SBR Videos UFC 154 Preview with Nick Kalikas (BetDSI)

**v1y** · 11-12-12, 11:56 PM

Man I'm impressed with how well Loshak knows his stuff.

**BIGDAY** · 11-13-12, 01:08 PM

Loshak is a STUD!

Loshak is a MMA Sharp with his Hendricks selection.

**CarpeDime** · 11-13-12, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by BIGDAY

Loshak is a MMA Sharp with his Hendricks selection.

yes I suspect Nick got scared when I picked Hendricks because he wants the public on Kampmann

i sensed insincerity in his rejection of my analysis

fishy......now I'm liking it even more.......

**gabe** · 11-13-12, 01:29 PM

Nicolas "The Dickless" Kalikas, amateur MMA record 0-8-1

**Vaughany** · 11-13-12, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by CarpeDime

yes I suspect Nick got scared when I picked Hendricks because he wants the public on Kampmann

i sensed insincerity in his rejection of my analysis

fishy......now I'm liking it even more.......

haha

**BIGDAY** · 11-13-12, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by CarpeDime

yes I suspect Nick got scared when I picked Hendricks because he wants the public on Kampmann

i sensed insincerity in his rejection of my analysis

fishy......now I'm liking it even more.......

Placed er a while back at -130

I see it at -175 to -200

Pa Pa POUND the fukker!!!

**gabe** · 11-13-12, 03:18 PM

I'll be on Kampmann

**BIGDAY** · 11-13-12, 03:58 PM

You and the rest of the public gaber. Don't bury yourself.

**gabe** · 11-13-12, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by BIGDAY

You and the rest of the public gaber. Don't bury yourself.

lol from what i've seen, everyone is on hendricks, so idono why you think the "public" is on kampmann... public seems to be leaning hendricks, which is making me like kampmann.

**Russian Rocket** · 11-13-12, 04:49 PM

thanks for the videos...like to hear the analysis

**BIGDAY** · 11-13-12, 04:50 PM

Well hell then. I've been reading the opposite. GL pal

**Russian Rocket** · 11-13-12, 04:50 PM

BigDay it's about that time you make another monster parlay for this Saturday

**BIGDAY** · 11-13-12, 04:53 PM

Rocketeer, we'll see. Liking the December 8th card better.

**Vaughany** · 11-13-12, 04:55 PM

Hendricks line has gone from -121 to -145 on Pinnacle, and -130 to -145 on BM so in terms of betting public Hendricks has got the action. But in terms of people on forums and that it does seem majority like Kampmann to win. I noticed on the mmajunkie poll has Kampmann favoured as does the tapology predictions thing. MMAJunkie poll also has Lawlor favoured over Carmont as well.

Kind of thinking maybe I should max Kampmann now at +131 on pinnacle with hope of getting Hendricks closer to Evens just before fight time as I do think Kampmann might get the late action, but then if you look at the line history for Martin his odds by fight time have in last few fights ended up being better than opening odds. Against Ellenberger he opened at +145 and closed at +175. Against Alves opened at -115 and could get him at +140 by fight time. Against Story opened at +110 and available at +115 by fight time. Against Sanchez he opened and closed at pretty much same (+135/+136).

**Russian Rocket** · 11-13-12, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by BIGDAY

Rocketeer, we'll see. Liking the December 8th card better.

Totally agree, the Dec 8th card is going to be huge...can't wait to see BJ Penn return to the octagon.

**Rubber Guard** · 11-14-12, 10:43 AM

This Kampmann fight is just hard to predict. Kampmann has better MMA skills. But hard to bet him when he likes to get hit. And is facing a guy with lots of power and the ability to perhaps take the fight where he wants.

I think people sometimes read too much into last fights. Hendricks won a split that many felt he lost...but vs. Kos. Kampmann landed knees and took out Ellenberger.

I think the line is set pretty correctly. Just depends if you really like one guy or the other. I don't and will sit back and watch the best fight on the card. Kampmann is a better MMA fighter, but Hendricks power and Kampmann's defense is the X factor.

**gabe** · 11-14-12, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by BIGDAY

Well hell then. I've been reading the opposite. GL pal

kampmann went from -115 to +130, so it's safe to say the public is on hendricks.

**gabe** · 11-14-12, 11:13 AM

You think Lawlor will win?

