. Makovsky has looked impressive since Joining the UFC, also holding a win over the aforementioned Jorgenson as well as taking a unanimous decision win over Josh Sampo in his last appearance. 3 of Makovsky’s 4 losses have come by way of submission, something which the Brazilian Jiu Jitsu black belt Formiga will be looking to capitalize on.

2 of those sub losses were 5-6 years ago. A fighter can change pretty substantially in 6 years. Also, the 1 sub from fairly recently was at the hands of Dantas.. that's a quality opponent.

Already have around 10 units on Makovsky straight and in various parlays. Like Nurmy, this is a fighter that just keeps paying me

[JIBBBY]

2 of those sub losses were 5-6 years ago. A fighter can change pretty substantially in 6 years. Also, the 1 sub from fairly recently was at the hands of Dantas.. that's a quality opponent.

Already have around 10 units on Makovsky straight and in various parlays. Like Nurmy, this is a fighter that just keeps paying me

Bumdeal, I don't wanna talk you out of betting on this fight or encourage you to back up those 10 units - Like you said Makovsky has looked solid in his last 4 fights and was sub'd out to very good grap fighters.. I don't argue that... Zack could win this fight by decision...

Still, I think you're under estimating or over looking this kid Formiga (16-3) just a bit.. Ranked #6 for a reason.. Formiga has a bunch of impressive UFC wins and has fought and lost to only the very best in the division to date..

Formiga just beat Scott Jorg which is no easy task, and in his last 2 defeats over the years he has only been stopped by two guys with far better striking skills then Makovsky.. (John Dodson and Joseph Benevidez).. Makovsky isn't a Knock Out artist anyways is what I'm getting at and this fairs well for Formiga....

For the value I think Formiga is the play as I think he has a legit chance to win this fight... At +250 this dog might hunt...

(1 unit straight Jussier Formiga +250) for me...

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Jussier-da-Silva-36939

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Zach-Makovsky-20522

[Ron_Paul_2012]

Money dwn the drain son.

Snicker. So how many units did you have on Fabricio Camoes?

[Bumdeal]

Bumdeal, I don't wanna talk you out of betting on this fight or encourage you to back up those 10 units - Like you said Makovsky has looked solid in his last 4 fights and was sub'd out to very good grap fighters.. I don't argue that... Zack could win this fight by decision...

Still, I think you're under estimating or over looking this kid Formiga (16-3) just a bit.. Ranked #6 for a reason.. Formiga has a bunch of impressive UFC wins and has fought and lost to only the very best in the division to date..

Formiga just beat Scott Jorg which is no easy task, and in his last 2 defeats over the years he has only been stopped by two guys with far better striking skills then Makovsky.. (John Dodson and Joseph Benevidez).. Makovsky isn't a Knock Out artist anyways is what I'm getting at and this fairs well for Formiga....

For the value I think Formiga is the play as I think he has a legit chance to win this fight... At +250 this dog might hunt...

(1 unit straight Formiga +250) for me...

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Jussier-da-Silva-36939

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Zach-Makovsky-20522

I'm with ya, just lots of details you omit when you go over these stats. Like the fact that Jorg got headbutted by Formiga and basically KO'd.

MMAMath doesn't work anyway, but still worth mentioning if you're going to point to his win over Jorgenson

[JIBBBY]

I'm with ya, just lots of details you omit when you go over these stats. Like the fact that Jorg got headbutted by Formiga and basically KO'd.

MMAMath doesn't work anyway, but still worth mentioning if you're going to point to his win over Jorgenson

I know I remember the fight very well.. Not omitting just don't want to post a short story..

Jorg did get head butted which led to the rear naked.. Still a win at this level is a win.. Maybe he can head butt Makovsky and get an arm bar or something... Lol... Proved Formiga has a hard head if anything else...

[marzwoody]

Snicker. So how many units did you have on Fabricio Camoes?

electric boogaloo

[Ron_Paul_2012]

electric boogaloo

More like white jigaboo. I knew you didn't fade my Maynard pick. Tail or fail.

I found one of your old home movies. Shame on you!

[JIBBBY]

ive watched the past few fights of zach makovsky and he does look really good, but his losses come from submission oriented fighters which would fit formigas bill.. 3 out of 4 of his losses by submission, he is a talented wrestler thats no doubt, if there wasnt so much juice id probably go with him. But at +200 ill go with formiga all day, half of his wins by sub, his only losses lately have been from benevidez and dodson which are 2 of the top 3 fighters in the division, he just beat the guy fighting for the title a few fights ago and subbed a very game jorgenson as well

At +250.....

[JIBBBY]

I see a lot I like here actually.


