Bitcoin Price Tracking & Discussion -- 2025

[homie1975]

I don't care what people think of Trump or what political party that they support. The best think for crypto is to get a clean sweep for the Republican party the next US election.

the two high points for Crypto have happened under Biden though (Nov 2021 and March 2024)

[raiders72001]

https://twitter.com/peruvian_bull/st...20167141318860

Long tweet from "Peruvian Bull" (edited):

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Attacks on Bitcoin have escalated, first with Feds arresting the developers of Samourai Wallet. Next Phoenix Wallet pulls their app from Appstore, and now DTCC is assigning 100% haircut to all crypto assets.

They're coming for the non-KYC wallets first. Then the nodes. Then self-custody.

Your privacy is at stake. Your future is at stake.

The truth is, they depend on us to keep the whole charade going. We man the barricades of the dying fiat monetary system. Without us working for their money, they have nothing to control us with.

"Look, the people you are after are the people you depend on. We cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls, we drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Do not... (penetrate) with us." -Tyler Durden

I don't care what people think of Trump or what political party that they support. The best think for crypto is to get a clean sweep for the Republican party the next US election.

[Arky]

https://twitter.com/peruvian_bull/status/1784020167141318860

Long tweet from "Peruvian Bull" (edited):

"...............................

Attacks on Bitcoin have escalated, first with Feds arresting the developers of Samourai Wallet. Next Phoenix Wallet pulls their app from Appstore, and now DTCC is assigning 100% haircut to all crypto assets.

They're coming for the non-KYC wallets first. Then the nodes. Then self-custody.

Your privacy is at stake. Your future is at stake.

The truth is, they depend on us to keep the whole charade going. We man the barricades of the dying fiat monetary system. Without us working for their money, they have nothing to control us with.

"Look, the people you are after are the people you depend on. We cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls, we drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Do not... (penetrate) with us." -Tyler Durden

[biggie12]

what was the outcome?

they eventually refunded after regrading like 5 times.

Think im moving to tg casino they use same sportsbook provider

[Arky]

SEC sent out a Wells Notice to Consensys (Metamask) meaning they were getting ready to sue Metamask. Metamask beat them to it and filed a lawsuit against the SEC. Metamask wants the court to rule that ETH is a non-security. This will be an important decision since the US is trying to ban all exchanges not requiring KYC. They may start going after every DEX.

Here's more info on that (from the CyptoCompare newsletter):

Consensys Sues SEC Over Ethereum Classification

"Ethereum software developer Consensys has sued the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), fighting against what the firm called an “unlawful seizure of authority” over ETH.

The lawsuit, filed in the United States District Court for the Northern District of Texas, seeks a definitive ruling on whether ETH is a security and aims to prevent the SEC from taking enforcement action against Consensys' MetaMask wallet’s Swaps or Staking functions, wanting a federal court to deem its staking service does not violate securities laws.

Consensys contends that MetaMask is “simply an interface” that "neither holds customers' digital assets nor carries out any transaction functions," thus not functioning as a broker under federal securities law.

The lawsuit further claims that the regulator’s stance contradicts its own past statements, citing former SEC Director Bill Hinman's 2018 speech classifying Ethereum as a commodity. Additionally, Consensys argues that the SEC is encroaching on the territory of the Commodities Futures Trading Commission (CFTC), which oversees derivatives tied to Ether.

Consensys argues it “built its business against the backdrop of this regulatory consensus,” and said the SEC’s actions “violate the Constitutional requirement of fair notice under the Due Process Clause.”

It adds that the “SEC’s unlawful seizure of authority over ETH would spell disaster for the Ethereum network, and for Consensys,” before leaning on the “major questions doctrine,” a Supreme Court ruling barring federal regulators from dramatically exceeding the scope of their mandates."

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I'm hearing rumors of SEC lawyers getting out, i.e. quitting. Who knows, perhaps they have a shred of ethics or maybe they are tired of trying to make bogus charges stick.

The war on crypto is ramping up....

[raiders72001]

SEC sent out a Wells Notice to Consensys (Metamask) meaning they were getting ready to sue Metamask. Metamask beat them to it and filed a lawsuit against the SEC. Metamask wants the court to rule that ETH is a non-security. This will be an important decision since the US is trying to ban all exchanges not requiring KYC. They may start going after every DEX.

[raiders72001]

$1.3b USDC transferred to Coinbase. We could be in for a huge weekend.

[raiders72001]

think rollbit finally got me raiders. Took jays for 5.5k in the 5th at +200 and they called the game after rain delay marked me down as a loss but there rules clearly state interupted games not continuing same day are voided.

nevermind refunded

and now rhey went ahead and graded it a loss again. penetrate sakes site is garbage.

what was the outcome?

[biggie12]

think rollbit finally got me raiders. Took jays for 5.5k in the 5th at +200 and they called the game after rain delay marked me down as a loss but there rules clearly state interupted games not continuing same day are voided.

nevermind refunded

and now rhey went ahead and graded it a loss again. penetrate sakes site is garbage.

[raiders72001]

Life changing tokens will be in there. Have to go below the current top 200. Or just ML parlay fading the WSox the next 20 games.

WSox won 1 game after this post but have now lost 7 in a row.

[Arky]

Sorry to sound so pessimistic, but you wish.

Fink gets to choose the technologies/the blockchains with most upside, like Bitcoin and Ethereum, and create products based on them, as they please. If they want an ETF approved, they'll pay the lobbyists and get it done. They have the resources to do what's in the best interest of their investors.

If you disagree, Dubai will certainly be happy to grant you a passport. But thinking that Blackrock doesn't get to make the rules, to me, is just delusional.