I've got Carmont maxed at several books, will be pwnt if he loses.

**v1y** · 11-14-12, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

MMAJunkie poll also has Lawlor favoured over Carmont as well.

lmfao.

god casual fans are idiots.

**MeatWad** · 11-14-12, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by v1y

lmfao.

god casual fans are idiots.

Don't hate on casual fans, they are the fat that makes our steaks juicy.

**BIGDAY** · 11-14-12, 04:39 PM

Originally posted by gabe

kampmann went from -115 to +130, so it's safe to say the public is on hendricks.

Well Sh!t. I hate it when the public backs wrastlers.

Loved it when people hated the wrestlers so much that all the money would roll in on the strikers.
There was a day when this type of fight Hedricks would be a +150. Days are gone. Im still backing Hendricks as I think his cardio will be there through the fight unlike Ellenberger. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Hendricks gets the KO in the first or second though.

GL

**gabe** · 11-14-12, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by BIGDAY

Well Sh!t. I hate it when the public backs wrastlers.

Loved it when people hated the wrestlers so much that all the money would roll in on the strikers.
There was a day when this type of fight Hedricks would be a +150. Days are gone. Im still backing Hendricks as I think his cardio will be there through the fight unlike Ellenberger. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Hendricks gets the KO in the first or second though.

GL

When was the last time Hendricks tried to wrestle? I think if anyone implements wrestling, it will be Kampmann.

**BIGDAY** · 11-14-12, 07:28 PM

Very true. If anything he uses his wrestling to keep the fight standing.

Liking this. As I watch more of Kampman he drops his gloves a lot.

**NunyaBidness** · 11-14-12, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by gabe

kampmann went from -115 to +130, so it's safe to say the public is on hendricks.

Lol. Please tell us more about your line movement theories.

**gabe** · 11-15-12, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Lol. Please tell us more about your line movement theories.

To tell you more implies I've told you anything at all.

Juice rising on a fighter = public betting fighter

You're welcome. Though, that is not really a theory. Drop your math book and grab a dictionary, Donnie Aspergers.

MD · 11-15-12, 01:25 AM

Originally posted by gabe

Juice rising on a fighter = public betting fighter

You're welcome. Though, that is not really a theory. Drop your math book and grab a dictionary, Donnie Aspergers.

Actually, buddy, I can disprove this post without a math book or a dictionary, although either would suffice. Have a simple google search, instead.

"Vigorish, or simply the vig, also known as juice, the cut or the take, is the amount charged by a bookmaker, or bookie, for his services."

Vigorish - Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigorish

I hope you can now see why saying the statement "juice rising on a fighter = public betting fighter" is "not really a theory" is incorrect. (hint: the word you're looking for isn't "juice".)

I wouldn't normally call you on this, but you're being a bit of a dick. So is Nunya, though, in your defence, but I'd call him on the same thing if I thought he was wrong.

**NunyaBidness** · 11-15-12, 01:33 AM

Originally posted by gabe

To tell you more implies I've told you anything at all.

Juice rising on a fighter = public betting fighter

You're welcome. Though, that is not really a theory. Drop your math book and grab a dictionary, Donnie Aspergers.

You really don't understand line movement whatsoever.

Compare early line movement to sites like tapology. Then look how late movement works. Reassess your ideas of "public" money.

If you want to get deeper into it, we could talk about efficient markets and how multiple 'dumb' bets can be more efficient that a single smart one.

Finally, you Sir, are the very DEFINITION of square money. Keep making those mega-favorite parlays.

**NunyaBidness** · 11-15-12, 01:35 AM

Originally posted by MD

Actually, buddy, I can disprove this post without a math book or a dictionary, although either would suffice. Have a simple google search, instead.

"Vigorish, or simply the vig, also known as juice, the cut or the take, is the amount charged by a bookmaker, or bookie, for his services."

Vigorish - Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigorish

I hope you can now see why saying the statement "juice rising on a fighter = public betting fighter" is "not really a theory" is incorrect. (hint: the word you're looking for isn't "juice".)

I wouldn't normally call you on this, but you're being a bit of a dick. So is Nunya, though, in your defence, but I'd call him on the same thing if I thought he was wrong.

After this post, you're being a bit of a dick too. And a word fascist. Gabe isn't very smart, so we let him slide when he doesn't use the right words for things. . .

