World Series of Fighting 4: Spong vs Deanda (August 10th)

[MD]

Main Card
Tyrone Spong vs. Angel DeAnda
Tyson Griffin vs. Gesias Cavalcante
Ray Sefo vs. Dave Huckaba
Marlon Moraes vs. Brandon Hempleman
Keon Caldwell vs. Nick Newell

Preliminary Card
Gerald Harris vs. Jorge Santiago
Antonio McKee vs. Lewis Gonzalez
Lew Polley vs. Hans Stringer
Jared Papazian vs. John Robles
Isaac Gutierrez vs. Victor Valenzuela

[MD]

Just started 'capping this today, figured I'd start a thread so we have somewhere to discuss.

If there's a line for that John Robles fight, I will fade him because his name reminds me of Andrew Robl. F-ck Andrew Robl.

[PunisherIND]

i know rey sefo is running this organization, but really, he's on the main card instead of santiago - harris?

[Sato]

Spong ITD
Sefo ITD. Huckaba is a garbage stand up fighter with no ground game like Sefo. Sefos ability to see the finer openings against someone that slow and bad----> Sefo KO/TKO
Griffin/JZ: I'd lean towards Griffin. It seems that both are done fighting at the highest level...but I could see Griffin getting the dec. depending on the line...Ill be in this or not.

[mmaed]

Id feel pretty good about betting marlon moraes and tyrone sponge. Sefo would make me a little nervous. He is of course a great kickboxer but he is 42 years old and coming in off a long layoff. Theres also a huge difference in mma experience.

[The iron sheik]

Predicting spong will be -zillion kabillion

[NunyaBidness]

If there's a line for that John Robles fight, I will fade him because his name reminds me of Andrew Robl. F-ck Andrew Robl.

Seriously, what a oyster. Did you ever see this hand?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct4S-5NlxAQ

I'm convinced that some people are just gifted with infinite luck.

[MD]

Seriously, what a oyster. Did you ever see this hand?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct4S-5NlxAQ

I'm convinced that some people are just gifted with infinite luck.

Andrew Robl is a luckbox, and a massive nit. The GoAT human being/poker player, Tony G, once spent an entire night calling him "Robl Cop". Can't make this shit up.

You ever see Elky play? He runs like the sun, possibly the luckiest poker player of all time, but he plays so magnificently that I can't dislike him for it.

[Ron_Paul_2012]

Id feel pretty good about betting marlon moraes and tyrone sponge. Sefo would make me a little nervous. He is of course a great kickboxer but he is 42 years old and coming in off a long layoff. Theres also a huge difference in mma experience.

I concur. I have seen all of Sefo's fights. He has looked very disappointing in MMA. I would not be surprised if he lost to Huckabum. I'm still looking into Hempleman. Santiago, Newell & Spong should win their matches.

[NunyaBidness]

Andrew Robl is a luckbox, and a massive nit. The GoAT human being/poker player, Tony G, once spent an entire night calling him "Robl Cop". Can't make this shit up.

You ever see Elky play? He runs like the sun, possibly the luckiest poker player of all time, but he plays so magnificently that I can't dislike him for it.

I've played with Elky. But I've never seen him on TV, so I don't know anything about his perception. He doesn't show a lot of hands. His tournament book is probably the best NLHE book out there, IMO.

[MD]

I've played with Elky. But I've never seen him on TV, so I don't know anything about his perception. He doesn't show a lot of hands. His tournament book is probably the best NLHE book out there, IMO.

Raiser's Edge? I've never read it but I've heard good things.

Guy is a prodigy, I'd consider him one of the most brilliant poker minds in the game's history. Phil Galfond has a way of explaining mindsets and thought processes in a way that people can understand fluently, and he gets much acclaim for that, but Elky might be on a different level as a poker thinker. Granted, they play different games, but still.

[On2TheNext1]

Raiser's Edge? I've never read it but I've heard good things.

