UFC 174: Johnson vs. Bagautinov (june 14, 2014)

[TheCalculator]

Rory's main path to victory is to jab Woodley for 3 rounds. I don't think he's going to get the takedowns and I don't think he's gonna KO him either.

[JIBBBY]

Rory's main path to victory is to jab Woodley for 3 rounds. I don't think he's going to get the takedowns and I don't think he's gonna KO him either.

He's probably long and technical enough to do just that.. Me thinks Rory could also hurt and wear down Woodley in the clinch exchanges as well..

[Ron_Paul_2012]

Didn't have time to check your picks you listed on the Bellator thread for this last UFC event.. How did you fair Ronster? Still on fire?

Mighty Mouse looks unbeatable these days, probably a good bet you made there!!!!.... I'll parlay him up myself if it stays around or under -500.....

Yes you did. Remember you said I was on fire again. I was big on Lins & Sokoudkou straight. Anundson straight. Valavicius straight. Thompson straight. And medium on a Lins/Sokoudjou parlay. Ended up winning +12 units.

[JIBBBY]

Yes you did. Remember you said I was on fire again. I was big on Lins & Sokoudkou straight. Anundson straight. Valavicius straight. Thompson straight. And medium on a Lins/Sokoudjou parlay. Ended up winning +12 units.

Good stuff... Keep it up!!!!!

[TheCalculator]

He's probably long and technical enough to do just that.. Me thinks Rory could also hurt and wear down Woodley in the clinch exchanges as well..

I think WOodley is too strong and will over Rory in the clinch.

[Skel]

Macdonald/Woodley is a fascinating matchup. Rory has a big advantage in skill but Woodley has much more power, speed and, from what I've seen, a better chin. Woodley's key to winning this fight is using strikes and takedowns synergistically, and he knows it. I expect he'll be able to get Rory down but I also expect Rory to be able to get back to his feet relatively quickly. Even without much top time, those takedowns will still score points for Woodley in a fight that very well may have a low level of damage done by either fighter. On the feet, Rory should have an advantage as long as he can keep from getting hit with any of Woodley's bombs. At this point, I think the most likely outcome is Woodley winning a close decision by mixing takedowns with strikes.

[JIBBBY]

Ryan Bader vs Rafael Cav.. This fight seems pretty clear cut to me.. Bader has the wrestling and will probably use it in this fight.. If he doesn't he probably gets dropped.. I gotta go with Bader in this fight.. He's looked pretty solid lately. I don't trust his chin though... Rafael 34 Brazilian won't be able to stop the take downs I think..

Andrei Arlovski vs Brenden Shaub - This is another tricky fight to try and gauge on.. AA has been on a roll, always had good athleticism and take down defense.. Brenden is probably gonna have to slug it out with the original Pit Bull.. Not sure who I like coming out of this one??? Maybe Arlovski by KO just because he's turned it around and fights with confidence now again..

I doubt either of these 2 fights go the distance if I had to guess...

[Skel]

Ryan Bader vs Rafael Cav.. This fight seems pretty clear cut to me.. Bader has the wrestling and will probably use it in this fight.. If he doesn't he probably gets dropped.. I gotta go with Bader in this fight.. He's looked pretty solid lately. I don't trust his chin though... Rafael 34 Brazilian won't be able to stop the take downs I think..

Feijao had success against the wrestling of King Mo, so it's not a given that Bader can outwrestle him for 3 rounds. It's also unknown what kind of cardio Feijao will bring into this fight, as he looked horrible in that regard against Thiago Silva. I really can't make a prediction for this one.

[Vaughany]

[latarianmilton]

im big on schaub and st preux, they are gonna be my biggest bets since nelson. also gonna be on feijao
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im surprised to see rory at plus odds but has he ever fought a wrestler like woodley? usually is his wrestling base that allow him to outstrike opponents, without that im not even sure he has the striking advantage, but it is canada so hes gonna be on psycho mode or something

[Vaughany]

Gotta study that tape boiiis

[Vaughany]

[snapperman2]

Does anyone think that Arlovski has any chance against Schaub? I kind of like Arlovski, but I think he should quit MMA before he gets seriously hurt. He has a glass chin these days. He's lost to every elite fighter he's faced for the last 5 years, and only beaten cans. Now he's fighting a dangerous, younger fighter with knockout power. I'm betting on Schaub.

