Bellator 97: Chandler Vs Rickels (July 21, 2013)

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  • THE_LOCKSMITH
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    #1
    Bellator 97: Chandler Vs Rickels (July 21, 2013)
    MAIN CARD (Spike TV, 7 p.m. ET)
    Michael Chandler vs. David Rickels - for lightweight title
    Ben Askren vs. Andrey Koreshkov - for welterweight title
    Muhammed Lawal vs. Jacob Noe - Summer Series light-heavyweight tourney final
    Ryan Martinez vs. Vitaly Minakov - Summer Series heavyweight tourney final
    Jared Downing vs. Patricio Freire

    PRELIMINARY CARD (Spike.com, 6 p.m. ET)
    Will Brooks vs. Cris Leyva
    Rodrigo Lima vs. Rafael Silva - bantamweight tournament semifinal
    Frank Baca vs. Anthony Leone - bantamweight tournament semifinal
    Mike Barreras vs. Bubba Jenkins
    Keith Berry vs. Jeremy Kimball
    Shawn Bunch vs. Russell Wilson
    Richard Jacquez vs. Javier Palacios
    Felipe Chavez vs. Adrian Cruz
    Donald Sanchez vs. Cliff Wright

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  • Dwil125
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    #2
    stacked card, don't see any underdogs winning this time.
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    • Sato
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      • 07-10-12
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      #3
      Only props may be interesting. Other than that I dont see any juice in the ML's.

      Over 1,5 Lawal fight +140
      Over 2.5 Downing fight -215
      MAybe the under 4.5 for the Askren fight -105
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      • BIGDAY
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        • 02-17-10
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        #4
        Wrastlers rule.

        Unfortunately nothing of value.
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        • On2TheNext1
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          • 11-24-12
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          #5
          Chandler/Askren/Aldo starts 2rd - 5u to win 4u
          Chandler U4.5rd/Askren U4.5rd/Aldo starts 2rd - 1u to win 3.3u
          Chandler/Askren/Martinez - 1u to win 3.5u
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          • Thor4140
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            • 02-09-08
            • 22296

            #6
            July 31st brother Lock.
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            • THE_LOCKSMITH
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              • 08-25-08
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              #7
              Originally posted by Thor4140
              July 31st brother Lock.
              yea typo, can't edit the title
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              • Thor4140
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                • 02-09-08
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                #8
                Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
                yea typo, can't edit the title
                i give ya this one
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                • NunyaBidness
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                  • 07-26-09
                  • 9345

                  #9
                  Not sure who's pounding the Bubba Jenkins line. His opponent is a 4 time all american.


                  He did pretty good against his opponent here:

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4geQq9WGuFg


                  and here:

                  http://www.abqjournal.com/sports/531313sports01-20-07.htm
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                  • Dwil125
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                    #10
                    What?? Bellator released undercard lines
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                    • Dwil125
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                      #11
                      This over under for the brooks fight night have value.
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                      • NunyaBidness
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                        • 07-26-09
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Dwil125
                        This over under for the brooks fight night have value.
                        Which way do you like?
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                        • NunyaBidness
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                          • 07-26-09
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                          #13
                          Wow, tough to find tape on this Rafael Silva character. There are 4 brazilian nobody MMAers who have that name.
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                          • beermankirk
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                            • 11-17-09
                            • 1512

                            #14
                            This is what I was gonna parlay, before I saw u posted this already! Like it alot!

                            Chandler/Askren/Aldo starts 2rd - 5u to win 4u
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                            • Dwil125
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                              #15
                              over, I need to look up his opponent some more. If Will's opponent has any type of skill will is probably just going to use his wrestling to shut him down. I wasn't ready for these undercard lines to come out at all.
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                              • NunyaBidness
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                                • 07-26-09
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Dwil125
                                over, I need to look up his opponent some more. If Will's opponent has any type of skill will is probably just going to use his wrestling to shut him down. I wasn't ready for these undercard lines to come out at all.
                                I think I like the other way. In the tape I've seen Will gets his KOs from heavy GNP not in the standup. Watch the Riggs fight, Riggs gets him down, controls and smashes to the KO. Granted Riggs is a much bigger guy, but he's also way past his prime.
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                                • Ron_Paul_2012
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by beermankirk
                                  This is what I was gonna parlay, before I saw u posted this already! Like it alot!

