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  • freelee
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 02-02-10
    • 751

    #7631
    Originally posted by milwaukee mike
    well people were holding crypto there (and cash), and they had their own ftx token, and they were the biggest advertiser of investing in crypto, right down to the mlb umpires wearing FTX patches... so yes, ftx, celsius, blockfi, luna/terra, voyager, even back to mt. gox, those have more than "nothing" to do with bitcoin/crypto
    if you were at a miami heat game (FTX arena) with a wife/girlfriend/friend, and they said "what is FTX"... what would your answer be? would you say FTX is a company that has nothing to do with bitcoin or cryptocurrency LOLOLOL
    It was in response to Jibby saying he didn't trust crypto anymore after FTX. Not being able to trust a crypto exchange has nothing to do with trust in Bitcoin. You can literally hold all of your bitcoin in your own head there's no need to trust a crypto exchange and if you do and it goes belly up you can't blame that on Bitcoin. It would be like blaming fiat currency for what Bernie Madoff did.
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    • DiggityDaggityDo
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 11-30-08
      • 81454

      #7632
      "Dad, can I borrow $10 worth of bitcoin?"

      "Borrow $11.62? ... What the hell do you need $7.45 of bitcoin for?"





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      • homie1975
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 12-24-13
        • 15448

        #7633
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        • raiders72001
          Senior Member
          • 08-10-05
          • 11033

          #7634
          Metaverse tokens still have a long ways to go to fully recover but they've had a good 30 days.

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          • bigtymer56
            SBR MVP
            • 07-31-12
            • 4742

            #7635
            I mean pretty much everything has had a great 30 days.

            Personally, looking at the coins I have that havent outperformed BTC and ETH in this time frame. Unless they have some major upgrade coming up shortly, probably gonna dump'em. As much as I may not like it, gotta keep reminding myself this market is mainly based on hype. Doesnt matter how cool you think a project is if noone else gives a dam about it.
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            • homie1975
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-24-13
              • 15448

              #7636
              Originally posted by bigtymer56
              I mean pretty much everything has had a great 30 days.

              Personally, looking at the coins I have that havent outperformed BTC and ETH in this time frame. Unless they have some major upgrade coming up shortly, probably gonna dump'em. As much as I may not like it, gotta keep reminding myself this market is mainly based on hype. Doesnt matter how cool you think a project is if noone else gives a dam about it.
              this is exactly what i was going to say

              all boats are rising with the tide..
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              • raiders72001
                Senior Member
                • 08-10-05
                • 11033

                #7637
                It's like any bull run. Everything goes up, the key is finding the right sectors. Last one was DeFi, the one before was privacy coins.

                The Ripple case is huge.
                Last edited by raiders72001; 02-02-23, 01:47 PM.
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                • Arky
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-09-11
                  • 1093

                  #7638
                  Originally posted by raiders72001
                  ...
                  The Ripple case is huge.
                  That's an interesting one. Ripple/XRP is considered the "banker's coin" yet they are fighting the SEC. Those two - the bankers and SEC - are usually in bed together....

                  Swapped all my XRP for Polkadot (ugh) a long time ago but rooting for XRP on this one... What's good for one crypto is good for all...
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                  • shadymcgrady
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-27-12
                    • 10036

                    #7639
                    Flip the script once ripple beats the sec in court. Garlinghouse is an attention whore and has/will stop at nothing to better his project at the expense of bigger names like BTC or eth.

                    Once the case is done, ripple/garlinghouse will use the momentum to go after btc along with the banks as their interests will be aligned. Huge stable coin war on the horizon
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                    • ChuckyTheGoat
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 04-04-11
                      • 36783

                      #7640
                      Props to guys like Raiders/Arky who can keep up with these Alt-coins.

                      My knowledge is narrower and possibly dated. What i do know is that the USD is becoming less useful on monetary transactions.

                      Ask anyone who uses BTC for transactions? How nice is to go thru with the confirmation that shows up on the address?

