UFC 174: Johnson vs. Bagautinov (june 14, 2014)

[Vaughany]

Thiago alves came back a few months ago didnt he?

[Dwil125]

On Shockley +3.5 (-155), not sure if the fight is already going or not

[Ron_Paul_2012]

.4 units on Saggo.

[Ron_Paul_2012]

On Shockley +3.5 (-155), not sure if the fight is already going or not

They are walking into the cage as we speak.

[Ron_Paul_2012]

Saggo with the kung fu fighting walkout!

[Dwil125]

They are walking into the cage as we speak.

Just got the stream going, didnt realize rolly was on fight pass also. Good luck tonight

[Unwritten Law]

Let's get it on!

[Das Jax]

Hey, remember when this forum actually contained valuable knowledge and betting insights? Yeah... me neither.

But in an effort to change that, I'd like to direct your attention to the Shockley vs. Saggo fight on the undercard. Should be a good fight, but what I really like is it's betting potential. It's the first UFC fight for both fighters, so I image nerves will be at play a bit. Even though they have a lot of submissions between them (Saggo in particular), but I think this fight is going the distance. What I really like though is the lines Saggo not by sub (-285) and Saggo not ITD (-215). Facing a guy like Saggo (8 of his 9 wins are by sub), I expect Shockley to keep it standing as much as possible and even if it goes to the ground I think he has enough grappling acumen (5 of his 11 wins are by sub) to keep from being submitted.

Just my two cents.

[Primer]

hobo fight

[Das Jax]

Looks like I was a bit late with that post... not enthused to see it on the ground.

[Das Jax]

Phew... dodged a bullet there. Had ten units on not by sub. Shockley looked horrible. Definitely made the right call about the nerves I think.

[Keyboard Warrior]

Das Jax I enjoy your posts. As soon as I see Ron Paul's avatar I instantly scroll the browser.

[Ron_Paul_2012]

.4 units on Saggo.

2 units Delorme.

[JIBBBY]

Sagga looked really good on the ground.. This guy might have a little something.. Good win...

Delorme let's do this!!!!

[shabang]

tanaka all the way!

[Das Jax]

1.5 units says it doesn't go the distance.

[Das Jax]

Hah, I hope Tanaka goes super Saiyan (spelling?). Loving that hair.

[Skel]

OSP -110 2.75 units to win 2.5 units
Schaub -125 5 units to win 4 units
Woodley 2.25 units to win 2.5 units
Cavalcante by KO/TKO +265 1 unit to win 2.65 units
Johnson in R4 +1225 0.5 units to win 6.1 units
Johnson in R5 +1575 0.5 units to win 7.9 units
Macdonald/Woodley FoTN +400 1 unit to win 4 units
Macdonald by decision +225 2 units to win 4.5 units
Johnson + Macdonald/Woodley GTD 2.5 units to win 2 units
Johnson -5.5 + Macdonald +3.5 2.5 units to win 2.1 units
Sarafian + Easton 2.5 units to win 2.4 units

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

Delorme did more off his back

[Wilbo86]

Alright fellas, moment of truth tonight. Im still tilting a little bit from the decision last weekend and this is the most amount of skin in the game I've had on one event. Considering its full of fairly even matchups I might be in for a rocky ride. Let us join hands:

Oh devine gambling deity;
grant me the courage to pick winnerz;
accept the bets that do not cash,
and wisdom to know the difference.

[shabang]

tanaka took round 1 easily..

[Imsmarterthanu]

Joe Rogan being a biased BJJ nuthugger

[Imsmarterthanu]

delorme is gettin fukd up

[shabang]

why would you guys pick delorme? Tanaka was the easy pick here..

[Dwil125]

OSP -110 2.75 units to win 2.5 units
Schaub -125 5 units to win 4 units
Woodley 2.25 units to win 2.5 units
Cavalcante by KO/TKO +265 1 unit to win 2.65 units
Johnson in R4 +1225 0.5 units to win 6.1 units
Johnson in R5 +1575 0.5 units to win 7.9 units
Macdonald/Woodley FoTN +400 1 unit to win 4 units
Macdonald by decision +225 2 units to win 4.5 units
Johnson + Macdonald/Woodley GTD 2.5 units to win 2 units
Johnson -5.5 + Macdonald +3.5 2.5 units to win 2.1 units
Sarafian + Easton 2.5 units to win 2.4 units

Do you like Osp by decision?

[Skel]

Great ground game from Tanaka.

[Skel]

Do you like Osp by decision?

Yeah, though I'm not super confident in OSP here. I think Jimmo is a tough style matchup for him.

[Skel]

"we saw Delorme have a bit of sex here"

One of Rogan's best

[Dwil125]

Sarafian fastest sub +1550.

[Das Jax]

Good win for Tanaka... just wish he'd finished.

[Dwil125]

Yeah, though I'm not super confident in OSP here. I think Jimmo is a tough style matchup for him.

Its your biggest play of the night though? Not a bad idea taking both sides of the Woodley/Rory mac fight since you like it to go over.

[JIBBBY]

The Jap had the wrestling advantage and stayed out of range standing.. Fought smart and had the throws.... Didn't see that happening..

[Skel]

Sarafian fastest sub +1550.

Not bad. Maybe would tail if the fights hadn't already started.

[Skel]

Its your biggest play of the night though? Not a bad idea taking both sides of the Woodley/Rory mac fight since you like it to go over.

Nah, Schaub is my biggest play. I just like OSP at near evens. I've gone back and forth on the Woodley/Rory fight, I just liked some of the prop lines so I'm playing both sides. As long as the fight is a close decision I'll do well.

[shabang]

who are you guys going for BANG OR KAJUN ... I can't decide - they're both horrible