Guy is a prodigy, I'd consider him one of the most brilliant poker minds in the game's history. Phil Galfond has a way of explaining mindsets and thought processes in a way that people can understand fluently, and he gets much acclaim for that, but Elky might be on a different level as a poker thinker. Granted, they play different games, but still.

Hahaha No.

[The iron sheik]

Elky used to play a mean starcraft game

[Educ8d Degener8]

[Das Jax]

Lines are out.

[Das Jax]

Predicting spong will be -zillion kabillion

Yup.

[sideloaded]

no JZ love? had to make a play on him. He has some slick subs, subbed out Rani Yaya and Tyson almost got armbarred by efrain who isnt a great guard player.

bet the under +180 both guys have weak chins

[sideloaded]

doing a double take, love that under 2.5 at +180 on tyson

[mirinquads]

I bet JZ at those odds as well, Didn't look too awful even under fire in his last fight, and kept the composure.

Taking a stab at the under as well

[sideloaded]

I bet JZ at those odds as well, Didn't look too awful even under fire in his last fight, and kept the composure.

Taking a stab at the under as well

Huge JZ fan from his days in japan. Watch the hustle show series on youtube. JZ is really a good guy and real dude. He's not old just got a lot of shots on the chin. So if he loses the under should hit.

[sideloaded]

Bushido, the only reason to care about MMA

[sideloaded]

nothing to do with the thread but god I love soccer stomps

[MD]

To be honest, I think Tyson takes a decision pretty often. I don't really see him KOing Cavalcante with any degree of consistency.

I think the line is set really well, though. No value on either side. F-cking Kalikas. <3

[sideloaded]

To be honest, I think Tyson takes a decision pretty often. I don't really see him KOing Cavalcante with any degree of consistency.

I think the line is set really well, though. No value on either side. F-cking Kalikas. <3

I have a hard time not seeing the value in JZ if this fight goes the distance. Given he is more skilled everywhere.

[mirinquads]

To be honest, I think Tyson takes a decision pretty often. I don't really see him KOing Cavalcante with any degree of consistency.

I think the line is set really well, though. No value on either side. F-cking Kalikas. <3

You think Tyson Griffin should be -300?

[MD]

I have a hard time not seeing the value in JZ if this fight goes the distance. Given he is more skilled everywhere.

I don't agree with you there. Griffin will have a big cardio edge, he's much more patient and efficient on the feet than he used to be, and his wrestling should be better.

[sideloaded]

I don't agree with you there. Griffin will have a big cardio edge, he's much more patient and efficient on the feet than he used to be, and his wrestling should be better.

JZ background IS wrestling. Tyson isnt so much better at wrestling than him that it's going to win him a decision. Cardio really comes down the the training camps which no one knows. No way on earth you can Say Griffin has a big cardio edge. Unless you got inside info no one else has.

[MD]

You think Tyson Griffin should be -300?

That's not how a line works.

[mmaed]

I bet JZ at those odds as well, Didn't look too awful even under fire in his last fight, and kept the composure.

Taking a stab at the under as well

Jz is tough to knock out and tough to submit. Tyson Griffin rarely submits anyone. I don't see TG stopping him. Maybe Gesias can catch him and knock him out but I think the fight most likely goes the distance.

[mmaed]

Nick Newell is the guy with one arm. He is the favorite as well.

[sideloaded]

Nick Newell is the guy with one arm. He is the favorite as well.

what is this?

[Das Jax]

Nick Newell is the guy with one arm. He is the favorite as well.

Holy crap, you're right! Dude's 9-0 as well... how can this be?

[MD]

Holy crap, you're right! Dude's 9-0 as well... how can this be?

I don't even know who's trolling who anymore.

[mmaed]

I don't even know who's trolling who anymore.

We're all trolling MD. All of us. All the time. Every time.

[PunisherIND]

I don't even know who's trolling who anymore.

lmao