                                  Chandler/Askren/Aldo starts 2rd - 5u to win 4u
                                  Nice parlay. I'll be shocked if it does not cash.
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                                  • Ron_Paul_2012
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Dwil125
                                    over, I need to look up his opponent some more. If Will's opponent has any type of skill will is probably just going to use his wrestling to shut him down. I wasn't ready for these undercard lines to come out at all.
                                    Have you seen the Brooks vs Kitaoka fight. Will has some mean GnP.
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                                    • On2TheNext1
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                                      • 11-24-12
                                      • 271

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                      Wow, tough to find tape on this Rafael Silva character. There are 4 brazilian nobody MMAers who have that name.
                                      If you search "Rafael Morcego" you'll get more accurate results.
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                                      • NunyaBidness
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by On2TheNext1
                                        If you search "Rafael Morcego" you'll get more accurate results.
                                        Good call.
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                                        • BIGDAY
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                                          • 02-17-10
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                                          #21
                                          Interested in seeing how Jenkins looks. Hope he makes it in MMA.
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                                          • rocky16
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                                            • 07-22-12
                                            • 1905

                                            #22
                                            1.5 Units on Koreshkov. Cash that my niqqas.
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                                            • BIGDAY
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by rocky16
                                              1.5 Units on Koreshkov. Cash that my niqqas.
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                                              • mmaed
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by rocky16
                                                1.5 Units on Koreshkov. Cash that my niqqas.
                                                Why do you see him winning?
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                                                • rocky16
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by mmaed
                                                  Why do you see him winning?
                                                  I see Andrey keeping distance and keeping his hands down preparing for a shot. Can keep his hands down because he'll have no fear of Askren's terrible standup. I think Koreshkov can pick Askren apart from distance and Askren will eventually shoot in and could take a huge shot. If this happens Koreshkoz has serious fight finishing instinct. If it gets past the 2nd round it will probably be all Askren in top position because Andrey has shown some cardio issues in the past. But I'm counting on Koreshkov landing something big. He's so much better on the feet.
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                                                  • mirinquads
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                                                    #26
                                                    Andrey is extremely good with lateral movement and keeping distance to prevent takedowns. Considering a play on him too at these odds.. I want him higher though.
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                                                    • rocky16
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by mirinquads
                                                      Andrey is extremely good with lateral movement and keeping distance to prevent takedowns. Considering a play on him too at these odds.. I want him higher though.
                                                      I locked it in +360. I like the value at those odds.
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                                                      • On2TheNext1
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                                                        • 11-24-12
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                                                        #28
                                                        I think people are looking for something that isn't there with Koreshkov. Perhaps it is because Askren IS such a flawed, one dimensional fighter who should, will eventually, be exposed, but Koreshkov isn't the assassin people make him out to be.
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                                                        • mmaed
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                                                          #29
                                                          His one dimension is pretty amazing though and Koreshkov is pretty shitty on the ground. Standing he is good. I think his only real path to victory is to knock out Askren. I think he is completely capable of doing that as well but I think Askren will be able to get him down fairly easily. His scrambling ability is insane. On top of that nobody has been able to knock out Askren so far and he has had quite a few fights. The big thing to me is how bad Koreshkov looked on the ground against Lyman Good. He had his back taken pretty easily and he looked really tired at the end of the third round. It will be almost eight months since he has fought and if Askren gets the takedowns he will be seriously wearing Koreshkov out. I bet the under 4.5 rounds on this because if it makes it to the third and fourth rounds it will be because Askren has been taking this kid down. I doubt we see a 5 round kickboxing match between these two. If Koreshkov has Askren on him for that long I think he will get tko'd or submitted.
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                                                          • On2TheNext1
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                                                            #30
                                                            I agree.

                                                            Also played the under in some parlays.

                                                            If we're gonna give Koreshkov the benefit of the doubt of improved/recently discovered tdd/defensive wrestling by virtue of having this much time to prepare or facing a one dimensional fighter, you almost have to give Askren the same in regards to what he's potentially picked up at Roufus Sport and facing someone equally one dimensional. I doubt either has improved enough to negate the other's strength. Just think Askren's wrestling is far superior to Koreshkov's striking.
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                                                            • mmaed
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                                                              #31
                                                              It's not just his wrestling, its his overall ground game. Askren is a brown belt in BJJ. Koreshkov hasn't shown to be very good on the ground and I'm assuming he hasn't really spent a huge amount of time training BJJ. Maybe I am wrong.
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                                                              • MD
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                                                                • 01-31-12
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by rocky16
                                                                1.5 Units on Koreshkov. Cash that my niqqas.
                                                                With you. Askren heavily overvalued.
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                                                                • rocky16
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by MD
                                                                  With you. Askren heavily overvalued.
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                                                                  • Grabaka
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by MD

                                                                    With you. Askren heavily overvalued.
                                                                    Originally posted by rocky16

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                                                                    1u on Koreshkov @ +330
                                                                    1u on Martinez @ +250
                                                                    1u on Jenkins vs Barreras O1.5 @ +200

                                                                    0.5u on Freire + Mo + Chandler + Watson vs Leites O2.5 + Connor + Vinny ITD + Faber + Pettis + Mendes + Mayweather KO or Dec
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                                                                    • BIGDAY
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Askren will expose Koreshkov on the ground rather easily.

                                                                      Koreshkov will be a fish out of the water when the fight gets there. And I have zero believe that this fight stays standing. Don't lose your shorts betting against Askren tonight fellas.
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