UFC 168: Weidman Vs Silva 2 (December 28, 2013)

[PunisherIND]

Small on payan su +165 and dec +330

[LoveDaRush]

Weidman is gonna beat the crap out of silva

cant wait

[Thor4140]

I havent seen one person on Brown and now the odds are dropping? Looks like Barnett needs a sub or knockout to win this one if these lines keep coming down. This keeps dropping Barnett has no shot at a decision, Vegas style.

[Thor4140]

Even Sonnen, a guy who had a feud with Silva said if you called it a lucky punch, he wouldn't argue with it. Many other pros said the same. So they must have no knowledge of Martial Arts either. Chris certainly did practice to keep punching and try and catch Silva doing the Matrix, I have no doubt about that. It wasn't pure luck. But if Anderson respects Weidman at all then he doesn't try to defend like that. Silva goes against the grain in terms of proper technique often. But any fighter, planting their feet, and bending their back backwards with their chin in the air, is going to get KO'd. Perhaps Weidman did set a trap and knew ANderson would be cocky enough to think he was Forrest Griffin. But either way Anderson displayed terrible fundamentals, and pretended to be hurt. He was so far out of position it isn't even funny. Credit Weidman for having enough discipline to not be phased and capitalize. But Anderson's off balance contributed to getting KO'd just as much, probably more than anything Chris did. Anderson simply took baiting/clowning too far vs. a legit opponent and paid for it. Perhaps Chris would have went on to win anyway. But Anderson didn't respect his striking skills enough at all. He didn't clown like that vs. Belfort....because he was well aware of the speed/power Vitor had in his hands.

i think part of Silva's problem was clowning with a guy who's reach he underestimated.

[wagerjunkie]

Diego Brandao came in EIGHT pounds over, that's not good.

hes STACKED. not over weight in a bad way. Dustin was fukin furious.

find 25% of fight purse.

[wagerjunkie]

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• Luca Fury @FurysFightPicks 12h
  @MMAdamMartin @Fightnomics I looked at a list of guys who weighed in over in MMA. Guys who missed by 5+ are 11-10 shockingly. Amazing
  
  
  Adam Martin @MMAdamMartin 12h
  @FurysFightPicks @Fightnomics I figured the results were weird. Huge pass on Poirier/Brandao now
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[BIGDAY]

It's FIGHT NIGHT BABY!!!!!



LETS GET IT PUMPED UP AROUND HERE!!

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  @MMAdamMartin @Fightnomics I looked at a list of guys who weighed in over in MMA. Guys who missed by 5+ are 11-10 shockingly. Amazing
  
  
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  @FurysFightPicks @Fightnomics I figured the results were weird. Huge pass on Poirier/Brandao now
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tiny sample size. i wouldnt take anything away from those numbers.

found this interesting though. apparently brandao weighed in an hour later at 151.5 (first attempt was 153). one would think that he wouldnt even try after missing by 7 lbs.

http://www.dailynews.com/sports/20131227/ufc-168-diego-brandao-badly-misses-weight

Fighters who miss weight are given one hour to meet the limit. At 5:15 — a good hour after he had missed weight, the following was posted to Brandao’s Twitter feed:
“Just make weight I’m ready to fight tomorrow! #TEAMBRANDAO”
The UFC confirmed 20 minutes later that Brandao had weighed in again at 151.5 pounds.

[Grabaka]

No you're not gaberz, out of all the dogz he's one i like the most i think -250 is pretty audacious tho!! He's also rather one dimensional which puts me off a bit. But i wouldnt be surprised if he out lands peralta for three rounds and scrapes a decision

I have him both straight and Payan Dec prop.
Lets do this Gabeys

[plekz]

hes STACKED. not over weight in a bad way. Dustin was fukin furious.

find 25% of fight purse.

A more likely scenario is a camp plagued by injury that has made it very hard for him to put in the cardio work necessery to drop the weight.

[Grabaka]

Plus a car crash and his ole fat ways too
Def. overweight in a bad way

[wagerjunkie]

A more likely scenario is a camp plagued by injury that has made it very hard for him to put in the cardio work necessery to drop the weight.

hope so.

Parlay

250.00

327.25

Fighting - 24414 J. Miller -365 for Game Fighting - 24418 D. Poirier -270 for Game Fighting - 24422 U. Hall -310 for Game

[wagerjunkie]

for some reason I got a bad feeling the Jim Miller fight might turn out to be FOTN material, a real scrap and he could lose a close decision.

[plekz]

I would never bet a CENT on Uriah Hall no matter who he's facing, he is not nor will he ever be a UFC caliber fighter, dude is a mental midget.

