Attn those with bovada &5d accounts

[Bookierapist]

Free roll alert: Faber vs Caceres 5dimes: +900 -1850
Blowvada: -750 +475

I got it at +1000 for $200 and right after it moved to +900, but its a free roll with $1500 to win $200 on Blowvada. Yes I created this account just to inform you guys.
You're penetrating welcome.

[MD]

[Bookierapist]

What's dumb about this MD?

[MD]

Never post arbs. You're only hurting yourself, and others, in the long run.

[PunisherIND]

Fyi bovada are a bunch of f@gs

Dont be surprised if they cancel the wagers and you get stuck with the dog side only.

They cancelled my wager on edgar -400 claiming line error.

[PunisherIND]

Also, you will probably get limited soon.

[NunyaBidness]

Also, you will probably get limited soon.

This.

And now even more likely because you cause people who didn't see it to jump on it, increasing their exposure.

[Bookierapist]

I don't understand though. The wagers are at two different books; bovada and 5dimes. I'm not exposing either site. Its literally just a free roll if you have the money on both sites.

[MD]

I don't understand though. The wagers are at two different books; bovada and 5dimes. I'm not exposing either site. Its literally just a free roll if you have the money on both sites.

Seems that way.

Doesn't matter if the wagers are at two different books, you expose both. "It's literally just a free roll" should tell you everything you need to know. How many books are in the business of giving away money?

[Lick496]

Nice of you to want to help everyone out bookie, but MD is right. Feel free to send me a pm next time though! Haha

[Bookierapist]

Seems that way.

Doesn't matter if the wagers are at two different books, you expose both. "It's literally just a free roll" should tell you everything you need to know. How many books are in the business of giving away money?

MD you can't be this dumb. No book is giving away money. If I find Patriots +3 on one site, and Patriots +6 on another, and I decide to pay the juice and try to middle, that's not exposing either book. Please explain to me how that is exposing either book.

[MD]

MD you can't be this dumb. No book is giving away money. If I find Patriots +3 on one site, and Patriots +6 on another, and I decide to pay the juice and try to middle, that's not exposing either book. Please explain to me how that is exposing either book.

So why is it that you think that you can free roll? Is that somehow not "giving away money"?

What's the EV for Bovada and 5D taking the other side of these wagers? If you are guaranteed to have a positive expectation of profit, then the books' EV is...?

[Bookierapist]

So why is it that you think that you can free roll? Is that somehow not "giving away money"?

What's the EV for Bovada and 5D taking the other side of these wagers? If you are guaranteed to have a positive expectation of profit, then the books' EV is...?

You have to be trolling. Again, neither book is being exposed from my bet. Obviously whichever book moved the line the most (5dimes) would be susceptible to a hedge, from whoever got faber at -600. But my bet has nothing to do with that. You're looking at it like both bets are from the same book.

My bet has nothing to do with the fact one book is exposing itself with its drastic line movement.

[MD]

You have to be trolling. Again, neither book is being exposed from my bet. Obviously whichever book moved the line the most (5dimes) would be susceptible to a hedge, from whoever got faber at -600. But my bet has nothing to do with that. You're looking at it like both bets are from the same book.

My bet has nothing to do with the fact one book is exposing itself with its drastic line movement.

I really don't understand how you don't get this. You are making a "guaranteed" profit if your wagers aren't cancelled; if you are guaranteed to win money, the books are guaranteed to...?

If you still don't get it, then you need to put a lot of work into your gambling theory before we can have this conversation. You're clearly not educated as far as this topic goes.

[Bookierapist]

I see you are either extremely dense, can't admit when you're wrong, or both. If you can't grasp the concept that my bet is on 2 different books, therefore rendering your argument invalid, then may God have mercy on your soul. GL with your future wagers everyone.

[MD]

I see you are either extremely dense, can't admit when you're wrong, or both. If you can't grasp the concept that my bet is on 2 different books, therefore rendering your argument invalid, then may God have mercy on your soul. GL with your future wagers everyone.

