Bitcoin Price Tracking & Discussion -- 2025

[Arky]

Sorry to sound so pessimistic, but you wish.

Fink gets to choose the technologies/the blockchains with most upside, like Bitcoin and Ethereum, and create products based on them, as they please. If they want an ETF approved, they'll pay the lobbyists and get it done. They have the resources to do what's in the best interest of their investors.

If you disagree, Dubai will certainly be happy to grant you a passport. But thinking that Blackrock doesn't get to make the rules, to me, is just delusional.

Oh, I get it. They want centralization just like the corrupt system they represent and come from. It's going to be a little harder to do with crypto, IMO- besides people that are in it for the money, there's a huge portion that's in it for the self sovereignty and freedom from the legacy system. Decentralized/no KYC exchanges, privacy coins, hardware wallets- it's going to be hard to outlaw/regulate all of that..

Part of the problem is those who just give in and bend the knee....

[Igor_1965]

Lark Davis covered some of this in one his latest videos. Someone mentioned in the comments this may be only for the ultra rich but if it passes, you can bet it will trickle down to the little guy eventually.

As it stands now, if I'm reading it correctly, 15% is the going rate for long term capital gains. This is good for up to $518K. That's not too terribly bad (if you're going to play their game). I'm going to check with my CPA but I believe this is accurate.

https://smartasset.com/taxes/2021-capital-gains-tax-rates

As for the Samurai guys, man, they are just software devs. Coders. Someone needs to take a stand against the out-of-control DOJ and what they are doing to crypto. The USA gets more tryannical by the day....

Blackrock is talking like they want to get a little more involved in crypto and Fink is pushing for a crypto system with digital ID.... Uh, no. They can join the party but they don't get to make the rules...

Sorry to sound so pessimistic, but you wish.

Fink gets to choose the technologies/the blockchains with most upside, like Bitcoin and Ethereum, and create products based on them, as they please. If they want an ETF approved, they'll pay the lobbyists and get it done. They have the resources to do what's in the best interest of their investors.

If you disagree, Dubai will certainly be happy to grant you a passport. But thinking that Blackrock doesn't get to make the rules, to me, is just delusional.

[Arky]

Samouria Wallet, a bitcoin mixer, founders arrested. Biden wants an unrealized capital gains tax of 25% and a 45% capital gains tax. Taxing unrealized gains forces you to sell to pay your taxes. A lot of crypto people from the US will move to Dubai or Puerto Rico. I'll move if unrealized is passed. IRS is now using AI to look into our bank accounts without a warrant.

All that said, I agree with homie in that the only thing that will stop this run is WWIII. The rest are hiccups.

Lark Davis covered some of this in one his latest videos. Someone mentioned in the comments this may be only for the ultra rich but if it passes, you can bet it will trickle down to the little guy eventually.

As it stands now, if I'm reading it correctly, 15% is the going rate for long term capital gains. This is good for up to $518K. That's not too terribly bad (if you're going to play their game). I'm going to check with my CPA but I believe this is accurate.

https://smartasset.com/taxes/2021-capital-gains-tax-rates

As for the Samurai guys, man, they are just software devs. Coders. Someone needs to take a stand against the out-of-control DOJ and what they are doing to crypto. The USA gets more tryannical by the day....

Blackrock is talking like they want to get a little more involved in crypto and Fink is pushing for a crypto system with digital ID.... Uh, no. They can join the party but they don't get to make the rules...

[raiders72001]

Samouria Wallet, a bitcoin mixer, founders arrested. Biden wants an unrealized capital gains tax of 25% and a 45% capital gains tax. Taxing unrealized gains forces you to sell to pay your taxes. A lot of crypto people from the US will move to Dubai or Puerto Rico. I'll move if unrealized is passed. IRS is now using AI to look into our bank accounts without a warrant.

All that said, I agree with homie in that the only thing that will stop this run is WWIII. The rest are hiccups.

[homie1975]

provided no reply from Iran on the Isfahan attack then we should find a BTC floor at ~$65K and then it is up to Big Tech earnings starting this week to get us a a leg up from here or perhaps the other way

[captrobey]

The withdrawal method can really be anything as the book is sending it back to you and has to deal with the fees. Most books make you cashout the same way you deposited, so many times you won't have an option but some allow you to withdraw a different method from your deposit.

The big thing is the deposit method when sending to books and Bitcoin is rarely, if ever, the cheapest/fastest option for that.

I am good with LC then as it seemed to be pretty decent only used that twice now. I remember a ways back you guys on here were talking about Shiba i think it was so for the hell of it i deposited like $200 and i didnt catch it when it really skyrocketed but i did make like a $400 profit i think it was it was .