[Vaughany]

I havent seen one person on Brown and now the odds are dropping? Looks like Barnett needs a sub or knockout to win this one if these lines keep coming down. This keeps dropping Barnett has no shot at a decision, Vegas style.

If i played it Id play Browne for sure. I was kinda hoping tht he'd get nearer +180. I guess people think his athletic attributes can counter barnetts catch wrestling. I wouldnt be surprised if browne implements his Dominick cruzesq strategy of trying to be evasive and not letting barnett get close to him. Tht would be my strategy against a guy who is rather old and flatfooted. Obviously Mir was never going to do tht because he is quite similar in tht hes a bit sluggish and plants his feet which allowed barnett to just bullrush him and get him against the cage where we know mir is weak (as carwin fight showed). Browne is different to most Heavyweights tho. Id also expect him to use a lot of leg and body kicks as well.

[Vaughany]

ha somebody getting fired!

Rousey And Tate Booked Neighboring Rooms At MGM Grand Before UFC 168


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What could possibly fuel the rivalry between Ronda Rousey and Miesha Tate before they compete tonight at UFC 168? Well, inadvertently booking their hotel rooms right next to each other at the MGM Grand right before their rematch is something that may work. Especially while they are both cutting weight, their trainers are getting them prepared, everyone’s adrenaline is on high.
UFC President Dana White doesn’t have a problem with admitting that booking the two right next to each other was a mistake. “Anybody else on this card, it wouldn’t make a difference if their rooms were next to each other,” he told FOX Sports Live, ”We had to screw up and put their rooms next to each other. It’s true.”
Apparently Tate and her corner did not appreciate the mistake, especially after the tension that occurred between the camps on The Ultimate Fighter Season 18.
“Miesha is like ‘are you serious? I’m walking outside the hotel, and these guys are mad dogging me already,’” White said. “So we switched rooms and put Miesha in another wing of the hotel.”
Rousey went on ESPN Sports Center to shed some light on her side of the story.
“We discovered last night that they actually put Miesha in the room right next door to me. I didn’t see her, but my coach passed her boyfriend on the way out. Thankfully, Mr. Caraway was hiding behind a baby so my coach didn’t do anything,” Rousey said.
“Later that night we heard vaccums going on at 2 a.m. so I’m pretty sure they ran out and changed rooms. I was thinking about throwing furniture at the wall, but I actually had some stuff to do,” she added. “So before I actually thought of terrorizing them next door, they moved.”


- See more at: http://www.bjpenn.com/rousey-and-tat....celZrp8e.dpuf

[gabe]

No you're not gaberz, out of all the dogz he's one i like the most i think -250 is pretty audacious tho!! He's also rather one dimensional which puts me off a bit. But i wouldnt be surprised if he out lands peralta for three rounds and scrapes a decision

also, keep in mind he is a full time fighter, while peralta has a full time job outside of mma

[gabe]

I have him both straight and Payan Dec prop.
Lets do this Gabeys

I have Payan by KO +800 and +750... down to +660 last i checked

[wagerjunkie]

any of you guys here stream with chromecast?

reason I ask is cause for some reason it doesn't work when prelims are on youtube. guess it has built in software that detects live streaming. shits gay. wanted to know if there was a way around it, so don't have to go to HDMI cable.

[Vaughany]

also, keep in mind he is a full time fighter, while peralta has a full time job outside of mma

yeah I talked about it tho other day in this thread or another. Some dude was saying is there any reason not to go big on Peralta

[wagerjunkie]

ha somebody getting fired!

Rousey And Tate Booked Neighboring Rooms At MGM Grand Before UFC 168


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What could possibly fuel the rivalry between Ronda Rousey and Miesha Tate before they compete tonight at UFC 168? Well, inadvertently booking their hotel rooms right next to each other at the MGM Grand right before their rematch is something that may work. Especially while they are both cutting weight, their trainers are getting them prepared, everyone’s adrenaline is on high.
UFC President Dana White doesn’t have a problem with admitting that booking the two right next to each other was a mistake. “Anybody else on this card, it wouldn’t make a difference if their rooms were next to each other,” he told FOX Sports Live, ”We had to screw up and put their rooms next to each other. It’s true.”
Apparently Tate and her corner did not appreciate the mistake, especially after the tension that occurred between the camps on The Ultimate Fighter Season 18.
“Miesha is like ‘are you serious? I’m walking outside the hotel, and these guys are mad dogging me already,’” White said. “So we switched rooms and put Miesha in another wing of the hotel.”
Rousey went on ESPN Sports Center to shed some light on her side of the story.
“We discovered last night that they actually put Miesha in the room right next door to me. I didn’t see her, but my coach passed her boyfriend on the way out. Thankfully, Mr. Caraway was hiding behind a baby so my coach didn’t do anything,” Rousey said.
“Later that night we heard vaccums going on at 2 a.m. so I’m pretty sure they ran out and changed rooms. I was thinking about throwing furniture at the wall, but I actually had some stuff to do,” she added. “So before I actually thought of terrorizing them next door, they moved.”