The best and worst part of SBR is when really ignorant people insist on defending really ignorant points. Anyone reading this who also has two braincells to rub together can easily see why the books will penalize you for arbing; the idea that you can make guaranteed profit from the books without them losing money is probably the most ignorant point I've ever seen defended on SBR, and that's quite an accomplishment. All it takes is the most basic of human reasoning to determine that, for you to make money from the books, they have to lose money, but somehow, you don't get this. I'm going to assume that you're a troll from this point on.

[Keyboard Warrior]

another ghost, unreal

it is on2thenext1

SBR needs to fix all these ghost accounts, clean the forum up

[MD]

another ghost, unreal

it is on2thenext1

SBR needs to fix all these ghost accounts, clean the forum up

80% sure that on2thenext1 is FightFightFight, and at the very least, FightFightFight is smarter than this guy.

[Bookierapist]

This is for the simple minded, because obviously there are more than one.

You live in Jacksonville FL. You get a great line on the Eagles ML vs the Jaguars at -500. You travel to Philly and get a great price on the Jags ML at +550. Try and stay with me here MD. You now have Eagles ML -500, and Jags ML +550.....AT 2 DIFFERENT BOOKS. I've now rubbed my 2 brain cells together, which created more intelligence than your trillion, and decided to put $5000 to win $1000 on Eagles ML, and $1000 to win $5500 on Jags ML. That would be a free roll, and its the exact same situation as above, only not online. Hopefully that helps you comprehend.

[MD]

This is for the simple minded, because obviously there are more than one.

You live in Jacksonville FL. You get a great line on the Eagles ML vs the Jaguars at -500. You travel to Philly and get a great price on the Jags ML at +550. Try and stay with me here MD. You now have Eagles ML -500, and Jags ML +550.....AT 2 DIFFERENT BOOKS. I've now rubbed my 2 brain cells together, which created more intelligence than your trillion, and decided to put $5000 to win $1000 on Eagles ML, and $1000 to win $5500 on Jags ML. That would be a free roll, and its the exact same situation as above, only not online. Hopefully that helps you comprehend.

Yes, that is how a freeroll works, but how rephrasing that same point over and over supports anything you're saying, I have no idea. You just keep repeating that it's at two different books, as if that changes anything at all about the situation and isn't obvious. You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

[NunyaBidness]

This is for the simple minded, because obviously there are more than one.

You live in Jacksonville FL. You get a great line on the Eagles ML vs the Jaguars at -500. You travel to Philly and get a great price on the Jags ML at +550. Try and stay with me here MD. You now have Eagles ML -500, and Jags ML +550.....AT 2 DIFFERENT BOOKS. I've now rubbed my 2 brain cells together, which created more intelligence than your trillion, and decided to put $5000 to win $1000 on Eagles ML, and $1000 to win $5500 on Jags ML. That would be a free roll, and its the exact same situation as above, only not online. Hopefully that helps you comprehend.

Here is what you're missing:

Let's pretend your local electronics store is selling Xbox Ones for $300. You buy one, and realize you can sell it on ebay for $400.

You can probably buy a few more slowly over time and make some money. But, if you post on the internet that this store is selling these for too cheap, they are going to get an influx of customers all trying to buy them and they will quickly fix the pricing error.

Only difference is, in the world of sportsbooks, they can decide to take their xboxes back at any time.

[Bookierapist]

The best and worst part of SBR is when really ignorant people insist on defending really ignorant points. Anyone reading this who also has two braincells to rub together can easily see why the books will penalize you for arbing; the idea that you can make guaranteed profit from the books without them losing money is probably the most ignorant point I've ever seen defended on SBR, and that's quite an accomplishment. All it takes is the most basic of human reasoning to determine that, for you to make money from the books, they have to lose money, but somehow, you don't get this. I'm going to assume that you're a troll from this point on.

That's what this whole thing was about MD. Please and don't try and backtrack now that you finally realize you were wrong and look like a complete moron.