                      I read about more countries making Gold coins. I read about more governments accepting BTC as payment. I know this thread is focused on Bitcoin...but I think there a broader angle that ties to "What is money?"
                      Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                      • raiders72001
                        Senior Member
                        • 08-10-05
                        • 11033

                        #7641
                        Originally posted by raiders72001
                        With all the talk of ChatGPT and AI, some tokens in that sector with hit. Artificial Intelligence of Things will be big. Learning devices talking with each other. Although, I'm not sure which tokens are the best to buy.
                        AI
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                        • homie1975
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 12-24-13
                          • 15448

                          #7642
                          Raiders where do you see the next floor of support?

                          looks like $23,500 to me before she moves to support level $25,000
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                          • raiders72001
                            Senior Member
                            • 08-10-05
                            • 11033

                            #7643
                            Originally posted by homie1975
                            Raiders where do you see the next floor of support?

                            looks like $23,500 to me before she moves to support level $25,000
                            Wish I knew. The only thing I feel great about is a $100k BTC minimum this run.
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                            • homie1975
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-24-13
                              • 15448

                              #7644
                              Originally posted by raiders72001
                              Wish I knew. The only thing I feel great about is a $100k BTC minimum this run.
                              long long long way to go IMO

                              we do not get BTC 100K imo until Nasdaq reaches at or near ATH of $16,000 from late 2021
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                              • Optional
                                Administrator
                                • 06-10-10
                                • 60760

                                #7645
                                Originally posted by Optional
                                My nephew has done well with crypto.

                                He is recommending me to buy some RedFox RFOX

                                Anyone with any insight here?
                                Originally posted by homie1975
                                Rfox (RFOX) Overview
                                Bullish Rfox (RFOX) price predictions range between $0.042708 and $0.080671 by 2030. Market analysts believe RFOX could reach $0.033218 by 2025. Bearish Rfox market price prediction for 2023 is $0.007593.
                                It was $0.013 10 days ago when we posted this.

                                Topped $0.021 today.


                                Wonder what my nephew knew/saw in this. Will have to ask him.
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                                • shadymcgrady
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 02-27-12
                                  • 10036

                                  #7646
                                  Could this be the bull cycle where eth finally surpasses BTC in dominance?
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                                  • ChuckyTheGoat
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 04-04-11
                                    • 36783

                                    #7647
                                    Is BTC price now a proxy to Silver price?

                                    BTC = 22,500

                                    Silver (oz) = $22.41

                                    1000 oz Silver = 1.000 BTC

                                    Which one will be higher on 12/31/2023?
                                    Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                    • Optional
                                      Administrator
                                      • 06-10-10
                                      • 60760

                                      #7648
                                      You can have the 1000oz of Silver and I'll take 1btc
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                                      • ChuckyTheGoat
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 04-04-11
                                        • 36783

                                        #7649
                                        Originally posted by Optional
                                        You can have the 1000oz of Silver and I'll take 1btc

                                        Nice, Opti. Hope it's a good 2023 for us.
                                        Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                        • themike78
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 07-01-13
                                          • 4873

                                          #7650
                                          Huge loss for bitcoin today. Tommorow morning it will be worth about 3 dollars.
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                                          • Optional
                                            Administrator
                                            • 06-10-10
                                            • 60760

                                            #7651
                                            Nice, back in buying range under 23k
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                                            • raiders72001
                                              Senior Member
                                              • 08-10-05
                                              • 11033

                                              #7652
                                              SEC fined Kraken $30m for staking. Coinbase says the SEC may ban all staking for retail investors in the US. That's crazy since all PoS needs staking.
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                                              • Maikiti
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 02-06-23
                                                • 10

                                                #7653
                                                Dip is before pump
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                                                • Arky
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-09-11
                                                  • 1093

                                                  #7654
                                                  Originally posted by raiders72001
                                                  SEC fined Kraken $30m for staking. Coinbase says the SEC may ban all staking for retail investors in the US. That's crazy since all PoS needs staking.
                                                  Yep, Kraken will have to stop implementing their centralized staking service. Pretty sure they (SEC) can't touch defi/onchain staking...