[omalley21]

Feijao had success against the wrestling of King Mo, so it's not a given that Bader can outwrestle him for 3 rounds. It's also unknown what kind of cardio Feijao will bring into this fight, as he looked horrible in that regard against Thiago Silva. I really can't make a prediction for this one.

King mo didn't have an acl in that fight though.. So far I took Woodley, Schaub and OSP when they dropped.

[Vaughany]

Does anyone think that Arlovski has any chance against Schaub? I kind of like Arlovski, but I think he should quit MMA before he gets seriously hurt. He has a glass chin these days. He's lost to every elite fighter he's faced for the last 5 years, and only beaten cans. Now he's fighting a dangerous, younger fighter with knockout power. I'm betting on Schaub.

yes, he is very hittable and Arlovski has the speed and power to take advantage of tht. Probably wont cos Schaub has chickenhead powers but still a chance

[JIBBBY]

Feijao had success against the wrestling of King Mo, so it's not a given that Bader can outwrestle him for 3 rounds. It's also unknown what kind of cardio Feijao will bring into this fight, as he looked horrible in that regard against Thiago Silva. I really can't make a prediction for this one.

Good point.. I need to watch that fight again to see if King Mo really even tried to use he wrestling? Some may consider Bader a better MMA wrestler then King Mo though. I'm gonna check that fight now.. Thanks..

That fight did take place 4 years ago.. Mo was a little more raw back then.. It went the distance too... Hmmm?

The more I look at the fight record....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Cavalcante... the more I see the only way he's been beat is by punches and KO's.. Perhaps he really is immune to good wrestlers...


Skel you absolutely changed my mind on this fight... THANKS.. Good chance Ryan Bader gets KTFO standing in this one... Bader does have a small head to go along with a suspect chin at times..

Even with that being said Bader has been on a pretty good roll of late so I'm NOT gonna have a big play on this fight either way...

[JIBBBY]

im big on schaub and st preux, they are gonna be my biggest bets since nelson. also gonna be on feijao

Why you going big on Schaub? How do you think he's gonna beat AA? By KO standing? Curious as to your reasoning behind this pic?

AA has pretty good boxing as long as he doesn't get careless.. His chin has been holding up lately too in his recent fights which is a shocker...

We've also seen Brenden Schaub dropped before and out cold... Roy Nelson, Big Nog and Rothwell put him out.. Schaub hasn't exactly been knocking people out either with regularity.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Brendan-Schaub-33926

[Vaughany]

[Beelzebubzy]

It looks like he is having sex with a ghost.

[JIBBBY]

^^ LOL...

I'd say Brenden Schaub got KO'd by Ben Rothwell and Roy Nelson because those guys are big tough guys with granite jaws whom are more then willing to take one to give one.. Big Nog dropping him makes me scratch my head though? If Big Nog can drop Brenden then it's safe to say AA can too..

Another tough fight to bet on, either guy could get blasted in this fight.. Still leaning towards AA...

[Das Jax]

It looks like he is having sex with a ghost.

A very large ghost at that...

[JIBBBY]

Bleacher report final short break downs of each fight in this event.. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...174-fight-card

Bleacher report coverage of the UFC events are pretty solid for the most part... The writers stick to the facts and basics with short reads..

I like that anyways as a starting point when trying handicap these fights..

[marzwoody]

Ill go with Marz Woodley...