[Bookierapist]

Here is what you're missing:

Let's pretend your local electronics store is selling Xbox Ones for $300. You buy one, and realize you can sell it on ebay for $400.

You can probably buy a few more slowly over time and make some money. But, if you post on the internet that this store is selling these for too cheap, they are going to get an influx of customers all trying to buy them and they will quickly fix the pricing error.

Only difference is, in the world of sportsbooks, they can decide to take their xboxes back at any time.

I definitely understand this, however I've already emptied my account so there was no reason for me not to try and help some others out. My problem came with MD's claim that I will get penalized and possibly banned/limited for this. That's impossible for them to do at 2 different books but since he can't admit that he was wrong, he will keep trolling, because that's what he does.

Also, I understand my post might get change the line, but my point of this thread was to help others get on it before they don't have this nice free roll opportunity. That's what I thought the goal of this forum was; to help everyone beat the books, but obviously its cluttered with trolls like MD which make it a miserable experience.

[MD]

That's what this whole thing was about MD. Please and don't try and backtrack now that you finally realize you were wrong and look like a complete moron.

You should explain, in great detail, how I back-tracked.

I'll wait.

You're really running out of ideas here.

[MD]

I definitely understand this, however I've already emptied my account so there was no reason for me not to try and help some others out. My problem came with MD's claim that I will get penalized and possibly banned/limited for this. That's impossible for them to do at 2 different books but since he can't admit that he was wrong, he will keep trolling, because that's what he does.

Also, I understand my post might get change the line, but my point of this thread was to help others get on it before they don't have this nice free roll opportunity. That's what I thought the goal of this forum was; to help everyone beat the books, but obviously its cluttered with trolls like MD which make it a miserable experience.

[NunyaBidness]

You're still wrong.

You will very likely get limited at bovada for doing this. Maybe not this time, but after a few more. I don't know any winning bettors who aren't limited at bovada.

And you may not only move the line, but get it cancelled completely. As Pun said, he hammered Edgar when it was arbable and the line got cancelled on him, if he had taken the arb, he would not have exposure on that side alone.

[JIBBBY]

I'm on Bovado and 5D.. I often see the lines between both books separate alot.. I'll lean on one harder then the other when the lines do that in accordance to my plays..

I gotta say I'm happy with Bovado though thus far, been with them for a little less then a year now - Up on them and the payouts still come fast via DHL and free of charge, and those funky international checks have cashed for me every time with no problems..

Bovado even gave me a nice free play for soccer this week and for no reason...

Love how they tell you to deposit thru the ATM at your local bank instead of going into the branch to deposit.. LOL..

[Bookierapist]

You're still wrong.

You will very likely get limited at bovada for doing this. Maybe not this time, but after a few more. I don't know any winning bettors who aren't limited at bovada.

And you may not only move the line, but get it cancelled completely. As Pun said, he hammered Edgar when it was arbable and the line got cancelled on him, if he had taken the arb, he would not have exposure on that side alone.

So are you saying that they will cancel a bet after its been placed because they were too late to change it? Also how quickly did they cancel Pun's bet?

[NunyaBidness]

So are you saying that they will cancel a bet after its been placed because they were too late to change it? Also how quickly did they cancel Pun's bet?

Yes, this happens ALL the time. Sometimes gets cancelled in minutes, sometimes days later.

That's one of the reasons why when you see these off lines you shouldn't take the arb, just bet the soft side.

I probably average 2 cancellations a month. It's bullshit, the only industry where they can offer you a price, you say okay and then they say nevermind; but its the reality of the situation.

[NunyaBidness]

I'm on Bovado and 5D.. I often see the lines between both books separate alot.. I'll lean on one harder then the other when the lines do that in accordance to my plays..

I gotta say I'm happy with Bovado though thus far, been with them for a little less then a year now - Up on them and the payouts still come fast via DHL and free of charge, and those funky international checks have cashed for me every time with no problems..