                                                  Just another example of the ignorance/greed of the "regulators". They have no idea what they are doing with crypto and just making it up as they go. "We can't figure out how to get a piece of the action so we'll just fine you"....

                                                  Omar, aka "Crypt0" had some thoughts on the subject (about 35 minutes if you have nothing better to do).

                                                  Edit: LocalBitcoins going out of business - also covered in the above video.
                                                  Last edited by Arky; 02-10-23, 02:22 PM.
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                                                  • Optional
                                                    Administrator
                                                    • 06-10-10
                                                    • 60760

                                                    #7655
                                                    Originally posted by raiders72001
                                                    SEC fined Kraken $30m for staking. Coinbase says the SEC may ban all staking for retail investors in the US. That's crazy since all PoS needs staking.
                                                    Originally posted by Arky

                                                    Yep, Kraken will have to stop implementing their centralized staking service. Pretty sure they (SEC) can't touch defi/onchain staking...

                                                    Just another example of the ignorance/greed of the "regulators". They have no idea what they are doing with crypto and just making it up as they go. "We can't figure out how to get a piece of the action so we'll just fine you"....

                                                    Omar, aka "Crypt0" had some thoughts on the subject (about 35 minutes if you have nothing better to do).

                                                    Edit: LocalBitcoins going out of business - also covered in the above video.
                                                    Disagree. Great move to squash this wild west market that looks like a weak point for crypto investors interested in long term gains and eventual stability.

                                                    There is a good reason you do not see every Tom, Dick and Harry offering the same type of staking service outside crypto. It's super dodgy and super risky and super open to exploitation.

                                                    Stable Coins are hopefully the next market segment smashed. Nott hat they are a bad idea, just that people do bad things with them.
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                                                    • raiders72001
                                                      Senior Member
                                                      • 08-10-05
                                                      • 11033

                                                      #7656
                                                      Originally posted by Optional
                                                      Disagree. Great move to squash this wild west market that looks like a weak point for crypto investors interested in long term gains and eventual stability.

                                                      There is a good reason you do not see every Tom, Dick and Harry offering the same type of staking service outside crypto. It's super dodgy and super risky and super open to exploitation.

                                                      Stable Coins are hopefully the next market segment smashed. Nott hat they are a bad idea, just that people do bad things with them.
                                                      ADA is safe since you can stake and still hold the keys if wanted.
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                                                      • Optional
                                                        Administrator
                                                        • 06-10-10
                                                        • 60760

                                                        #7657
                                                        Originally posted by raiders72001
                                                        ADA is safe since you can stake and still hold the keys if wanted.



                                                        But honestly, I would be surprised if there is any financial system that can work with unsecured investors having the ability to withdraw their investment instead of losing it if the investment goes bad.

                                                        If that's the promise, it makes less logical sense than CryptoZoo. Ponzi style promises.
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                                                        • raiders72001
                                                          Senior Member
                                                          • 08-10-05
                                                          • 11033

                                                          #7658
                                                          Originally posted by Optional



                                                          But honestly, I would be surprised if there is any financial system that can work with unsecured investors having the ability to withdraw their investment instead of losing it if the investment goes bad.

                                                          If that's the promise, it makes less logical sense than CryptoZoo. Ponzi style promises.
                                                          Some regulation will be good. But the SEC has to stop getting involved until they write the rules on crypto.
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                                                          • Arky
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-09-11
                                                            • 1093

                                                            #7659
                                                            It's risk/reward. Frankly, I prefer the wild west but too many are not ready to be their own bank. When you stake/custody to a centralized exchange, you're giving that up. As mentioned, there are ways to stake and still be able to hold the keys. There are ways to stake and not be subject to a lockup period. When the government is invited in, the over-reach will begin in short order....