- See more at: http://www.bjpenn.com/rousey-and-tat....celZrp8e.dpuf

man Rousey is one fuking whore ass bitch.

she will never ever get married. she is one of them bitches that freaks the fuk out on her guy everytime he touches the phone "who the fuk is that dirty whore you're talking to, are you fuking her, ill fuking that skank and you you scumbag"

meanwhile its one of your boys on the phone, jealous h0 written all over her

[BIGDAY]

Weidman by dec went from +1052 to +400.

Good for Weidman backers.

[Vaughany]

UFC/WEC veteran Dan Downes talks strategy, betting odds and predictions for UFC 168, taking place Saturday, December 28

Let old acquaintance be forgot and never brought to mind, it’s time for the final Downes Side of 2013!

The cups o’ kindness will be in short supply this weekend as UFC 168finishes the year strong live from the MGM Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada. The main event features one of the most highly anticipated rematches ever as Chris Weidman defends his middleweight title for the first time against Anderson “The Spider” Silva. Whether you think the first win was a fluke or not, they’ll settle it once and for all. The-co main rematch of the night personifies the term “Grudge Match” as women’s bantamweight champion Ronda Rousey defends her title against Miesha Tate.

Dustin Poirier (-210) vs Diego Brandao (+175)

The main card begins in the featherweight division with two fighters poised to make the jump into the division’s top five. An accurate striker who also holds the most submission wins in featherweight history, Dustin “The Diamond” Poirier’s opponents are rarely saved by the bell. After losing to Cub Swanson in February, he rebounded well with an impressive victory over former number-one contender Erik Koch. Winner of The Ultimate Fighter season 14, Diego Brandao (22-8) takes a big step up in competition and looks to continue his three-fight winning streak.


Brandao has made no secret about his game plan against Poirier (14-3). In my experience, though, you can trust fighters about as much as the guys at a mall kiosk (that facial cream only made me look two years younger tops). Regardless of the actual strategy, this fight presents an interesting clash of styles. Poirier likes to take a more calculated approach while Brandao attacks in an overly aggressive manner. Both have their strengths and weaknesses, but Brandao’s method will come out on top this time around. Poirier’s losses against Cub Swanson and Chan Sung Jung showed that while game, he struggles when pressured. He’s at his best when given time to measure his attacks, and Brandao will not give him that cushion. Poirier will weather the storm, but as long as Brandao doesn’t gas himself out, expect him to pick up the unanimous decision win.

Jim Miller (-370) vs Fabricio Camoes (+310)

We move up to lightweight for Jim Miller and Fabrico Camoes. Once on the brink of becoming one of the top contenders in the 155-lb division, Jim Miller (22-4 1NC) tries to get one step closer to regaining that status. Known primarily for his wrestling and submissions (he has 12 career wins via tapout), his boxing has been slowly improving. A third degree Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt, Fabricio Camoes (14-7-1) tries to find some traction in his second stint in the UFC. Not only did he lose his Julyr 2012 fight to Melvin Guillard, but he also tore his ACL in the process.


Injuries and cage rust aside, Camoes has under-delivered in his appearances in the UFC. With over a year and a half to train and rehab, it’s certainly possible that he’s become more dangerous, but with 21 career fights, chance are we’ve seen his full potential. In a pure grappling sense, Camoes has an advantage, but he doesn’t have the added dimensions to make it work. Miller has been put in bad positions by high level grapplers like Joe Lauzon and Nate Diaz, but they had the standup skills to hurt him before getting to that point. Miller controls this one on the feet and drops Camoes in the second. From there, he’ll take his back and lock up the rear-naked choke.

Josh Barnett (-185) vs Travis Browne (+160)

We jump up to heavyweight for Josh Barnett (33-6) and Travis Browne (15-1-1). After an Octagon return over a decade in the making, Josh Barnett proved that he still has some gas left in his 36-year-old tank by earning a first-round TKO over Frank Mir at UFC 164. Travis “Hapa” Browne was starting to make some big gains in the division until his track to title shot was derailed by his own hurt hamstring and “Bigfoot” Silva’s fist. Since then, he has won two straight with devastating first-round knockouts against Gabriel Gonzaga and Alistair Overeem (watch it here).