[Bumdeal]

[marzwoody]

After all this shit he's been talking on podcasts he better get the W... im almost tempted to bet on him, but i don't want to get disappointed.

https://soundcloud.com/fighterandthekid/brendan-and-bryans-ufc-174-pre-fight-show?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=twitter

[Rubber Guard]

Tough fights indeed. I like Feijao and Schaub. The Rory/Wood fight is hard read for me. Gut feeling would be Rory wins, but I have maybe been underestimating Woodley's improvement and still overrating Rory since he was maybe still is the next Canadian poster boy.

[marzwoody]

Gonna go out on a limb and bet on scraub / johnson. based on everything scraub has been saying that no heavyweight trains harder etc etc. but if he loses i legit hope he gets hit by a truck.

[marzwoody]

Tough fights indeed. I like Feijao and Schaub. The Rory/Wood fight is hard read for me. Gut feeling would be Rory wins, but I have maybe been underestimating Woodley's improvement and still overrating Rory since he was maybe still is the next Canadian poster boy.

That was my gut feeling as-well, gonna stay away from that fight. woodley is just to dangerous.

[Ron_Paul_2012]

Gonna go out on a limb and bet on scraub / johnson. based on everything scraub has been saying that no heavyweight trains harder etc etc. but if he loses i legit hope he gets hit by a truck.

You don't really bet on fights remember. Sorry, but you have NO credibility after your "Go HARD on Eric Perez" thread. You are a f-cking clown! If you want some extra $ then take your red shoes to the nearest street corner & start tap dancing like Bojangles.

[marzwoody]

You don't really bet on fights remember. Sorry, but you have NO credibility after your "Go HARD on Eric Perez" thread. You are a f-cking clown! If you want some extra $ then take your red shoes to the nearest street corner & start tap dancing like Bojangles.

Was that your attempt at humour? I really don't care. if you don't have anything positive to direct to me don't direct anything at all. your nothing more then a name or a forum to me... you seem to take this stuff personal, i just come here for discussion on the fights.

[marzwoody]

You have no creditability after your numerous 33 unit failures. haha. didn't you say were an old ass man before? then why do you act like your 15 serious question?

[Vaughany]

Gonna go out on a limb and bet on scraub / johnson. based on everything scraub has been saying that no heavyweight trains harder etc etc. but if he loses i legit hope he gets hit by a truck.

Haha jason reinhardt also said no lightweight trains harder! Chickenhead's speech towards end of fighter and the kid podcast yesterday was pretty funny. Went all serious and was going off about how he has as good cardio as cain and cain is a great matchup for him! I like Big Brown but it would be quite funny if Arlovski KO's him in opening monute!

[marzwoody]

42.3 units on Mighty Mouse straight. 14.66 units on T-Wood. Good luck ALL!

This see how this plays out.

[marzwoody]

Haha jason reinhardt also said no lightweight trains harder! Chickenhead's speech towards end of fighter and the kid podcast yesterday was pretty funny. Went all serious and was going off about how he has as good cardio as cain and cain is a great matchup for him! I like Big Brown but it would be quite funny if Arlovski KO's him in opening monute!

Man seriously how he could even talk on a podcast again if he loses?... criticizing fighters about what they should of done, and boasting about how he's a UFC vet all the time haha. seriously dude if he cant even beat over the hill glass chin arlovski, just shut your penetrating mouth and retire.

[Vaughany]

Brittney Palmer battling through training camp injury to stay on 174 card....what a warrior

Brittney Palmer won't let a fractured wrist keep her from ring girl duties at UFC 174 in Vancouver later this month -- refusing doctors orders to wear a cast because ... well ... it's not hot.

Brittney says she was riding her skateboard through the Hollywood Hills last week and crashed hard -- fracturing her wrist in the process.

An orthopedic surgeon wanted to put the wrist in a hard cast -- and that's when Brittney put her foot down, telling the doc it simply wasn't gonna happen.

And why not? Simple ... Brit's gotta hold the cards at 174 and doesn't want a clunky cast on her arm to clash with her tiny bikini.

Or as she puts it, "No one wants to see an octagon girl sporting a dorky cast."

Doctors ... never considering the hotness factor.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/06/10/ufc-br...#ixzz34JYdi06r