                                                            Crypto.com recently nerfed their staking rewards again. They are obviously doing what they need to do but it is just not worth it (staking) with them anymore, IMHO. About 95% of my crypto is in my own wallets right now.

                                                            I did a calculation on staking my Ethereum at 5-6%. My value for a year's worth of staking is the same as if Ethereum goes up about $100. It's just about the same "earnings". Let's see....stake for a year and give up my keys or wait for Ethereum to go up $100? Of course, with staking you get more coins but it is only 5-6% of your stash. Is it worth staking 20 Eth for a year to earn 1 Eth? I opted to stop staking and hodl. Not worth it IMO, but I may revisit this after the Shanghai upgrade.
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                                                            • ChuckyTheGoat
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 04-04-11
                                                              • 36783

                                                              #7660
                                                              Originally posted by Optional
                                                              Nice, back in buying range under 23k
                                                              Opti, another great Australian band. Great clip:

                                                              Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                              • Optional
                                                                Administrator
                                                                • 06-10-10
                                                                • 60760

                                                                #7661
                                                                Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                                                Opti, another great Australian band. Great clip:

                                                                I don't recognize the song




                                                                Want some Aussie music?

                                                                Click here...




                                                                TISM - (He'll Never Be An) Ol' Man River (I'm On The Drug That Killed River Phoenix).

                                                                I'm on the drug,
                                                                I'm on the drug,
                                                                I'm on the drug that killed River Phoenix*.

                                                                I saw his body thrashing round.
                                                                I saw his pulse rate going down.
                                                                I saw him in convulsive throes.
                                                                I said "I'll have one of those."

                                                                Hillary** had,
                                                                Hillary had,
                                                                Hillary had it in his veins.

                                                                Hillary had Everest in his veins;
                                                                Armstrong*** did moon, was not the same;
                                                                Heroes explore to give us hope;
                                                                River pushed back the envelope.

                                                                Drank the slab,
                                                                Drank the slab,
                                                                Drank the slab that Bon Scott**** drunk.

                                                                I drank the slab that Bon Scott drunk;
                                                                I injected some of Hendrix's***** junk;
                                                                I booked a seat on Lynyrd Skynyrd's******plane;
                                                                Mama Cass's sandwich?******* Ate the same.

                                                                Now I'm bored,
                                                                Now I'm bored,
                                                                Now I'm bored there's no stopping.

                                                                Now I'm bored and there's no stopping;
                                                                I need another celeb to fill a coffin;
                                                                Where'll I get my next drug action?
                                                                Odds on it'll be Michael Jackson********.

                                                                I'm on the drug,
                                                                I'm on the drug,
                                                                I'm on the drug that killed River Phoenix.
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                                                                • ChuckyTheGoat
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 04-04-11
                                                                  • 36783

                                                                  #7662
                                                                  Song was "Man on Your Mind" by Little River Band.
                                                                  Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                                  • ChuckyTheGoat
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 04-04-11
                                                                    • 36783

                                                                    #7663
                                                                    Pretty good, Opti. Midnight Oil is still my favorite:

                                                                    Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                                    • Optional
                                                                      Administrator
                                                                      • 06-10-10
                                                                      • 60760

                                                                      #7664
                                                                      Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                                                      Song was "Man on Your Mind" by Little River Band.
                                                                      Ah, knew I recognized the voice.


                                                                      I was way more into guitar bands and kind of punky stuff in the 80s/90s. That TISM song was designed to bait outrage from the media and celeb obsessed types, and was meant to be an anti-celeb-culture parody mocking those obsessed with their life/deaths. Last line was a true prediction before he died btw.
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                                                                      • Otters27
                                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                        • 07-14-07
                                                                        • 30749

                                                                        #7665
                                                                        Need quantum AI compatible crypto.

                                                                        Is there anything out there?
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