[JAKEPEAVY21]

I thought it was an error at first so logged out and in then came on here looking for answers glad i did. Yea i transferred that to Litcoin and went through lightning fast way better price same procedure sending it so i guess i will use that for a withdraw assuming it is allowed

The withdrawal method can really be anything as the book is sending it back to you and has to deal with the fees. Most books make you cashout the same way you deposited, so many times you won't have an option but some allow you to withdraw a different method from your deposit.

The big thing is the deposit method when sending to books and Bitcoin is rarely, if ever, the cheapest/fastest option for that.

[captrobey]

I looked around. People were paying $89 and more. Sometimes fees are cheaper if you do transfers off hours in the US, middle of the night.

I use Litecoin like 90% of the time when depositing offshore...dirt cheap fees and very fast

I thought it was an error at first so logged out and in then came on here looking for answers glad i did. Yea i transferred that to Litcoin and went through lightning fast way better price same procedure sending it so i guess i will use that for a withdraw assuming it is allowed

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Ok so i converted it to Litcoin i will try that and it looks way better with fees

I use Litecoin like 90% of the time when depositing offshore...dirt cheap fees and very fast

[raiders72001]

I am totally confused. I just saw this wondering if it was an error sending $192 they want an $89 fee is this what you guys are talking about ? I do not want to send it at that rate do i just hold on to it do you guys think this will get back to normal again soon?

I looked around. People were paying $89 and more. Sometimes fees are cheaper if you do transfers off hours in the US, middle of the night.

[captrobey]

Ok so i converted it to Litcoin i will try that and it looks way better with fees

[captrobey]

This seems to be manipulation of fees to me.

No way regular demand has pushed them so high.

Worrying if miners do have a way to do that I think.


Just have to wait and see Cappy. With no one being able to send low amounts you'd think demand would drop fast, and hence fees too.

that is just bitcoin being bitcoin..... a big ponzi for the ultra rich dont worry 100k soon

Skipper, hope all is well...

A grizzled vet gambler like yourself should know to use Litecoin or Bitcoin Cash for offshore deposits/payouts...fees way lower and faster as well

Been moving 3K at a time from Wagerweb which Bitcoin is the only crypto option to another wallet. The fees are around 15 dollars sending that 3K to another book, I thought I had it rough lol.

I have to check again to see if it got better just got back from shopping. I am not great with this stuff but i use it to be able to avoid my card from getting blocked.

[raiders72001]

Been moving 3K at a time from Wagerweb which Bitcoin is the only crypto option to another wallet. The fees are around 15 dollars sending that 3K to another book, I thought I had it rough lol.

Around $15 is what most are paying. https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison...onfees.html#3y

[DonnieBrasco23]

I am totally confused. I just saw this wondering if it was an error sending $192 they want an $89 fee is this what you guys are talking about ? I do not want to send it at that rate do i just hold on to it do you guys think this will get back to normal again soon?

Been moving 3K at a time from Wagerweb which Bitcoin is the only crypto option to another wallet. The fees are around 15 dollars sending that 3K to another book, I thought I had it rough lol.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

I am totally confused. I just saw this wondering if it was an error sending $192 they want an $89 fee is this what you guys are talking about ? I do not want to send it at that rate do i just hold on to it do you guys think this will get back to normal again soon?

Skipper, hope all is well...

A grizzled vet gambler like yourself should know to use Litecoin or Bitcoin Cash for offshore deposits/payouts...fees way lower and faster as well

[ChuckyTheGoat]

This seems to be manipulation of fees to me.

No way regular demand has pushed them so high.

Worrying if miners do have a way to do that I think.


Just have to wait and see Cappy. With no one being able to send low amounts you'd think demand would drop fast, and hence fees too.

Movin on up. 65,300.

Respect to Biggie, I know he's knowledgeable. Just not sure I've seen anyone else share that opinion.

[biggie12]

I am totally confused. I just saw this wondering if it was an error sending $192 they want an $89 fee is this what you guys are talking about ? I do not want to send it at that rate do i just hold on to it do you guys think this will get back to normal again soon?

that is just bitcoin being bitcoin..... a big ponzi for the ultra rich dont worry 100k soon

[Optional]

I am totally confused. I just saw this wondering if it was an error sending $192 they want an $89 fee is this what you guys are talking about ? I do not want to send it at that rate do i just hold on to it do you guys think this will get back to normal again soon?

This seems to be manipulation of fees to me.

No way regular demand has pushed them so high.

Worrying if miners do have a way to do that I think.


Just have to wait and see Cappy. With no one being able to send low amounts you'd think demand would drop fast, and hence fees too.

[captrobey]

I am totally confused. I just saw this wondering if it was an error sending $192 they want an $89 fee is this what you guys are talking about ? I do not want to send it at that rate do i just hold on to it do you guys think this will get back to normal again soon?

[JAKEPEAVY21]

The USA is knee deep in all this. I fear the worst. Have a plan.....

Having said that, there was a nice bounce back for BTC....

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The halving might just be another day in crypto. They say it takes a while (months?) for the change to effect the market....

Hold on for dear life