Bovada is a terrific book to have in your corner. Lots of value to be found, only problem is once you start finding it

[JIBBBY]

Bovada is a terrific book to have in your corner. Lots of value to be found, only problem is once you start finding it

I read ya....

I've really had no real problems with BOVADA except one time - they did cancel one of my bets a month ago, sent me an apology note in my in box stating it was a "transmission" error... What ever that means... The bet hit too... That's really about it..

I was just gonna stop cashing out like you said from now on, build a huge balance up hopefully.. Then take a big payout.. I'm also with Betus.com for over a year now and I really have the feeling they are gonna cut me off any day now.. Way up on them... Payouts are taking longer and longer to process so I won't deposit anymore money with Betus.com in the future.. Just have a balance that keeps increasing.. What do you do with that? They are getting suspect ratings now too...

I also would like to ask you a question if you don't mind - if your balance gets over 10 grand, at what point will you cash out? Don't tax implications come into play with over 10 grand payouts? What do you do then?

There is still much I need to learn I read all the posts now but still not picking up on stuff.. Any tips would be greatly appreciated by any of you big wigs..

Thanks as always and I hope I can pay ya back with MMA picks and breakdown information in the future as always

I've already been cut off from Sportsbook.com as of a year ago.. I got burned for 1400 bucks as I told ya before..

[MD]

Bovada is a terrible book you say Nunya?

I've really had no real problems with them but I'll take your word for it.. They did cancel one of my bets a month ago, sent me an apology note in my in box stating it was a "transmission" error... What ever that means... The bet hit too... That's really about it..

I was just gonna stop cashing out like you said from now on, build a huge balance up hopefully.. Then take a big payout.. I'm also with Betus.com for over a year now and I really have the feeling they are gonna cut me off any day now.. Way up on them... Payouts are taking longer and longer to process so I won't deposit anymore money with Betus.com in the future.. Just have a balance that keeps increasing.. What do you do with that? They are getting suspect ratings now too...

I also would like to ask you a question if you don't mind - if your balance gets over 10 grand, at what point will you cash out? Don't tax implications come into play with over 10 grand payouts? What do you do then?

There is still much I need to learn I read all the posts now but still not picking up on stuff.. Any tips would be greatly appreciated by any of you big wigs..

Thanks as always and I hope I can pay ya back with MMA picks and breakdown information in the future as always

I've already been cut off from Sportsbook.com as of a year ago.. I got burned for 1400 bucks..

No.

[JIBBBY]

No.

I read that wrong and corrected it MD.. I thought Nunya said it was Terrible and not terrific.. I edited the entire post..

[Das Jax]

I'm going to sidestep this entire minefield and change the entire topic of conversation. Since we're talking about the merits of various sportsbooks, how long did it take Sportsbet to get checks sent out? I cashed out a significant amount two weeks ago and the mailbox is still irritatingly empty.

Edit:

But also, new guy, while I agree that arb's are best kept confidential (basically for the same reason Nunya articulated), I'm also in Lick's camp in that I'm more than willing to have that info messaged to me the next time you come across something like that And I'll gladly return the favor as well.

We'd be a fool to think the various books that are out there don't monitor public boards like this one, but at the same time, I'm all for helping each other out against the books any way possible. Keeping the messages private accomplishes just that.

[JIBBBY]

I'm going to sidestep this entire minefield and change the entire topic of conversation. Since we're talking about the merits of various sportsbooks, how long did it take Sportsbet to get checks sent out? I cashed out a significant amount two weeks ago and the mailbox is still irritatingly empty.

I'm not sure I'm qualified to answer this question but I'll take a stab at it, for me and my one book cut off, the payout requests became delayed longer and longer with each one till it just stopped.. Call and get the run around... They then would just refund my betting account balance which really pissed me off..

I'd say two weeks and still pending would be a huge red flag for me. Now with Betus.com the processing times have really slowed as to where your betting balance is actually effected.. Approval pending notes last longer... Once approved and the account is deducted though I then get paid on a DCard. Still paying out though but slower..