Sign in if hammering Pirates -134

**Alamorich** · 04-10-06, 01:52 AM

Definately leaning towards the Pirates my friend...will let you know tomorrow for sure.

**juuso** · 04-10-06, 04:23 AM

I like it. Zach Duke on the mound and Dodgers played a double header last night in Philly and now have to play an early day game. Odalis looked awful in season debut giving up nine hits and seven earned runs in three innings. Pirates manager is an ex-Dodger, so he should know Perez' pitching. Will be taking the -1.5 though. Don't like anything under -110 in baseball and there is better value in +172 for the rl imo.

**imgv94** · 04-10-06, 04:59 AM

Originally posted by juuso

I like it. Zach Duke on the mound and Dodgers played a double header last night in Philly and now have to play an early day game. Will be taking the -1.5 though. Don't like anything under -110 in baseball and there is better value in +172 for the rl imo.

You know I am kind of new to baseball and I keep
hearing different things. I have been told by many
that RL's are sucker bets. I respect you alot Juuso
I feel lost with betting baseball.

Well GL Hopefully when I wake up the Pirates will be
up 6-0. I need this one.

**juuso** · 04-10-06, 05:18 AM

Some people might consider them sucker bets, but mathematically it is not so. The lines are derived from the ml odds and have pretty much the same bookie hold %, sometimes 1% worse, sometimes even better. Depending on the line movement. Many people just considers them risky, especially with home team because one less inning to bat for the home team if leading after top of the 9th and only possibility of covering with a homer with men on base if the game is tied after 8th. I play mostly small doggies, but like to mix some alt. rl's for home dogs and especially rl's for small home favorites in my bets. Have done well with them the last couple of seasons. Just have to pick your spots. Winning one out of two will give pretty much the same return than winning straight moneyline with a home team.

**bigboydan** · 04-10-06, 09:44 AM

the pirates are a little high for me to play in this game, so i'm passing on it myself.

good luck

**Alamorich** · 04-10-06, 10:26 AM

I am hammering....used to be Odalis fan but I think he's lost had as good as once was. I don't worry about the price unless it's over -150.

**Alamorich** · 04-10-06, 10:38 AM

Runlines

Yesterday there were 3 games decided by one run and I know I had 3 dogs win SU. I also had two favorites that lost SU so that's 8 games where if I had played the favorite and spotted the other team 1.5 I would have lost. I didn't play every game but if someone wants to do some research I think they will see that spotting the other team 1.5 yesterday was a bad way to go. Yesterday's results were typical of what you will see on any given Saturday or Sunday. Some one run games, some dogs winning straight up and of course some favorites blowing out the inferior team. If your gonna spot the other team 1.5 runs you need to have a lot of confidence that your gonna have a blow out. In baseball predicting a lopsided game is hard to do....hard enough to pick a winner as it is.

**Illusion** · 04-10-06, 11:50 AM

I just hammered the Pirates -1.5 +173. Good luck everybody

**bigboydan** · 04-10-06, 11:55 AM

i'm not a runline type of guy at all ILL. although,with that dodger lineup today i can see your logic.

**moses millsap** · 04-10-06, 12:40 PM

I'm on the Pirates, but hopefully Duke can be more controlled than in his start against Milwaukee where he pitched poorly, but escaped with not that much damage.

**moses millsap** · 04-10-06, 12:41 PM

LOL, as I typed that, a 2 run shot on an 0-2 pitch.

**Illusion** · 04-10-06, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by OWNED

LOL, as I typed that, a 2 run shot on an 0-2 pitch.

Just our luck.

**moses millsap** · 04-10-06, 12:47 PM

Duke getting hammered.

**Illusion** · 04-10-06, 01:05 PM

You know it's bad when he walks the pitcher. It's 3-0 still.

**moses millsap** · 04-10-06, 01:10 PM

Time to move onto the next game, lol. This one is over boys.

**Illusion** · 04-10-06, 01:10 PM

5-0 now...Duke needs to get pulled.

**Alamorich** · 04-10-06, 01:25 PM

Guess the Duke came out a little nervous today....still early even though its 5-0

**moses millsap** · 04-10-06, 01:41 PM

Bases loaded for Bay. Knowing the Pirates, expect a double play here.

**moses millsap** · 04-10-06, 01:42 PM

LOL, double play on first pitch by Bay. He's stranded 4 runners already. Reminds me of his clutch hitting in Milwaukee when they were staging that 9th inning comeback the other day

**Illusion** · 04-10-06, 02:01 PM

This game is over...7-0.

**moses millsap** · 04-10-06, 02:02 PM

Chalk up another wire to wire beating for the Bucs

**freebie** · 04-10-06, 02:12 PM

7-0 top 6th
Zach duke is not doing crap. Just letting LA hammer him left and right.
heavy chalk getting kill.

**presley177** · 04-10-06, 02:45 PM

the Pirates should've never been favored in this game..

**Illusion** · 04-10-06, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by presley177

the Pirates should've never been favored in this game..

There's no about that. I'll be shocked if they are favored in their next game.

**imgv94** · 04-10-06, 05:38 PM

I will turn this bad streak around. Presley is right the Pirates should of
never been favored. I am so sorry if someone followed this because of
me. But I have been listening to the wrong people and I will turn this around.

I see alot of potential betting baseball. I just know I am not going
to lay this much wood ever again. -134 fvck that.

Again I am sorry to anyone who bet the Pirates, I jinxed it.
But I have been in this situation before and gotten out of it.

**Alamorich** · 04-10-06, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by imgv94

I will turn this bad streak around. Presley is right the Pirates should of
never been favored. I am so sorry if someone followed this because of
me. But I have been listening to the wrong people and I will turn this around.

I see alot of potential betting baseball. I just know I am not going
to lay this much wood ever again. -134 fvck that.

Again I am sorry to anyone who bet the Pirates, I jinxed it.
But I have been in this situation before and gotten out of it.

Don't blame yourself IMG.

**imgv94** · 04-10-06, 07:06 PM

When watching the game, I realized I made a terrible wager when they
mentioned dodgers are 17-5 @ pnc park. now 18-5 probably 19-5 tomorrow

**moses millsap** · 04-10-06, 07:07 PM

Originally posted by imgv94

When watching the game, I realized I made a terrible wager when they
mentioned dodgers are 17-5 @ pnc park. now 18-5 probably 19-5 tomorrow

PNC is actually a great park for Duke's pitching strengths, but he hasn't shown any type of command and control in his first two starts out of the gate this year.

**Alamorich** · 04-10-06, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by imgv94

When watching the game, I realized I made a terrible wager when they
mentioned dodgers are 17-5 @ pnc park. now 18-5 probably 19-5 tomorrow

I think everybody has a good record at PNC park...Pirates have sucked for a few years. We just ****** up playing them...I thought they would be focused since it was opening day for them and they had just won their first game the night before.

**imgv94** · 04-10-06, 07:18 PM

I am thinkin abt the dodgers tomorrow. small though. anyone elsE?