Did you know Armenian has 18 different words for 'hairy'?

MD · 11-15-12, 01:56 AM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

After this post, you're being a bit of a dick too. And a word fascist. Gabe isn't very smart, so we let him slide when he doesn't use the right words for things. . .

Did you know Armenian has 18 different words for 'hairy'?

I'm certainly being a dick, no doubt about it. If that's the biggest dick move I pull in the next twenty minutes, though, I'm off my game.

Also, "I'm not very smart" doesn't cover anyone who calls people stupid seemingly every few minutes on the forum. E-drama's only good when it's amusing, and as much as I like Gabe's arguments with guys like DeFacto, when he's arguing with people who will just ignore him or try to use logic against him, it leads to some of the most convoluted and irritating pissing matches imaginable.

**NunyaBidness** · 11-15-12, 02:13 AM

Agreed, but he's been doing it so long, and is so immune to criticism that it's not even worth it to try.

I think he's a biproduct of the new American way. An average well meaning kid who was told by the schools, his parents, and the tv that he was the brightest, greatest boy alive. If he isn't successful at something it's not his fault, he's the smartest one around, he knows because Mommy and GI Joe told him so.

No one told his generation that someone has to mop the floors, and somebody has to eat the day old bread. They're all going to be the world's most important rock star, every last one of them.

**Vaughany** · 11-15-12, 03:51 AM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

After this post, you're being a bit of a dick too. And a word fascist. Gabe isn't very smart, so we let him slide when he doesn't use the right words for things. . .

Did you know Armenian has 18 different words for 'hairy'?

**Crassus** · 11-15-12, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Agreed, but he's been doing it so long, and is so immune to criticism that it's not even worth it to try.

I think he's a biproduct of the new American way. An average well meaning kid who was told by the schools, his parents, and the tv that he was the brightest, greatest boy alive. If he isn't successful at something it's not his fault, he's the smartest one around, he knows because Mommy and GI Joe told him so.

No one told his generation that someone has to mop the floors, and somebody has to eat the day old bread. They're all going to be the world's most important rock star, every last one of them.

You grumpy old man haha

**gabe** · 11-15-12, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

You really don't understand line movement whatsoever.

Compare early line movement to sites like tapology. Then look how late movement works. Reassess your ideas of "public" money.

If you want to get deeper into it, we could talk about efficient markets and how multiple 'dumb' bets can be more efficient that a single smart one.

Finally, you Sir, are the very DEFINITION of square money. Keep making those mega-favorite parlays.

I often have dogs in my parlays, you momo.

Keep coming here to feed off my thoughts. You know nothing about capping MMA. Stick to your politics, and be appreciative of my insight.

Those parlays you tell me to keep making... I've been hitting them CONSISTENTLY lmao so why would I stop? Such a mook. You take something as simple as public betting and moving a line and try to make it sound complicated. You continue to show signs of your aspergers. You can't even communicate like a person, you have to try to complicate things and sound robot-esque.

You thought Kyle Kingsbury over Jimi Manuwa was a good play... lol... you really do not know sh!t when it comes to capping MMA, that really is the only reason you come here, to find out what plays guys who know their shit like.

Keep maxing your $20 bets 100 times a day, you pathetic fuhg. I wouldn't waste my time betting if I had to stoop that low. Especially when most of the bets you make are awful. You're lucky you do well in other areas. Also lucky you have others here who you tail, which I'm certain is the reason you're here. You're welcome for all the money I've helped you make.

**gabe** · 11-15-12, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by MD

Actually, buddy, I can disprove this post without a math book or a dictionary, although either would suffice. Have a simple google search, instead.

"Vigorish, or simply the vig, also known as juice, the cut or the take, is the amount charged by a bookmaker, or bookie, for his services."

Vigorish - Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigorish

I hope you can now see why saying the statement "juice rising on a fighter = public betting fighter" is "not really a theory" is incorrect. (hint: the word you're looking for isn't "juice".)

I wouldn't normally call you on this, but you're being a bit of a dick. So is Nunya, though, in your defence, but I'd call him on the same thing if I thought he was wrong.

You're saying if Jon Jones is -400 day before a fight, and -750 minutes before the fight, that means the public is NOT betting Jon Jones?

I was saying it means it is. You are saying I'm wrong. Ok.