You don’t tug on Superman’s cape and you don’t instigate metalheads, but some rules were meant to be broken. Obviously Barnett has a multitude of ways to win -- his "catch wrestling" isn’t just the title of his Joseph Heller fan fiction. Pairing that with his clinch attacks, he’s brutalized some of the best in MMA history. The win against Mir was impressive, but Browne won’t make the tactical error of pinning himself against the fence. Browne will avoid the tieups and use his speed to attack from the outside. This will frustrate Barnett and leave him open to Browne’s power counter punching. Browne via unanimous decision.

Ronda Rousey (-800) vs Miesha Tate (+550)

That brings us to the co-main event of the night. Anyone who's been paying attention knows that these two will not be sharing any champagne toasts next week. After a knee injury to Cat Zingano, Tate (13-4) stepped in to coach opposite Rousey (7-0) on this past season of The Ultimate Fighter. A few pranks and a lot of middle fingers later, we learned that sometimes time does not heal all wounds. The level of animosity between the two is the strongest it’s ever been and shows no signs of slowing down.

Despite her body of work, Ronda Rousey is still unproven in many ways. She’s thrown very few strikes and has spent relatively little time inside the cage during her MMA career. This is often mentioned as her greatest weakness, but it’s also her strength. We all know about the armbar, but we still haven’t seen how much Ronda Rousey can do. By no means is Rousey flawless, though. She’s put herself in bad positions (the fight with Carmouche being most notable), but it’s not likely that Miesha Tate can take advantage of that. In her last three fights (against Zingano, Julie Kedzie and Rousey), Tate has been pushed around. The key to beating Rousey lies in making her pay for her blind aggression. Tate may have learned something from their first fight, but it will only be enough to survive the first round. Rousey charges forward, clinches and locks up the armbar in the second.

Chris Weidman (+140) vs Anderson Silva (-160)

Time for the main event! The first fight between Chris Weidman (10-0) and Anderson Silva (33-5) at UFC 162 will go down as one of the most interesting moments in MMA history. It’s caused us to ask philosophical questions like, did Anderson Silva sabotage his legacy? Does Chris Weidman deserve more credit? “Could Jesus microwave a burrito so hot that even He Himself could not eat it?” Much like the Tootsie Roll Pop paradox, the world may never know. Luckily for fight fans, we only had to wait five months to put the issue to rest once and for all.

Much of the focus on their first fight has been spent analyzing Silva’s showboating and taunting. It may have been a factor, but it fails to account for Weidman’s ability to come out and immediately secure the takedown. The only reason they returned to their feet for the KO to occur was because Weidman attempted a leg lock and allowed Siva to return to his feet. Chris Weidman will go out there, score takedowns and control Silva for all five rounds. He’ll get the finish that Chael Sonnen was only two minutes away from earning. Weidman puts all the speculation to rest with a unanimous decision win.

Well that wraps up another Robert Burns-approved edition of the Downes Side. Follow me on Twitter@dannyboydownes. Also, don’t forget to post your own thoughts, confessions, diatribes and New Years Eve party favors on the page here. Let’s retire the whole NYE glasses thing, though. They just don’t work anymore.

[Beelzebubzy]

Downes picked brandao?

[raag]

all good

[Vaughany]

Yo anyone got a preferred proxy service to use to stream it from UFC.tv Germany?

just use a random stream, why do you want UFC.tv

[wagerjunkie]

times first match of prelim? 5:30 or 6?

[Jim_Gunn]

7 pm EST

[Vaughany]

Indeed. Mid-night for my English chums

[wagerjunkie]

this is what Meisha Tate is thinking about just hours before her fight? lols

Miesha Tate @MieshaTate 5m
Don't forget you can order #UFC168 on the @Xbox Live app on Xbox 360 #GetYours
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[raag]

heaps better quality

[shabang]

I'm on voelker and siyar...what do you guys think? Both of those fights have me a tad worried..

[wagerjunkie]

man Twitter is blowing up about Fight Pass.

question and this may be a full retard question..ha...nothing changes here right? as far as live events go? when they have them on Fight Pass and you have to subscribe to watch them, streaming sites will still have them free? same as them streaming ppv?

[shabang]

man Twitter is blowing up about Fight Pass.

question and this may be a full retard question..ha...nothing changes here right? as far as live events go? when they have them on Fight Pass and you have to subscribe to watch them, streaming sites will still have them free? same as them streaming ppv?

you're only confusing people with that talk....business as usual here

[Vaughany]