Oh, I get it. They want centralization just like the corrupt system they represent and come from. It's going to be a little harder to do with crypto, IMO- besides people that are in it for the money, there's a huge portion that's in it for the self sovereignty and freedom from the legacy system. Decentralized/no KYC exchanges, privacy coins, hardware wallets- it's going to be hard to outlaw/regulate all of that..

Part of the problem is those who just give in and bend the knee....

[Igor_1965]

Lark Davis covered some of this in one his latest videos. Someone mentioned in the comments this may be only for the ultra rich but if it passes, you can bet it will trickle down to the little guy eventually.

As it stands now, if I'm reading it correctly, 15% is the going rate for long term capital gains. This is good for up to $518K. That's not too terribly bad (if you're going to play their game). I'm going to check with my CPA but I believe this is accurate.

https://smartasset.com/taxes/2021-capital-gains-tax-rates

As for the Samurai guys, man, they are just software devs. Coders. Someone needs to take a stand against the out-of-control DOJ and what they are doing to crypto. The USA gets more tryannical by the day....

Blackrock is talking like they want to get a little more involved in crypto and Fink is pushing for a crypto system with digital ID.... Uh, no. They can join the party but they don't get to make the rules...

Sorry to sound so pessimistic, but you wish.

Fink gets to choose the technologies/the blockchains with most upside, like Bitcoin and Ethereum, and create products based on them, as they please. If they want an ETF approved, they'll pay the lobbyists and get it done. They have the resources to do what's in the best interest of their investors.

If you disagree, Dubai will certainly be happy to grant you a passport. But thinking that Blackrock doesn't get to make the rules, to me, is just delusional.

[Arky]

Samouria Wallet, a bitcoin mixer, founders arrested. Biden wants an unrealized capital gains tax of 25% and a 45% capital gains tax. Taxing unrealized gains forces you to sell to pay your taxes. A lot of crypto people from the US will move to Dubai or Puerto Rico. I'll move if unrealized is passed. IRS is now using AI to look into our bank accounts without a warrant.

All that said, I agree with homie in that the only thing that will stop this run is WWIII. The rest are hiccups.

Lark Davis covered some of this in one his latest videos. Someone mentioned in the comments this may be only for the ultra rich but if it passes, you can bet it will trickle down to the little guy eventually.

As it stands now, if I'm reading it correctly, 15% is the going rate for long term capital gains. This is good for up to $518K. That's not too terribly bad (if you're going to play their game). I'm going to check with my CPA but I believe this is accurate.

https://smartasset.com/taxes/2021-capital-gains-tax-rates

As for the Samurai guys, man, they are just software devs. Coders. Someone needs to take a stand against the out-of-control DOJ and what they are doing to crypto. The USA gets more tryannical by the day....

Blackrock is talking like they want to get a little more involved in crypto and Fink is pushing for a crypto system with digital ID.... Uh, no. They can join the party but they don't get to make the rules...

[raiders72001]

Samouria Wallet, a bitcoin mixer, founders arrested. Biden wants an unrealized capital gains tax of 25% and a 45% capital gains tax. Taxing unrealized gains forces you to sell to pay your taxes. A lot of crypto people from the US will move to Dubai or Puerto Rico. I'll move if unrealized is passed. IRS is now using AI to look into our bank accounts without a warrant.

All that said, I agree with homie in that the only thing that will stop this run is WWIII. The rest are hiccups.

[homie1975]

provided no reply from Iran on the Isfahan attack then we should find a BTC floor at ~$65K and then it is up to Big Tech earnings starting this week to get us a a leg up from here or perhaps the other way

[captrobey]

The withdrawal method can really be anything as the book is sending it back to you and has to deal with the fees. Most books make you cashout the same way you deposited, so many times you won't have an option but some allow you to withdraw a different method from your deposit.

The big thing is the deposit method when sending to books and Bitcoin is rarely, if ever, the cheapest/fastest option for that.

I am good with LC then as it seemed to be pretty decent only used that twice now. I remember a ways back you guys on here were talking about Shiba i think it was so for the hell of it i deposited like $200 and i didnt catch it when it really skyrocketed but i did make like a $400 profit i think it was it was .

[JAKEPEAVY21]

I thought it was an error at first so logged out and in then came on here looking for answers glad i did. Yea i transferred that to Litcoin and went through lightning fast way better price same procedure sending it so i guess i will use that for a withdraw assuming it is allowed

The withdrawal method can really be anything as the book is sending it back to you and has to deal with the fees. Most books make you cashout the same way you deposited, so many times you won't have an option but some allow you to withdraw a different method from your deposit.

The big thing is the deposit method when sending to books and Bitcoin is rarely, if ever, the cheapest/fastest option for that.

[captrobey]

I looked around. People were paying $89 and more. Sometimes fees are cheaper if you do transfers off hours in the US, middle of the night.

I use Litecoin like 90% of the time when depositing offshore...dirt cheap fees and very fast

I thought it was an error at first so logged out and in then came on here looking for answers glad i did. Yea i transferred that to Litcoin and went through lightning fast way better price same procedure sending it so i guess i will use that for a withdraw assuming it is allowed

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Ok so i converted it to Litcoin i will try that and it looks way better with fees

I use Litecoin like 90% of the time when depositing offshore...dirt cheap fees and very fast

[raiders72001]

I am totally confused. I just saw this wondering if it was an error sending $192 they want an $89 fee is this what you guys are talking about ? I do not want to send it at that rate do i just hold on to it do you guys think this will get back to normal again soon?

I looked around. People were paying $89 and more. Sometimes fees are cheaper if you do transfers off hours in the US, middle of the night.