Alvey
tavares x2
trujillo

Trying to figure out this Tavares (-175) fight now... Why you like Tavares x2 Bumdeal?

Write up -http://mmajunkie.com/2014/06/thiago-...fight-night-47

- http://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/...oblems-peralta

[MD]

You can criticize my results when I hype up a fighter big time and he then loses badly.. I deserve it and I even feel bad when and if people trailed me on it...

The fights I really hype up with posts and pics I am probably 10-1, maybe 10-2 in the last year on average.. Not so comical.. For example - Rumble Johnson I've been riding and he hasn't lost in years.. I hyped him up greatly in posts and with pics for every event he was in.. Gotta ride those win streaks with the bad arse fighters regardless of odds.. You do that and 10-1 doesn't seem so out landish. All favorites though..

Jon Jones is another fighter I've been riding and hyping up for years and I will continue to do just that.. I even road Nick Newell for a while til his last beat down loss.. Chris Weidman is another dude I haven't bet against as far back as I can remember..

My logic and reasoning is sound.. Is that clear enough for you MD?

You're even less self-aware than Gabe. If you at least acknowledged that you have no idea what you're talking about, you could actually change.

[JIBBBY]

You're even less self-aware than Gabe. If you at least acknowledged that you have no idea what you're talking about, you could actually change.

Not one of my finer posts.. Was drinking alot that night.. ... Right MD.. Right...

With that being said...

[Wilbo86]

I'll keep this short and sweet. Have plays on the under and ITD for May/Jordan, straight on Makovsky and Pearson. Still undecided on main event, leaning OSP ITD, but will probably stay away from it baring big line movement.

[Ron_Paul_2012]

Not one of my finer posts.. Was drinking alot that night.. ... Right MD.. Right...

With that being said...

Jibster. I hate to call you out but you don't really write for a MMA website do you. Just come clean man. Confession is good for the soul.

[Ron_Paul_2012]

I'll keep this short and sweet. Have plays on the under and ITD for May/Jordan, straight on Makovsky and Pearson. Still undecided on main event, leaning OSP ITD, but will probably stay away from it baring big line movement.

What gambling site has this prop up right now? I call BS!

[Wilbo86]

What gambling site has this prop up right now? I call BS!

You are correct sir, jumped the gun a bit there. Still waiting to put that down.

[JIBBBY]

Jibster. I hate to call you out but you don't really write for a MMA website do you. Just come clean man. Confession is good for the soul.

Paper not website.. Post fight writer.. Also a commercial property owner if you can believe that outside the writing and gambling..

I'm just a degenerate gambler trying to win bets on this website is all we really need to know...

[JIBBBY]

I'll keep this short and sweet. Have plays on the under and ITD for May/Jordan, straight on Makovsky and Pearson. Still undecided on main event, leaning OSP ITD, but will probably stay away from it baring big line movement.

Wilbo you're on Mak too... Alrighty then..... I'm really not getting this play from you guys at almost -300???

[Wilbo86]

Wilbo you're on Mak too... Alrighty then..... I'm really not getting this play at almost -300???

He's just an unbelievably solid fighter with good fight IQ. You don't need to worry about whether he'll choose the right game plan or hesitate in implementing it. I think he's worth the price. Unlikely that formiga wins a decision so his only chance is an early submission. If you're going to play formigga you might as well just wait for the sub prop.

[JIBBBY]

He's just an unbelievably solid fighter with good fight IQ. You don't need to worry about whether he'll choose the right game plan or hesitate in implementing it. I think he's worth the price. Unlikely that formiga wins a decision so his only chance is an early submission. If you're going to play formigga you might as well just wait for the sub prop.

Received and understood, I gotta say though Formiga is not a one trick pony. He's got a few decision wins in his back pocket.. He's not a fish out of water standing either..

I do agree with ya Wil that if Formiga wins this fight it will probably be by sub and not by decision.. I am waiting for that sub prop and a few others to come out as well.. Just wanting to get a solid W/L grip on these prelim fights first which I'm trying to do now...

[Bumdeal]

Trying to figure out this Tavares (-175) fight now... Why you like Tavares x2 Bumdeal?

Write up -http://mmajunkie.com/2014/06/thiago-...fight-night-47

- http://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/...oblems-peralta

I meant both Tavares on the card

[MD]

He's just an unbelievably solid fighter with good fight IQ. You don't need to worry about whether he'll choose the right game plan or hesitate in implementing it. I think he's worth the price. Unlikely that formiga wins a decision so his only chance is an early submission. If you're going to play formigga you might as well just wait for the sub prop.

At least now we know who JIBBBY's ghost is.